Smenkare: Wait a minute; if a woman expects it to be as it was before is it wrong for the man to expect it also. I fully believe in equal rights but equal should mean no more double standard. I don't have a problem with treating a woman with respect but I do have a problem with a double standard.
Wow! I am stunned that a man who I assume is reasonably or better so, educated, can possibly NOT see what I am saying.
Equality does not mean we want to be treated like one of your blokey mates. We have gone past the stage where we wish to have only ONE option....to marry and stay home and make it all nice for a husband who was the head of the household and the only one allowed to have paid work.
Bless my dear father, who would be 90 if he were still here. When most girls left home earlier than boys as 'education is wasted on them as they will only marry and raise children'....he insisted that all his daughters were also well-educated as he felt that even if we chose to marry and have children (not compulsory in my family) the girls would be the ones to help the kids with homework etc. and had to have a reasonable education.
Dad worshipped the ground my mother walked on. They had a great marriage and raised 9 good citizens all with good careers. None of these children has an antiquated view of relationships. The women are treated with the utmost respect and expect little less. The men are pleased the women are doing what they wish in life...as well as contributing to the mortgage.
Who wants to marry a helpless female, with little education or ideas of her own? Who wants to be one? Who wants to have inequality in their relationship? That boat sailed a LONG time ago.
Being a lady does NOT mean we are not committed to our relationships and families. There is no double standard. A man treats me as a lady and I treat him as a gentleman. Simple.
pisceslady7: Wow! I am stunned that a man who I assume is reasonably or better so, educated, can possibly NOT see what I am saying.
Equality does not mean we want to be treated like one of your blokey mates. We have gone past the stage where we wish to have only ONE option....to marry and stay home and make it all nice for a husband who was the head of the household and the only one allowed to have paid work.
Bless my dear father, who would be 90 if he were still here. When most girls left home earlier than boys as 'education is wasted on them as they will only marry and raise children'....he insisted that all his daughters were also well-educated as he felt that even if we chose to marry and have children (not compulsory in my family) the girls would be the ones to help the kids with homework etc. and had to have a reasonable education.
Dad worshipped the ground my mother walked on. They had a great marriage and raised 9 good citizens all with good careers. None of these children has an antiquated view of relationships. The women are treated with the utmost respect and expect little less. The men are pleased the women are doing what they wish in life...as well as contributing to the mortgage.
Who wants to marry a helpless female, with little education or ideas of her own? Who wants to be one? Who wants to have inequality in their relationship? That boat sailed a LONG time ago.
Being a lady does NOT mean we are not committed to our relationships and families. There is no double standard. A man treats me as a lady and I treat him as a gentleman. Simple.
I'm not sure you understand where I am coming from so in an effort to get on the same page here goes.
I have been single for twenty-nine years and without a companion for the last fourteen of those years. Have not shared a residence during those twenty-nine years just to make things clear. Recently I have joined a number of these "Internet Dating Sights" and repeatedly see the statement "I want to be treated like a lady" which brings to mind an incident which occurred some fifteen years ago and the ensuing controversy.
While loading equipment into my pickup I tore the tendons in my left arm which required surgery to repair. I asked my companion at the time if she would take care of my pets and livestock. Her reply was "No I'm a lady and expect to be treated like one". I did not see what feeding and watering two dogs, a parrot, a dozen or so chickens and a couple of cows had to do with being treated like a lady but I was wrong.
