Nelson Mandella (38)
curly28: Just watched the news yes it does look grim he has slipped back into a serious condition
problem is they always get better before they get worse
its a shame he cant live forever
he is one inspirational man
curly28: Just watched the news yes it does look grim he has slipped back into a serious condition
I do think a bit about his harsh imprisonment for all those 27 years for what he believed in. For him to live to this age and make a difference is a miracle.
It must be realised that he was a decendant of the Thembu royal family. Although initially committed to non-violent protest, in association with the South African Communist Party he co-founded the militant Umkhonto we Sizwe (MK) in 1961, leading a bombing campaign against government targets. In 1962 he was arrested, convicted of sabotage and conspiracy to overthrow the government, and sentenced to life imprisonment in the Rivonia Trial.
The Thembu at the time were not the most populous native people of the South Africa region. The Zulu's were the most endemic people of the country. At the time, they did support the Govt of SA policy of arphatide. They did not like the subservient tribes or the emmigrating tribes having a say in how their country should be run.
I do admire the man for what he has done for his tribe, his country and world predudious as a whole. I just do not support the violent actions of his followers.
wash2u: I do think a bit about his harsh imprisonment for all those 27 years for what he believed in. For him to live to this age and make a difference is a miracle.
It must be realised that he was a decendant of the Thembu royal family. Although initially committed to non-violent protest, in association with the South African Communist Party he co-founded the militant Umkhonto we Sizwe (MK) in 1961, leading a bombing campaign against government targets. In 1962 he was arrested, convicted of sabotage and conspiracy to overthrow the government, and sentenced to life imprisonment in the Rivonia Trial.
The Thembu at the time were not the most populous native people of the South Africa region. The Zulu's were the most endemic people of the country. At the time, they did support the Govt of SA policy of arphatide. They did not like the subservient tribes or the emmigrating tribes having a say in how their country should be run.
I do admire the man for what he has done for his tribe, his country and world predudious as a whole. I just do not support the violent actions of his followers.
It must be realised that he was a decendant of the Thembu royal family. Although initially committed to non-violent protest, in association with the South African Communist Party he co-founded the militant Umkhonto we Sizwe (MK) in 1961, leading a bombing campaign against government targets. In 1962 he was arrested, convicted of sabotage and conspiracy to overthrow the government, and sentenced to life imprisonment in the Rivonia Trial.
The Thembu at the time were not the most populous native people of the South Africa region. The Zulu's were the most endemic people of the country. At the time, they did support the Govt of SA policy of arphatide. They did not like the subservient tribes or the emmigrating tribes having a say in how their country should be run.
I do admire the man for what he has done for his tribe, his country and world predudious as a whole. I just do not support the violent actions of his followers.
Trouble is with such a huge following you are going to get violence along with peaceful followers
He was wrongly imprisoned but still after all those years he still came out a leader for his people
curly28: Trouble is with such a huge following you are going to get violence along with peaceful followers
He was wrongly imprisoned but still after all those years he still came out a leader for his people
He was wrongly imprisoned but still after all those years he still came out a leader for his people
Someone leading a bombing campaign against government targets is hardly innocent.
He was caught and was happy to be a martyr for his people. His treatment in prison, like so many native prisoners, was horrendous and the length of his sentence was far beyond what others got.
Latest I heard they have Mandela on life support - why? he is 94yo.
Maybe it was his choice
but honestly, what is the point, chances of him recovering are very, very slim and he must be very very weak?JMHO but when it's time, it's time.
I did hear that in his culture they don't even talk about him not being here while he is still alive? Positive way of thinking I guess.
Hope he goes peacefully and is not in pain.
Newlife08: Latest I heard they have Mandela on life support - why? he is 94yo.
Maybe it was his choice but honestly, what is the point, chances of him recovering are very, very slim and he must be very very weak?
JMHO but when it's time, it's time.
I did hear that in his culture they don't even talk about him not being here while he is still alive? Positive way of thinking I guess.
Hope he goes peacefully and is not in pain.
Maybe it was his choice but honestly, what is the point, chances of him recovering are very, very slim and he must be very very weak?
JMHO but when it's time, it's time.
I did hear that in his culture they don't even talk about him not being here while he is still alive? Positive way of thinking I guess.
Hope he goes peacefully and is not in pain.
He'd be drugged and most likely non respondent he'd be pain free just a matter of time at 94 an that ill in hospital they wouldn't allow him to suffer.
will be very sad when he goes.
did you know he founded the south african springbocks team
did you know he founded the south african springbocks team
asha69: will be very sad when he goes. did you know he founded the south african springbocks team
And a truly magnificent human being
asha69: will be very sad when he goes. did you know he founded the south african springbocks team
Is that a footy team
Just a matter of time now it seems..
curly28: Is that a footy team
its the rugby team silly
asha69: its the rugby team silly
i once saw a doco on nelson and how he got the rugby union guys to pull together, they were nothing before that.
good doco too
good doco too
asha69: i once saw a doco on nelson and how he got the rugby union guys to pull together, they were nothing before that.good doco too
Just heard one the news that Nelson Mandella's update according to his daughter he has greatly improved and they are now looking at him being able to go home , that is an amazing recovery especially with lung problems at his age. Although saying that my friend is in the UK ATM with her mom she is 95 yrs old too and has had lung complications in and out of hospital at times and still going strong as can be considering her age , this is my friends 2nd visit to the UK to see her ailing mother in just over a year thinking it would be her last time to be with her , sadly though she has now got the beginnings of dementia & starting to affect her quality of her life
curly28: Just heard one the news that Nelson Mandella's update according to his daughter he has greatly improved and they are now looking at him being able to go home , that is an amazing recovery especially with lung problems at his age. Although saying that my friend is in the UK ATM with her mom she is 95 yrs old too and has had lung complications in and out of hospital at times and still going strong as can be considering her age , this is my friends 2nd visit to the UK to see her ailing mother in just over a year thinking it would be her last time to be with her , sadly though she has now got the beginnings of dementia & starting to affect her quality of her life
happy birthday nelson
asha69: happy birthday nelson
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Just watched the news yes it does look grim he has slipped back into a serious condition