HHO gas (26)
AdalstefReykjavik, Northwest Iceland94 Threads 896 PostsHas anyone here installed HHO (hydogen) unit in a car?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvlyBhcAzo4
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Adalstef: Has anyone here installed HHO (hydogen) unit in a car?
better take that "O" away from the Gas if you love your life,and mix it in as needed in the CARB.!------ This thread is Archived ------
there is quite a bit of Stuff in the WWW!
Not sure how the Authorities will react if you's started to store Hydrogen in your Garage,or installed an Electrolyzer there!
Stuff is extremely flammable and explodes in nearly any proportion with Air/Oxygen!
Not sure how the Authorities will react if you's started to store Hydrogen in your Garage,or installed an Electrolyzer there!
Stuff is extremely flammable and explodes in nearly any proportion with Air/Oxygen!
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Conrad73: there is quite a bit of Stuff in the WWW!
Not sure how the Authorities will react if you's started to store Hydrogen in your Garage,or installed an Electrolyzer there!
Stuff is extremely flammable and explodes in nearly any proportion with Air/Oxygen!
Not sure how the Authorities will react if you's started to store Hydrogen in your Garage,or installed an Electrolyzer there!
Stuff is extremely flammable and explodes in nearly any proportion with Air/Oxygen!
Its not stored or contained, the car produces it while the engine is running and burns it directly
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Adalstef: Its not stored or contained, the car produces it while the engine is running and burns it directly
Google Stanley Meyer!
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Conrad73: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Meyer%27s_water_fuel_cell
Google Stanley Meyer!
Google Stanley Meyer!
A common misunderstanding about this system is that the car is not meant to run solely on the gas, its an add on to the fuel, to give it better and cleaner burn.
I think you Swiss guys need to look into this system to perfect it
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HHO for cars is a fraud
HHO is water (H2O)
'HHO' systems work by injecting a measure of water into the cylinder with the fuel.
THEY claim it partly fuels your car - false. all the HHO (H2O) comes out the exhaust as steam.
Water injection in aviation engines worked by cooling the top of the cylinder, allowing higher compression and a higher implied Octane rating for the fuel, meaning a more powerful burn and netter fuel economy. At the temperature levels and compression levels motor vehicle engines run at, its totally wasted. All it does is confuse the car's ECU
In many cases that could actually worsen fuel efficiency.
One other effect of HHO - the water flashes to steam and cleans the cylinder walls. Means the inside of the engine looks lovely and shiny if you remove the spark plug
By cleaning off the walls it reduces the protection the oil offers to the engine. Expect a far shorter engine life until the compression drops right off and power is lost for good.
HHO is water (H2O)
'HHO' systems work by injecting a measure of water into the cylinder with the fuel.
THEY claim it partly fuels your car - false. all the HHO (H2O) comes out the exhaust as steam.
Water injection in aviation engines worked by cooling the top of the cylinder, allowing higher compression and a higher implied Octane rating for the fuel, meaning a more powerful burn and netter fuel economy. At the temperature levels and compression levels motor vehicle engines run at, its totally wasted. All it does is confuse the car's ECU
In many cases that could actually worsen fuel efficiency.
One other effect of HHO - the water flashes to steam and cleans the cylinder walls. Means the inside of the engine looks lovely and shiny if you remove the spark plug
By cleaning off the walls it reduces the protection the oil offers to the engine. Expect a far shorter engine life until the compression drops right off and power is lost for good.
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Conrad73: there is quite a bit of Stuff in the WWW!
Not sure how the Authorities will react if you's started to store Hydrogen in your Garage,or installed an Electrolyzer there!
Stuff is extremely flammable and explodes in nearly any proportion with Air/Oxygen!
Not sure how the Authorities will react if you's started to store Hydrogen in your Garage,or installed an Electrolyzer there!
Stuff is extremely flammable and explodes in nearly any proportion with Air/Oxygen!
Some of the advertising implies that the cars compression chamber converts the HHO (water) injected into Hydrogen and Oxygen: This is false. Water cant be split just through heat and pressure; ALSO - splitting water to H and O actually TAKES power, it cannot generate it, and the conversion back to water would generate less power than the split would take
So, it isnt true, it isnt possible, and even if it was true and did work, it wouldnt save fuel
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CmdrMercutio: Some of the advertising implies that the cars compression chamber converts the HHO (water) injected into Hydrogen and Oxygen: This is false. Water cant be split just through heat and pressure; ALSO - splitting water to H and O actually TAKES power, it cannot generate it, and the conversion back to water would generate less power than the split would take
So, it isnt true, it isnt possible, and even if it was true and did work, it wouldnt save fuel
how do you think the old Blacksmiths brought their Fires up to Welding Temperature?So, it isnt true, it isnt possible, and even if it was true and did work, it wouldnt save fuel
Had a big Brush to sprincle Wter into the Fire,which would split it into H and O,then recombined while adding heat to the Fire!
Meyer and later Investigators actually claim that his setup would create a Plasma!
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Conrad73: how do you think the old Blacksmiths brought their Fires up to Welding Temperature?
Had a big Brush to sprincle Wter into the Fire,which would split it into H and O,then recombined while adding heat to the Fire!
