Federal Health Minister Tanya Plibersek says boys aged 12 and 13 will now be given three doses of th (20)
ObscuritanMelbourne, Victoria Australia37 Threads 3 Polls 1,284 PostsHmm, I hadn't read this when I started that poll about trusting scientists. I will read some of those links in a moment, but I'm getting the vibe that you don't agree with the vaccinations?
It does seem odd that the world's 2nd most litigatous country approved the vaccine above the #1 litigation country (Aust). No, happens all the time.
In Australia, there is a tendency for us to do our own trials before releasing anything as it has been shown that some countries do rush through things without really looking at all of the side affects which may not be apparent for quite some years.
We have had a number of Class Actions in recent years over breast* implants and pace-makers that have been approved by overseas medical authorities and it does make some think about going ahead with new things.
And the most classic of all "progressive introductions" is the Cane Toad.
The measles and the polio vaccine have saved so many lives over the years and a very few do react to the vaccine. And so many refuse the treatment today for their children because 1 in so many millions reacts to the vaccine. But so many lives saved in the meantime.
The Wonder Drug "Thamilamide" for Morning Sickness was handed out no end to every woman who so much as felt sick. Any child born with a birth defect of any kind had the luck to be able to sue the manufactureres, even after drug administrations approved it. Although rightly so after it was establshed there were problems. Shame the "Approvers" are not caught up in that before it was banned.
I grew up in the "Silicon Valley" era of Valium where a few of the family friends were prescribed it for their "problems." When my doctor prescribed it for my back problems, I thought "Here comes comatose."
It has helped me so much relaxing that my back got better. And then I stopped as soon as I could bear the pain.
I was presribed the wonder drugs universally named "Antibiotics" when just a small child. Had them over many years and this stunted my growth a bit. Got to thank them for stopping at 6'3"
But it took nearly 40 years for medical authorities to realise that antibiotics do have some side affects. The one well recognised one is that teeth are affected. Seems that antibiotics in large doses does impact on tooth enamel.
In Australia, there is a tendency for us to do our own trials before releasing anything as it has been shown that some countries do rush through things without really looking at all of the side affects which may not be apparent for quite some years.
We have had a number of Class Actions in recent years over breast* implants and pace-makers that have been approved by overseas medical authorities and it does make some think about going ahead with new things.
And the most classic of all "progressive introductions" is the Cane Toad.
The measles and the polio vaccine have saved so many lives over the years and a very few do react to the vaccine. And so many refuse the treatment today for their children because 1 in so many millions reacts to the vaccine. But so many lives saved in the meantime.
The Wonder Drug "Thamilamide" for Morning Sickness was handed out no end to every woman who so much as felt sick. Any child born with a birth defect of any kind had the luck to be able to sue the manufactureres, even after drug administrations approved it. Although rightly so after it was establshed there were problems. Shame the "Approvers" are not caught up in that before it was banned.
I grew up in the "Silicon Valley" era of Valium where a few of the family friends were prescribed it for their "problems." When my doctor prescribed it for my back problems, I thought "Here comes comatose."
It has helped me so much relaxing that my back got better. And then I stopped as soon as I could bear the pain.I was presribed the wonder drugs universally named "Antibiotics" when just a small child. Had them over many years and this stunted my growth a bit. Got to thank them for stopping at 6'3"
But it took nearly 40 years for medical authorities to realise that antibiotics do have some side affects. The one well recognised one is that teeth are affected. Seems that antibiotics in large doses does impact on tooth enamel.
Hands off our boys!
Sounds like a violation to me, who has the right to make these decisions?!
Sounds like a violation to me, who has the right to make these decisions?!
i clearly listed what it was aimed at
"Vaccine description
Target disease human papillomavirus (Types 16, 18, 6, and 11)"!
"Vaccine description
Target disease human papillomavirus (Types 16, 18, 6, and 11)"!
try reading that
meanwhile, it seems more likely to my mind, the hospitals are full of cancer patients because the food chain is contaminated with harmful chemicals more likely than any other reason.
I've already stated in the past i don't accept the ama is a respectful source for medical science, to the contrary, they are a small political mainly christian lobby group that does not represent the majority of the electors the minister is supposed to be listening to, the majority of the electors who as our servant she paid to listen to. She is also i understand responsible for putting the lyes and utter rubbish on my cig packets, also along with other is taxing my non taxable veterans income support, a thief.
