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Jan 6, 2013 3:38 AM CST Living
hi tony
Jan 6, 2013 3:44 AM CST Living
curly28
curly28curly28Perth, Western Australia Australia53 Threads 5,450 Posts
Evening Tones wave grin
Jan 6, 2013 3:46 AM CST Living
curly28
curly28curly28Perth, Western Australia Australia53 Threads 5,450 Posts
Whatever the reasons people take their life it is very very sad sad flower sad comfort
Jan 6, 2013 3:53 AM CST Living
tonyxf
tonyxftonyxfwerribee, Victoria Australia2 Threads 4,525 Posts
Hi Rob Curls Serene and everyone else hope you all good in 2013
Jan 6, 2013 4:04 AM CST Living
curly28
curly28curly28Perth, Western Australia Australia53 Threads 5,450 Posts
tonyxf: Hi Rob Curls Serene and everyone else hope you all good in 2013


You too Tones and Happy Stralia day whoohoo! laugh australia australia australia australia
Jan 6, 2013 5:22 PM CST Living
Nature123
Nature123Nature123Australia, Queensland Australia68 Threads 2 Polls 739 Posts
My neighbour said the lady had a drug problem and was staying with family up here,they had a fight and she took off and well we know the rest,

He and another lady I know told some of the stories of people that have came up here to end their life.

I feel for the police and rescue workers, havering to clean up the mess, the detective I spoke to had tears in his eyes,

I don't know I myself have complained about doctors and other people in that kind of work,
Saying that they seem like they don't care, I think they have to have some sort of barrier up so that they can do their job,

We all do it tough from time to time,but life is great and there is so much more to live for.
Jan 7, 2013 7:56 AM CST Living
Blizzard14u
Blizzard14uBlizzard14uGosnells, Western Australia Australia67 Threads 2 Polls 1,430 Posts
Yes that was after Bobs no child shall live in poverty speech! But you can guarantee their dads will? He left that bit out, as the family courts were still handing out full custody to women when it came to kids? And some still do? I have been burnt twice! By the CSA, 19 years hard labour nothing to show for it? I would have got less if I ran over the first EX? But she died two years ago, RIP Kim, she ruined my life and my relationship with my oldest daughter! She poisoned the kids mind against me and there is nothing I can say or do too change that now? I have tried to reach out to her, even the second EX has as she knows the full story! But nothing! She is too much like her mum! Its all to hard lets have a bong! At least I have my second kid different mother with me! That too has been a hassle in the past! The kid just came out with I am going to live with you or I will live on the streets! Not in my life time! She wont live on any street! Since then the second EX has become all nice? Long story! don’t want to bore you people?
professor doh cheers
Jan 7, 2013 3:19 PM CST Living
LiLee
LiLeeLiLeeIpswich, Queensland Australia53 Threads 1,760 Posts
So sad sad flower

I guess this site is a testimony to those strong peeps who have endured hard times, marriage break ups, finacial hardship, estrangment from kids etc......and carried on. thumbs up

No offence to anyone affected by suicide, I cannot begin to understand how you feel, but I do think it takes more strength and courage to carry on in the face of life. I have a friend who died about 6 years ago from a perscription drug overdose. While it wasn't put down to suicide, I do have my suspicions as she was very depressed. The sad thing is her husband and children miss her at every important event in their lives and she is missing so much like the birth of her granddaughter and her son going off to UNI.

It also seems men are more likely to be successful at suicide than women, as I guess they come from a different emotional perspective. I could be wrong.... being female and all

I am not one to ever carry out a suicide, however I have contenplated it during really down times. I guess I'm lucky to have that little optimistic voice in my head that says...hold on, tommorrow still holds hope. thumbs up

I guess drugs really do dull our own survival instints.blues

Stay strong

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Jan 7, 2013 6:08 PM CST Living
Nature123
Nature123Nature123Australia, Queensland Australia68 Threads 2 Polls 739 Posts
I really don't know,I known one person that took their own life,a male, and one that tried and his wife and kids came home and found him,I ran into her about 4 mths after it happened and the effect it had on her,she just broke down,and I didn't know what to say,just hugged her,
Then we were living in a small town for a few years and in 12 mths there was 4 teens that took their own lives.

I think everybody walks a fine line,
But it is only the strong ones that don't do any thing,they just battle on.
Jan 9, 2013 3:36 AM CST Living
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
Nature123: I think everybody walks a fine line,
But it is only the strong ones that don't do any thing,they just battle on.


After a few months into a relationship, she told me she had attempted suicide but her dog led people to her in the bush. As much as she couldn't help wanting it so much, it was only months later she was thankful for the dog finding her.

We talked about it a fair bit. We actually discussed the strength it would take to actually go through with it.

It is surprising how strong the survival instincts really are in all animals. Even the simple act of sticking a pin in yourself does take a lot of willpower. Okay, there are probably those that will just do it to try and prove me wrong but it will be a very consciense effort to do it in a single go.
Mar 11, 2013 3:05 AM CST Living
conduit
conduitconduitmelbourne, Victoria Australia2 Threads 236 Posts
wash2u: After a few months into a relationship, she told me she had attempted suicide but her dog led people to her in the bush. As much as she couldn't help wanting it so much, it was only months later she was thankful for the dog finding her.

We talked about it a fair bit. We actually discussed the strength it would take to actually go through with it.

