food stamps (20)

Mar 28, 2013 5:56 AM CST food stamps
Tomcats2
Tomcats2Tomcats2Norwich, Norfolk, England UK81 Threads 9 Polls 2,249 Posts
In the daily Mail today an article stated that food stamps would be introduced in certain circumstances to unemployed or those on social welfare what do you think?
Mar 28, 2013 6:10 AM CST food stamps
HIM_666
HIM_666HIM_666Broadstairs, Kent, England UK2 Threads 1 Polls 145 Posts
Tomcats2: In the daily Mail today an article stated that food stamps would be introduced in certain circumstances to unemployed or those on social welfare what do you think?


I have had furious arguments with management over this.
My argument in particular over Fresh and tinned food is this :
If all the Supermarket chains can afford to operate such a system,2 for one BoGoF and 3 for 2 offers etc, they can afford to reduce the cost of the food they sell in the first place. -- They should all be forced BY LAW to not sell food with only families in mind. The price paid should be per ITEM or by weight and price per SINGLE packet in the case of Fruit & Vegetables. - Many people living on their own and pensioners in the same circumstance are being forced to buy more than they need in order to get the price reduction.
Mar 28, 2013 7:47 AM CST food stamps
Maisie
MaisieMaisielarnaca, Larnaca Cyprus4 Threads 616 Posts
Tomcats2: In the daily Mail today an article stated that food stamps would be introduced in certain circumstances to unemployed or those on social welfare what do you think?


In principle it sounds a good idea, but how long before people start 'selling' them for cash.
Mar 28, 2013 8:19 AM CST food stamps
Tomcats2
Tomcats2Tomcats2Norwich, Norfolk, England UK81 Threads 9 Polls 2,249 Posts
Maisie: In principle it sounds a good idea, but how long before people start 'selling' them for cash.
one way to stop people selling their stapm would be to have their name on the stamp and having to show id to match the name on the stamp
Mar 29, 2013 5:41 PM CST food stamps
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
I think its an infringement of human rights.

People can budget how they see fit.

Some people may grow their own veg, but need to spend more on clothes because they're not average sized enough to buy from cheap stores, or charity shops.

Others may need more food, but make their own clothes.

Yet others might prefer to spend money on heating, but eat little, like pensioners.

I'm guessing it would also restrict consumer options to large supermarkets which strikes me as being a "I'll scratch your back, if you'll scratch mine" event for government and big business.

I'm guessing its unlikely that small businesses, like the type which deliver boxes of organic veg, will be able to afford the administration involved in a food stamp currency.

My daughter and granddaughter were entitled to vouchers for veg because of low income and youth, but there was no where local to use them. It would have been a three hour trip to get £3 worth of veg and a loss of three hours earnings for me. Besides, I'd burn off more calories collecting the veg than either of them would get out of eating them. roll eyes

I'm going to go as far as to say its a shameless scam. Substance misuse is blamed for the necessity, even though a tiny majority of those living in poverty are users. Neither the substance misusers, nor the poor have the resources for their voice to be heard, so they have to accept the crusts thrown at them. The government and big business is quids in and everyone is lead to believe they're taxes are being well spent.

How about the government gives up its perks and subsidies before we take away the basic human rights of the poorest in society?

And another thing, its humiliating enough being poor without being forced to announce it publicly in the supermarket by having to use a different currency to everyone else. But then that's good for the government too, as they do so like a scapegoat.

I wonder if people of different races, or religions will get different colour food stamps to differentiate the persecutions more accurately. Mine'll have a yellow star and my daughter would get a wee pic of a thieving gypo to boot.

I wonder if food stamps will get you Halal, or Kosher food?

I wonder if food stamps will cover different dietary needs, like allergies, or whether people, including children, will have to suffer skin reactions, belly ache, throwing up and asthma.

Oooh, I could go on.

mumbling
Mar 30, 2013 2:52 AM CST food stamps
Sailfree1
Sailfree1Sailfree1Vilters-Wangs, St Gallen Switzerland16 Threads 663 Posts
Tomcats2: In the daily Mail today an article stated that food stamps would be introduced in certain circumstances to unemployed or those on social welfare what do you think?