The ama does not accept the nothing of interdependent arising, which is without doubt the nature all matter in the whole universe, in short they are a bunch of nitwits fretting away millions and millions of dollars while engaging in fabrications after fabrication at the expensive of the whole community, scumbags
In relation to this matter:
I mean this i monitored and recorded and Lamas sent in another student i worked with, in relation to the following matters, i carefully over years monitored the whole process in 1986 five duds sat around in San Francisco and dreamed up HIV Aids
In relation to that matter I filled a report relating to recordings known to been made over number of years by senior members of our parliament and HHDL, a report addressed to the President of the Australian Senate and HHDL.
I mean this i monitored and recorded and Lamas sent in another student i worked with, in relation to the following matters, i carefully over years monitored the whole process in 1986 five duds sat around in San Francisco and dreamed up HIV Aids
In relation to that matter I filled a report relating to recordings known to been made over number of years by senior members of our parliament and HHDL, a report addressed to the President of the Australian Senate and HHDL.
serene56: Hands off our boys!
Sounds like a violation to me, who has the right to make these decisions?!
Sounds like a violation to me, who has the right to make these decisions?!
Big money making exercise for the big pharmaceutical corporations.
The bubonic plague decimated Europe in the middle ages but left the Jewish community virtually untouched. Why? Vaccination?
No. Sanitation, hygiene. And they also separated the sick from the healthy.
Blizzard14u: Why cant we concentrate on spending the money on a cure rather than a prevention?
Prevention is better than the cure. But vaccination is not prevention. I have a mate who was vaccinated against whooping cough and he got it and was sick as a dog. Vaccination is an unnatural way to force immunity to develop. Proper immunity is not only in the blood, but is multi-level. It starts with the skin, the mucus membrane, etc, the first line of defense. Vaccination completely bypasses them.
Sanitation and hygiene, and nutritious food are a much better way. I remember, in my childhood cancer was unknown.
revealer24: Prevention is better than the cure. But vaccination is not prevention. I have a mate who was vaccinated against whooping cough and he got it and was sick as a dog. Vaccination is an unnatural way to force immunity to develop. Proper immunity is not only in the blood, but is multi-level. It starts with the skin, the mucus membrane, etc, the first line of defense. Vaccination completely bypasses them.
Sanitation and hygiene, and nutritious food are a much better way. I remember, in my childhood cancer was unknown.
Sanitation and hygiene, and nutritious food are a much better way. I remember, in my childhood cancer was unknown.
Your a goose if you think that cancer is a recent phenomenon, it was first known to have been recorded on an Egyptian papyri written between 3000-1500BC and the oldest specimen found was in the remains of a female skull dating to the bronze age (1900-1600BC) now unless your childhood was 5000 years ago i would reconsider your statement.
robplum: http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/g/gardasil/gardasil_pi.pdf
try reading that
meanwhile, it seems more likely to my mind, the hospitals are full of cancer patients because the food chain is contaminated with harmful chemicals more likely than any other reason.
I've already stated in the past i don't accept the ama is a respectful source for medical science, to the contrary, they are a small political mainly christian lobby group that does not represent the majority of the electors the minister is supposed to be listening to, the majority of the electors who as our servant she paid to listen to. She is also i understand responsible for putting the lyes and utter rubbish on my cig packets, also along with other is taxing my non taxable veterans income support, a thief.
The ama does not accept the nothing of interdependent arising, which is without doubt the nature all matter in the whole universe, in short they are a bunch of nitwits fretting away millions and millions of dollars while engaging in fabrications after fabrication at the expensive of the whole community, scumbags
try reading that
meanwhile, it seems more likely to my mind, the hospitals are full of cancer patients because the food chain is contaminated with harmful chemicals more likely than any other reason.
I've already stated in the past i don't accept the ama is a respectful source for medical science, to the contrary, they are a small political mainly christian lobby group that does not represent the majority of the electors the minister is supposed to be listening to, the majority of the electors who as our servant she paid to listen to. She is also i understand responsible for putting the lyes and utter rubbish on my cig packets, also along with other is taxing my non taxable veterans income support, a thief.