It is surprising how strong the survival instincts really are in all animals. Even the simple act of sticking a pin in yourself does take a lot of willpower. Okay, there are probably those that will just do it to try and prove me wrong but it will be a very consciense effort to do it in a single go.




It's what I always believed in--- "strong will power" will pull one through hard times.
Mar 11, 2013 3:13 AM CST Living
mickyj63
mickyj63mickyj63adelaide, South Australia Australia101 Threads 2,362 Posts
Nature123: I think everybody walks a fine line,
But it is only the strong ones that don't do any thing,they just battle on.


Yep I'm with you Sister wave
Mar 12, 2013 2:54 AM CST Living
benidorm
benidormbenidormwellington, Wellington New Zealand58 Threads 1 Polls 499 Posts
I do struggle with loss and have thru experince learned to turn myself of to the world around me.It has done me know favours and feel this has impacted on my mood bigtime.Isolation is a big thing for me and keeping in good spirits is essential,keeping bust puching myself is the only way for me to keep out of the darkness.Writing things down that bother me and and actively trying to find solutions or accepting little can be done but my best.
Mar 12, 2013 6:21 AM CST Living
Halv0
Halv0Halv0Marcoola, Queensland Australia19 Threads 766 Posts
Nature123: I do agree, they take all their worries with them,and leave all the family members to suffer.
But who knows why she done, most likely no one ever will


Mental illness in any form can cause all sorts of illogical reasonings. But hey, I've had a taste of depression, and it is easy to see this as an acceptable alternative to enduring whatever is perceived to be so painful in one's life.

Selfish, perhaps. If she had some sort of terminal illness, then perhaps she was thinking of sparing her loved ones the trauma of slowly watching her fade away, or sparing them the exorbitant medical costs that would rob her family of their home, and savings.

Perhaps she thought this would provide financial security for her family. (life insurance)

Probably, this was the only way that she could guarantee that she would not be rescued to live on in dispair since we don't allow euthanasia in this country.

No we would rather prolong the suffering of those who just don't want to suffer any more.

Sad yes, should she be judged, no...... Only God know why she did what she did. And that is enough for me....
Mar 12, 2013 6:41 AM CST Living
jem1964
jem1964jem1964Foothills of Dandenongs, Victoria Australia30 Threads 1 Polls 2,441 Posts
serene56: Rob while I'm not going to argue with you on a sensitive issue such as this, I strongly feel that choosing to suicide is in many cases a little more than feelings of self-doubt, lack of self-worth and confusion?

Many people who suicide have mental illness of some description, be it diagnosed or not.


I once nearly committed suicide. I had the pills on the table in front of me.

What stopped me?
The fact that I wasnt sure if I had enough time before Mum and Dad came home to actually be dead because I know I didnt want to live life as a vegetable as I had witnessed others do.

What caused me to contemplate suicide?

Simply it was my specialist at the time lying to me. A stupid lie that I challenged him on, and, promptly went and asked the pharmacist for the truth.
Why was this such a make or break for me?
Because I placed my life in this man's hand and he could not be truthful, and if he lied about this, what else was he lying about.

So sometimes it is not just mental illness, sometimes there can be a lot more behind someones choice.
I may have been depressed, but for me it was the total betrayal of exactly the person I should have been able trust implicitly as I placed my life in his hands.

Am I glad I didnt go through with it. Yes, very glad as life, although it has been a challenge, it has been very worthwhile.

I am also very glad I didnt know what my GP told me years later when I told him what I had lined up to take, as he told me I would have been gone in around 30 mins.

Never think suicide is the "easy" way out, you dont know how much torture the person has gone through in making the decision.
Mar 12, 2013 4:50 PM CST Living
curly28
curly28curly28Perth, Western Australia Australia53 Threads 5,450 Posts
jem1964: I once nearly committed suicide. I had the pills on the table in front of me.

What stopped me?
The fact that I wasnt sure if I had enough time before Mum and Dad came home to actually be dead because I know I didnt want to live life as a vegetable as I had witnessed others do.

What caused me to contemplate suicide?

Simply it was my specialist at the time lying to me. A stupid lie that I challenged him on, and, promptly went and asked the pharmacist for the truth.
Why was this such a make or break for me?
Because I placed my life in this man's hand and he could not be truthful, and if he lied about this, what else was he lying about.

So sometimes it is not just mental illness, sometimes there can be a lot more behind someones choice.
I may have been depressed, but for me it was the total betrayal of exactly the person I should have been able trust implicitly as I placed my life in his hands.

Am I glad I didnt go through with it. Yes, very glad as life, although it has been a challenge, it has been very worthwhile.

I am also very glad I didnt know what my GP told me years later when I told him what I had lined up to take, as he told me I would have been gone in around 30 mins.

Never think suicide is the "easy" way out, you dont know how much torture the person has gone through in making the decision.


Gee jem that is very sad and very glad you didn't go through with it hug comfort as tough as life can be at times it's worth every breath we take bouquet
Mar 13, 2013 2:58 AM CST Living
Obscuritan
ObscuritanObscuritanMelbourne, Victoria Australia37 Threads 3 Polls 1,284 Posts
jem1964: I once nearly committed suicide. I had the pills on the table in front of me.

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Never think suicide is the "easy" way out, you dont know how much torture the person has gone through in making the decision.


Hi Jem, thanks for sharing this with us. A tough time you went through. I agree suicide isn't an easy way out as it must take a huge amount of courage to do.

Someone I love once tried to commit suicide; fortunately didn,t succeed, but the aftermath and pain is still with me.
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