Seems to me TC that the Uk are turning towards
the USA and their policies.
Food stamps hmm for whom? The immigrants that
get every damn things already.
The foreigners are already abusing the system
and getting away with it. No to Food Stamps!!
Give the people the British enough to live on
and forget bank rolling the critters that are
destroying the lifestyle of the real English folks.
Its just shocking and sickening to see the real poverty
in the UK nowadays.
The Enlish are a proud race of people and do not need the
ridicule of Food Stamps to survive!
The Gov should be shot the lot of them.
Seen a prog on TV the other night poverty in the UK and it
was just too sad to see young men and women not surviving
but merely existing!
Those who can help don't its simple.
doh doh doh very mad frustrated
Mar 30, 2013 3:33 AM CST food stamps
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
Sailfree1: Seems to me TC that the Uk are turning towards
the USA and their policies.
Food stamps hmm for whom? The immigrants that
get every damn things already.
The foreigners are already abusing the system
and getting away with it. No to Food Stamps!!
Give the people the British enough to live on
and forget bank rolling the critters that are
destroying the lifestyle of the real English folks.
Its just shocking and sickening to see the real poverty
in the UK nowadays.
The Enlish are a proud race of people and do not need the
ridicule of Food Stamps to survive!
The Gov should be shot the lot of them.
Seen a prog on TV the other night poverty in the UK and it
was just too sad to see young men and women not surviving
but merely existing!
Those who can help don't its simple.

Real English folks? rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

You don't know much about Britain then, Sailfree?

That and you're a shameless, inhumane, ignorant bigot.

It makes me want to vomit hearing posts like this.
Mar 30, 2013 4:24 AM CST food stamps
Sailfree1
Sailfree1Sailfree1Vilters-Wangs, St Gallen Switzerland16 Threads 663 Posts
jac379: Real English folks?

You don't know much about Britain then, Sailfree?

That and you're a shameless, inhumane, ignorant bigot.

It makes me want to vomit hearing posts like this.


Care to elaborate on your allegations
Mar 30, 2013 4:43 AM CST food stamps
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
Sailfree1: Seems to me TC that the Uk are turning towards
the USA and their policies.
Food stamps hmm for whom? The immigrants that
get every damn things already.
The foreigners are already abusing the system
and getting away with it. No to Food Stamps!!
Give the people the British enough to live on
and forget bank rolling the critters that are
destroying the lifestyle of the real English folks.
Its just shocking and sickening to see the real poverty
in the UK nowadays.
The Enlish are a proud race of people and do not need the
ridicule of Food Stamps to survive!
The Gov should be shot the lot of them.
Seen a prog on TV the other night poverty in the UK and it
was just too sad to see young men and women not surviving
but merely existing!
Those who can help don't its simple.

There is more than one country in the UK/British Isles, ergo we are not all English.

The people of the British Isles are historically made up of immigrants from all over the world.

The people of the British Isles are currently made up of immigrants from all over the world.

To suggest that only certain groups, races, or nationalities are involved in Benefit fraud is xenophobia.

To suggest that immigrants are entitled to more benefits, or special treatment in some way is propaganda.

The benefits system in the UK is designed to keep people in poverty because it benefits the government and big businesses - more tax revenue is gained from big business even with tax credit payments, than would be obtained from paying people a living wage as a living wage would mean most people were in low tax brackets. You have the added bonus of being able to disparage those on low income as the reason for poor economy, rather than anything the government has done.

Its easier to blame the poor who have no voice, or power, than tackle tax fraud by the rich, or government worker's perks and bonuses, as these people have the resources and power (knowledge and money) to fight their corner.