The ama does not accept the nothing of interdependent arising, which is without doubt the nature all matter in the whole universe, in short they are a bunch of nitwits fretting away millions and millions of dollars while engaging in fabrications after fabrication at the expensive of the whole community, scumbags
Hospitals are full of people with cancer, there's a sweeping statement Rob, How many of those cancers are smoking related? You're a smoker aren't you Rob? You get all high and mighty about the government introducing HPV vaccines for males in Australia which have the potential to save many lives and then you say the government is "a bunch of nitwits fretting away millions and millions of dollars while engaging in fabrications after fabrication at the expensive of the whole community".
That's a bit of a hippocrytical stance to take don't you think? when as of june 11 2001, smoking related illness cost Australia 12.7 billion dollars a year in health care, lost productivity and other costs. I don't smoke and don't you think i object to my taxes being used to fund treatment for smokers who ignore current medical advice and puff away because it's their god given right, fine if you want to cough up a lung, go ahead just don't expect me to pay for it. HPV vaccine prevents disease, it's a pity they don't have one for smokers.
well i'm nearly seventy and still smoke and intend continuing, why don't you check out why the DVA withdrew the advice they gave out about smoking, if you actually read the links that were posted you might come to realize that no other country has vaccinated its while young male population to stop the possibility of an infected person entering the country and slipping through health checks which could cause an infection in an Australian female, which is what Plibersek herself stated as the reasoning behind vaccinating 900.000 young males in Australia
your initial to your view, and so am i
your initial to your view, and so am i
wash2u:
The Wonder Drug "Thamilamide" for Morning Sickness was handed out no end to every woman who so much as felt sick. Any child born with a birth defect of any kind had the luck to be able to sue the manufactureres, even after drug administrations approved it. e is that teeth are affected.
The Wonder Drug "Thamilamide" for Morning Sickness was handed out no end to every woman who so much as felt sick. Any child born with a birth defect of any kind had the luck to be able to sue the manufactureres, even after drug administrations approved it. e is that teeth are affected.
Gee I hope this was meant to be sarcastic Wash. Cause the thought of anyone being born with out their limbs because of the negligence of others to be LUCKY just cause they received a token pay off is ludicrous and insulting, to be frank.
LiLee: Thankfully there is at least one sane response in this thread. Vacinations save lives. Anyone who thinks otherwise should be sent back in time to witness the pain and suffering of a slow death caused by one of the diseases that we are fortunate to be vacinated against.
What we should all be shocked about is the fact that more and more parents these days are placing theirs and other children at risk by not vacinating their kids.
What we should all be shocked about is the fact that more and more parents these days are placing theirs and other children at risk by not vacinating their kids.
LiLee: Thankfully there is at least one sane response in this thread. Vacinations save lives. Anyone who thinks otherwise should be sent back in time to witness the pain and suffering of a slow death caused by one of the diseases that we are fortunate to be vacinated against.
What we should all be shocked about is the fact that more and more parents these days are placing theirs and other children at risk by not vacinating their kids.
What we should all be shocked about is the fact that more and more parents these days are placing theirs and other children at risk by not vacinating their kids.
At last a light in the darkness.
LiLee: Gee I hope this was meant to be sarcastic Wash. Cause the thought of anyone being born with out their limbs because of the negligence of others to be LUCKY just cause they received a token pay off is ludicrous and insulting, to be frank.
yeah you just keep ignoring what is been said about it as clearly the three of you either ignored the concerns expressed in the post above
e.g.
But the organization notes its own research, which has uncovered dozens of deaths and many more cases of serious health problems following use of the drug.
It reported earlier that between Sept. 1, 2010, and Sept. 15, 2011, there were 26 deaths reported from adverse reactions, as well as “seizures, paralysis, blindness, pancreatitis, speech problems, short term memory loss and Guillain-Barre Syndome.
For example, one healthy 14-year-old was vaccinated with Gardasil, then developed numbness and tingling in extremities, fatigue, urinary tract infections, ovarian cyst, and seizures.
“The patient had had upwards of 150 seizures following her third shot in June 2008. During her seizures she stopped breathing for periods of 30 to 40 seconds,” the report said.
She died.
e.g.
But the organization notes its own research, which has uncovered dozens of deaths and many more cases of serious health problems following use of the drug.
It reported earlier that between Sept. 1, 2010, and Sept. 15, 2011, there were 26 deaths reported from adverse reactions, as well as “seizures, paralysis, blindness, pancreatitis, speech problems, short term memory loss and Guillain-Barre Syndome.