Meyer and later Investigators actually claim that his setup would create a Plasma!
Had a big Brush to sprincle Wter into the Fire,which would split it into H and O,then recombined while adding heat to the Fire!
Meyer and later Investigators actually claim that his setup would create a Plasma!
What absoluite nonsense. The laws of physics prevent that.
And Blacksmiths have never used water to raise the temperature of fire, for 2 reasons
1) using a bellows is easier: this is the way all forges have worked since the 4th millennium BC
2) it wouldnt work
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CmdrMercutio: What absoluite nonsense. The laws of physics prevent that.
And Blacksmiths have never used water to raise the temperature of fire, for 2 reasons
1) using a bellows is easier: this is the way all forges have worked since the 4th millennium BC
2) it wouldnt work
And Blacksmiths have never used water to raise the temperature of fire, for 2 reasons
1) using a bellows is easier: this is the way all forges have worked since the 4th millennium BC
2) it wouldnt work
I does work. Thats the reason Diesel engine will break if water is gets into the combustion chamber, the water will boost up the exsplotion and the engine will break
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CmdrMercutio: What absoluite nonsense. The laws of physics prevent that.
And Blacksmiths have never used water to raise the temperature of fire, for 2 reasons
1) using a bellows is easier: this is the way all forges have worked since the 4th millennium BC
2) it wouldnt work
so,you think you are smarter than the Blacksmiths who taught me,and the Chemistry-Teacher who showed us that Heat will definitely disassociate Water!And Blacksmiths have never used water to raise the temperature of fire, for 2 reasons
1) using a bellows is easier: this is the way all forges have worked since the 4th millennium BC
2) it wouldnt work
Already being done in Spain in a Solar setup!
requires about 800 to 1,200 °C
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Conrad73: so,you think you are smarter than the Blacksmiths who taught me,and the Chemistry-Teacher who showed us that Heat will definitely disassociate Water!
Already being done in Spain in a Solar setup!
requires about 800 to 1,200 °C
Why do you think the covering of a Welding Rod has to be dry?Already being done in Spain in a Solar setup!
requires about 800 to 1,200 °C
Simple reason,otherwise the Water in the covering would split and the Hydrogen would induce Brittleness in the weld!
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Adalstef: I does work. Thats the reason Diesel engine will break if water is gets into the combustion chamber, the water will boost up the exsplotion and the engine will break
Ummm, no, it's simple hydraulics, not an explosion.
The compression ratio on a diesel engine is much higher than a petrol engine, as is needed to ignite the fuel, seeing as there is no spark as there is in a petrol engine. Diesel engines will handle a minute amount of water particulate, but only up to the point where there is no room to compress them, same for a petrol engine, bu the ratio is much higher on a petrol engine.
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CmdrMercutio: Don't believe you, please post proof
really doesn't matter what you believe!The high temperatures necessary to split water can be achieved through the use of concentrating solar power. Hydrosol-2 is a 100-kilowatt pilot plant at the Plataforma Solar de Almería in Spain which uses sunlight to obtain the required 800 to 1,200 °C to split water. Hydrosol II has been in operation since 2008. The design of this 100-kilowatt pilot plant is based on a modular concept. As a result, it may be possible that this technology could be readily scaled up to the megawatt range by multiplying the available reactor units and by connecting the plant to heliostat fields (fields of sun-tracking mirrors) of a suitable size.
according to WIKI
something we knew in my Profession for a long time!
Still used in Forgewelding to get that little extra Push!
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Conrad73: Why do you think the covering of a Welding Rod has to be dry?
Simple reason,otherwise the Water in the covering would split and the Hydrogen would induce Brittleness in the weld!
Simple reason,otherwise the Water in the covering would split and the Hydrogen would induce Brittleness in the weld!
Hydrogen embrittlement, and it's the same for different shielding gasses used in MIG and TIG precesses, and for flux core and submerged arc.
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kidatheart: Ummm, no, it's simple hydraulics, not an explosion.
The compression ratio on a diesel engine is much higher than a petrol engine, as is needed to ignite the fuel, seeing as there is no spark as there is in a petrol engine. Diesel engines will handle a minute amount of water particulate, but only up to the point where there is no room to compress them, same for a petrol engine, bu the ratio is much higher on a petrol engine.
yep,first a bent Connecting-Rod,then a Piston through the Side of the Cylinder-Block!The compression ratio on a diesel engine is much higher than a petrol engine, as is needed to ignite the fuel, seeing as there is no spark as there is in a petrol engine. Diesel engines will handle a minute amount of water particulate, but only up to the point where there is no room to compress them, same for a petrol engine, bu the ratio is much higher on a petrol engine.
Works all the time!
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No.......but I´ve farted under the bedsheet
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Adalstef: Has anyone here installed HHO (hydogen) unit in a car?
suck the gas from the bottom of one of these it will produce useable gas . My father followed a Ford Opel truck around Germany '45 and the germans were putting bits of wood in the burner . Better still all you need is a large bladder ,couple of cubic meters or so . Place half a cube of sewage , press out the air . Small compressor , compressed natural gas tank on your vehicle and all the associated gas gear INCLUDING UPER CYLINDER LUBRICATION UNIT . Very important last bit and you are in business .
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