calmikeGlenning Valley, New South Wales Australia5 Posts
calmikeGlenning Valley, New South Wales Australia5 posts
Hey Smenkare ! Dont give the pisceslady7 a hard time just because you once had a friend who was a selfish a**hole. pisceslady7 is arguing tooth & nail here, but I suspect mostly due to the fact that "lady" is part of here name, & it's hit a nerve. Along those lines I shall persue forum posts containing "calm" &/or "mike". FYI I would gladly take care of the animals'
calmike: Hey Smenkare ! Dont give the pisceslady7 a hard time just because you once had a friend who was a selfish a**hole. pisceslady7 is arguing tooth & nail here, but I suspect mostly due to the fact that "lady" is part of here name, & it's hit a nerve. Along those lines I shall persue forum posts containing "calm" &/or "mike". FYI I would gladly take care of the animals'
My apologies to pisceslady7. I had gotten the impression she though all women should be treated as royalty. I was brought up knowing how to treat a lady like a lady and it does sometimes seem a bit unfair. Have even met some who resent some of the aspects of being treated like a lady. It is a bit of a crap shoot. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
Smenkare: I'm not sure you understand where I am coming from so in an effort to get on the same page here goes......
......While loading equipment into my pickup I tore the tendons in my left arm which required surgery to repair. I asked my companion at the time if she would take care of my pets and livestock. Her reply was "No I'm a lady and expect to be treated like one". I did not see what feeding and watering two dogs, a parrot, a dozen or so chickens and a couple of cows had to do with being treated like a lady but I was wrong.
I am very sorry that she gave you that reaction and I definitely would not. To me a lady is also caring and compassionate and helps others when she can....especially the man in her life.
That was ONE woman...please do not judge us all on one person who seems a tad selfish, or maybe just not committed.
Thank you for the explanation. A lady is dignified yet caring. She likes to be both independent in many ways and yet rely on a wonderful man to lean on and cherish and give the same to the gentleman in her life.
I do hope this clears some things up. You last post HAS helped me to understand where you are coming from....thank you.
calmike: Hey Smenkare ! Dont give the pisceslady7 a hard time just because you once had a friend who was a selfish a**hole. pisceslady7 is arguing tooth & nail here, but I suspect mostly due to the fact that "lady" is part of here name, & it's hit a nerve. Along those lines I shall persue forum posts containing "calm" &/or "mike". FYI I would gladly take care of the animals'
Thanks Mike, but I feel we have cleared it up. I did not have all the facts behind the hurt...and most people speak angrily from a place of hurt. My frustration stemmed, NOT from my name here, but from what I saw as an antiquated view against which women have fought for generations. I just felt he didn't GET it. However, his experiences are different from mine and he also has a right to his opinion.
Smenkare: Not fault. The way a lady is treated is defined by culture and most often is rooted in the dominant religion of that culture. It is generally taught in finishing schools so there is a definite set of rules.
"Culture, religion, finishing school" What the hidey-ho???? Holy crap dude! your living in a different century, could be where your problems with the ladies starts...
calmikeGlenning Valley, New South Wales Australia5 Posts
calmikeGlenning Valley, New South Wales Australia5 posts
Hello its me back again for one more final word I am very glad to see some people getting along better now its good sometimes to agree to disagree so take care and always be forthright you are all marvellous people i am sure
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Wow! I am stunned that a man who I assume is reasonably or better so, educated, can possibly NOT see what I am saying.
Equality does not mean we want to be treated like one of your blokey mates. We have gone past the stage where we wish to have only ONE option....to marry and stay home and make it all nice for a husband who was the head of the household and the only one allowed to have paid work.
Bless my dear father, who would be 90 if he were still here. When most girls left home earlier than boys as 'education is wasted on them as they will only marry and raise children'....he insisted that all his daughters were also well-educated as he felt that even if we chose to marry and have children (not compulsory in my family) the girls would be the ones to help the kids with homework etc. and had to have a reasonable education.
Dad worshipped the ground my mother walked on. They had a great marriage and raised 9 good citizens all with good careers. None of these children has an antiquated view of relationships. The women are treated with the utmost respect and expect little less. The men are pleased the women are doing what they wish in life...as well as contributing to the mortgage.
Who wants to marry a helpless female, with little education or ideas of her own? Who wants to be one? Who wants to have inequality in their relationship? That boat sailed a LONG time ago.
Being a lady does NOT mean we are not committed to our relationships and families. There is no double standard. A man treats me as a lady and I treat him as a gentleman. Simple.