Food stamps are just part of the scam you're already buying into with your xenophobic clap trap.
Mar 30, 2013 4:46 AM CST food stamps
Tomcats2
Tomcats2Tomcats2Norwich, Norfolk, England UK81 Threads 9 Polls 2,249 Posts
I am totaly against these stamps i work for a major retail chain that like horsemeatwink

we have customers that have been using theses stamps for years most are embaressed by having to use them, most of the peopl that use them that i talk to are regular customers people who have seen their earnings disappear through know fault of their own because of the economic mess that they did not start, people unemployed that cant find jobs because they dont exist.

sail your wrong a report last week from an independent source and by the government indicate that less then 3% of immigrants in the uk are on any handouts at all

of coures there are some who use the sytstem such a people who spend the vouchers on food and milk but then spend their money from the dole on booze and ciggies but few and far between im pleased to say


The conservatives want to devide people that is what they are all about be it with extra bedroom tax or food stamps calling people skivers and strivers even if strivers have been laid off work because of their miss management of the economy the blame lies with them and no i dont vote labour ,
Tomcats2: In the daily Mail today an article stated that food stamps would be introduced in certain circumstances to unemployed or those on social welfare what do you think?
Mar 30, 2013 6:08 AM CST food stamps
mickeyscouse
mickeyscousemickeyscouseLondon, Greater London, England UK27 Threads 1 Polls 2,065 Posts
Another disaster dreamt up by the fat cats of Westminster as they digested the finest foods bought with the MP shopping allowance paid for by the taxpayer doh

Even if people had to produce photographic ID then they would just shop for the person who is purchasing the £50 worth of vouchers for £30.
Mar 30, 2013 6:26 AM CST food stamps
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
mickeyscouse: Another disaster dreamt up by the fat cats of Westminster as they digested the finest foods bought with the MP shopping allowance paid for by the taxpayer

Even if people had to produce photographic ID then they would just shop for the person who is purchasing the £50 worth of vouchers for £30.

thumbs up

Its such a relief to know that so many people understand how the most disadvantaged are abused by the most advantaged.
Mar 30, 2013 7:08 AM CST food stamps
Sailfree1
Sailfree1Sailfree1Vilters-Wangs, St Gallen Switzerland16 Threads 663 Posts
Sailfree1: Seems to me TC that the Uk are turning towards
the USA and their policies.
Food stamps hmm for whom? The immigrants that
get every damn things already.
The foreigners are already abusing the system
and getting away with it. No to Food Stamps!!
Give the people the British enough to live on
and forget bank rolling the critters that are
destroying the lifestyle of the real English folks.
Its just shocking and sickening to see the real poverty
in the UK nowadays.
The Enlish are a proud race of people and do not need the
ridicule of Food Stamps to survive!
The Gov should be shot the lot of them.
Seen a prog on TV the other night poverty in the UK and it
was just too sad to see young men and women not surviving
but merely existing!
Those who can help don't its simple.

jac379: There is more than one country in the UK/British Isles, ergo we are not all English.

The benefits system in the UK is designed to keep people in poverty because it benefits the government and big businesses - more tax revenue is gained from big business even with tax credit payments, than would be obtained from paying people a living wage as a living wage would mean most people were in low tax brackets. You have the added bonus of being able to disparage those on low income as the reason for poor economy, rather than anything the government has done.

Its easier to blame the poor who have no voice, or power, than tackle tax fraud by the rich, or government worker's perks and bonuses, as these people have the resources and power (knowledge and money) to fight their corner.