For example, one healthy 14-year-old was vaccinated with Gardasil, then developed numbness and tingling in extremities, fatigue, urinary tract infections, ovarian cyst, and seizures.
“The patient had had upwards of 150 seizures following her third shot in June 2008. During her seizures she stopped breathing for periods of 30 to 40 seconds,” the report said.
She died.
justjim63: I'm not welcome to my opinion, I'm entitled to it.
As of Feb 2009 40 million doses of gardasil had been distributed world wide.
Out of 23 million doses given there were 12,424 reported adverse events, the majority of which were of a minor nature, the death rate was reported at 2.6 cases per 100,000 doses.
Compare the deaths from Penicillin related anaphylaxis in the U.S which stand at 500-1000 deaths per year a total of 75% of all anaphalaxis related deaths.
Ref. JAMA Internal Medicine, Jan 08 2001 Vol 161,number1.
The reason i include the info on penicillin is to show that no medication is without it's risks, however if the benefits outweigh the risks then why not use them for the greater good of the majority of people? Peanut butter is readily available in our supermarkets but it has been known to induce fatal anaphalaxis in some people, I don't see people piqueting the supermarkets to get rid of peanut butter. Life has risks, don't be scared to live in the light simply because you're comfortable in the dark.
As of Feb 2009 40 million doses of gardasil had been distributed world wide.
Out of 23 million doses given there were 12,424 reported adverse events, the majority of which were of a minor nature, the death rate was reported at 2.6 cases per 100,000 doses.
Compare the deaths from Penicillin related anaphylaxis in the U.S which stand at 500-1000 deaths per year a total of 75% of all anaphalaxis related deaths.
Ref. JAMA Internal Medicine, Jan 08 2001 Vol 161,number1.
The reason i include the info on penicillin is to show that no medication is without it's risks, however if the benefits outweigh the risks then why not use them for the greater good of the majority of people? Peanut butter is readily available in our supermarkets but it has been known to induce fatal anaphalaxis in some people, I don't see people piqueting the supermarkets to get rid of peanut butter. Life has risks, don't be scared to live in the light simply because you're comfortable in the dark.
i have welcomed your opinions, not that i would agree with most of them i have welcomed your opinions, rude insulting or other
your opinion or mine is just an opinion that's all, a persons opinion and it is not necessary so that you are entitled to post, that right is a discretion the OP has
yes but then what's covered up
An example the vaccinations given to the troops that went to the second Iraq war, the massive problems they apparently suffer great effort has gone into covering up.
I had 27 vaccinations in total for service in South Vitnam
An example the vaccinations given to the troops that went to the second Iraq war, the massive problems they apparently suffer great effort has gone into covering up.
I had 27 vaccinations in total for service in South Vitnam
robplum: yes but then what's covered up
An example the vaccinations given to the troops that went to the second Iraq war, the massive problems they apparently suffer great effort has gone into covering up.
I had 27 vaccinations in total for service in South Vitnam
An example the vaccinations given to the troops that went to the second Iraq war, the massive problems they apparently suffer great effort has gone into covering up.
I had 27 vaccinations in total for service in South Vitnam
All aimed at what you might get for being a naughty boy.
But so many had "vaccinations" for the boredom, fear, whatever and have had so many problems since.
Australia has always been slow in accepting what other countries have already approved. And they have been correct in some cases as some symptons take years to develop.
I suppose the real question from the start of this thread is "Have we really looked at the real impacts of taking this or that vaccine? May not be today, may be in 100 years that the real impact is felt."
Statistics prove that a very high percentage of those that get cancer have had exposure to cigarettes in one form or another. But it is also true that 99.9% of cancer victims have also been exposed to electricity at some time in their life.
is common practice in both aussie and kiwi armies, all the bossters we got in vietnam were provided by the aussies
depends what country your going to what type vaccinations your given, the number included jabs received from the time you joined, been posted to a combat brigade group, we were constantly in state of readiness for deployment which included the usual jabs + on appointment SV those jabs required for that threater
depends what country your going to what type vaccinations your given, the number included jabs received from the time you joined, been posted to a combat brigade group, we were constantly in state of readiness for deployment which included the usual jabs + on appointment SV those jabs required for that threater
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