Another shootinbg spree in the US ( Archived) (118)

What you are doing is inserting yet another red herring into the discussion. This is what you are referring to in your link:

"Q: Is it true that 85 percent of all the children killed by guns in the world are killed in the United States?

A: No. This statistic, misused by the husband of former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, refers to a study of 23 high-income countries in 2003 that made up less than 14 percent of the world’s population. A coauthor of that study says the percentage of children killed in the world who lived in the U.S. is “well, well, well under 85 percent." This is quoted from the link.

The bottom line is, should the United States, an affluent, modern, Western culture be comparing itself to poor, undeveloped Third World nations? I don't think so; it is not a true or logical comparison.

Statistically, other modern, developed, affluent nations do not have the deaths that the US has because of firearms. Period. Comparing ourselves to Third World contries is a moot point. We are not a backward 3rd world nation.

tHIS IS ONLY YOUR POINT OF VIEW.

Well factcheck is the most reliable source other then the news media.I sure wouldn't trust their figures.

It is not my point of view that the other developed, affluent, modern nations have less gun violence than the US. All statistics from all sources back up the fact that gun violence in the US is far more prevalent than in other comparable countries. It is not my opinion that comparing a third world country to a first world country is illogical: logic dictates that such a comparison is illogical, that there is no argument based in reason for such a comparison. It is not 'just' my opinion that the US is not a 3rd world, advanced, modern nation: again, logic and reason dictate that the US would be included within the description of modern, advanced, first world nations. So, what is it that is just my opinion?????

Ok, what country is egual in size that has a fairly similar government. Maybe Australia? ok, Australia is a bit bigger and it has a far less population than the USA. It goes mush deeper than that as well and the simple fact that both countries have very different motivations of what they have chosen to be. You can take Canada and compare it to the USA as well, This is probably the closest in size but the population of Canada is close to one tenth the size of the USA. Taking these differences alone shows how much of a difference in managing one country to the next is going to be very different, thus, what works in Canada may not work in the USA at all. Now factor in the way each Country developed and what it is today. You simply can not pick and choose in this way that you wish. If you are going to scrutinize the type of country in one way to get the numbers in your favour than you must also look at other very pertinent and active components in what make up each of these countries. Quite frankly for a dating site we are asking ourselves to fix the problems in a nation that has been shaped over so many years and extremely different histories. You of course may choose to ignore what I say but if you really start reading about this gun issue which is now under the microscope you will see that many experts and also many that are one sided giving their opinions have so many new views that become more complex every day. Furthermore you and I have no idea how long we have before a new agenda will take a precedence above all this and everyone will move the focus to that issue. Whatever we do here in the USA we do not want to make things worse or have a all out civil war due to this one agenda. we have so many other active agendas that we could end up lower than those 3rd world countries that you wish to dismiss in comparison. Take something like a nationwide depression, yes, worse than what it is now, way worse. That would take our minds to new places. Or what about a major war. That would also take us all to a very different place. It is dangerous to blow thing out of proportion and than implement a answer to all those problems. Are we that clever to solve the nation or worlds problems on this thread or site? if so we will become the next people to go into the history books and you would have to have a profile foto. LOL....but I hope you are able to move yourself to a different mindset and see what it is you are asking or even asking of a whole nation. DO YOU THINK THEY ARE LISTENING? I doubt it, and if so that they would use what we have been discussing. ok. that is just something to look at. just a different perspective of why it is so hard to compare all countries than get selective without really getting selective. I see it hard to compare thee USA to many of the countries that are so much smaller and possibly easier to put in a state of control at the point that many have suggested without a very big big repercussion.
Logic is far more than taking one element and not looking at all the rest of the factors that exist.
breathe.
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Well written. not sure if i totally agree but well written none the less.

That's a fair reply, it was just some thoughts on this current topic. It will be interesting if any measures are taken in the next few years and how it does affect us in the short and long stay.
Thanks for your reply Jim.
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