Food stamps are just part of the scam you're already buying into with your xenophobic clap trap.
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I would draw your attention
to your contradictions!
It may be easier for folks to understand
if you just clearly say afraid of foreigners!
rathar than portraying your diction.
If you had in fact read the comment then you
may have understood.
As for claptrap as you state well I leave that
to your goodself.
Mar 30, 2013 7:12 AM CST food stamps
gussi
gussigussiVilters-Wangs, St Gallen Switzerland12 Threads 2 Polls 4,032 Posts
Jac what is xenophobic about saying No to Food stamps and what is xenophobic about suggesting certain groups, races, or nationalities are involved in Benefit fraud when in certain Areas of the Country it can be seen on the streets and is no hidden fact. I am sure Sail knows as much about the british isles as you do (maybe more)and i am sure she knows more about the religous immigrants than you have had hot dinners so my advice is be careful when spouting your contradictory Posts suggesting other participants of These Forums are bigots etc. there is a saying: Engage brain before hitting the send button.
Mar 30, 2013 7:14 AM CST food stamps
Sailfree1
Sailfree1Sailfree1Vilters-Wangs, St Gallen Switzerland16 Threads 663 Posts
TC
Perhaps that is if you believe all you
read and hear through the media.
3% now that is a very low figure.
Whatever will be will be.
This is a forum for opinions and not for
name calling. Its a place for discussion
and debate.
I did not know there was a food stamp prog
in the UK. Thank you for enlightening me on
that althought it is of no value to me.
I do only hope that some will gain from it.
Happy Easter TC cheers
Mar 30, 2013 8:13 AM CST food stamps
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
@Sail and Gussi...

Government and big business creating profit and advantages for themselves does not contradict the concept that government and big business has taken from those who are most needy.

Saying you're against food stamps does not justify the xenophobic comments you have made about foreigners.

You claim Sail knows more about the British Isles than I do, yet she seems to think we are all English. Forgive me if her comments about Britain appear to lack a certain credibility.

The religious immigrants? Is that the Hindu, Catholic, Christian's of other denominations, Buddhist, Muslim, Jews, Rastafarians, Sihks, Taoists, who Gussi?
Mar 30, 2013 8:53 AM CST food stamps
soflanding
soflandingsoflandinglondon, Greater London, England UK100 Posts
id say food stamps would be pretty embarassing to have to use, also youd get lumped in with any bad kind of person abusing system by doing so. Is shocking such samps are needed.
Mar 30, 2013 9:04 AM CST food stamps
gussi
gussigussiVilters-Wangs, St Gallen Switzerland12 Threads 2 Polls 4,032 Posts
jac379: @Sail and Gussi...

Government and big business creating profit and advantages for themselves does not contradict the concept that government and big business has taken from those who are most needy.

Saying you're against food stamps does not justify the xenophobic comments you have made about foreigners.

You claim Sail knows more about the British Isles than I do, yet she seems to think we are all English. Forgive me if her comments about Britain appear to lack a certain credibility.

The religious immigrants? Is that the Hindu, Catholic, Christian's of other denominations, Buddhist, Muslim, Jews, Rastafarians, Sihks, Taoists, who Gussi?


I think, judging by your diction in previous Posts you can deduce which ones i am referring to. Xenophobic, me, no way but you should be and alot of the residents in the UK are of which they should be.

I didnt Claim sail knew more, i said she knows as much about it (maybe more) which does not constitute your comments about credibility. If you read your previous contradicting postings, you may like to think about your credibility before offering suggestions or critisms of others.
Apr 7, 2013 2:09 PM CST food stamps
Tomcats2: In the daily Mail today an article stated that food stamps would be introduced in certain circumstances to unemployed or those on social welfare what do you think?


why not just increase wages, pensions, provide more jobs, lower the cost of living expenses....
Apr 8, 2013 6:40 AM CST food stamps
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Tomcats2: In the daily Mail today an article stated that food stamps would be introduced in certain circumstances to unemployed or those on social welfare what do you think?


I think that benefits should be increased on the condition that the unemployed perform community service and/or work a few hours in local small and medium-sized businesses... Not as free labour for Tesco and other big companies that need no help in destroying our high streets.

One way of securing work the unemployed would be to ban the import of certain basic finished goods - kettles, toasters, utensils etc.. - set up assembly sheds on the edge of each major town and use these to provide a more generous safety net, free from idleness, which is financed by the sale of the goods they make.

The problem isn't that individual benefits are particularly generous in this country, the problem is the sheer amount of people on thes benefits. We have the "chav" underclass stemming from Thatcher's good work of destroying the working class in the 80's, in addition to the now enormous migrant underclass encouraged to live and sponge here by a generation of White middle class traitors and moral posturing reality-phobes.
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