josingleinspain: A good and solid relationship stand the test of time and life?????????
When or what will make you decide to end a relationship.??????
I know we are in 2013 but do you ladies and gents think there is still roles in a relationship depending on being male/female.
Has woman become to independent and men are not real men anymore????
Is this new world we live in to messed up?????
I think back of my grandparents and even parents there were defined roles...
They got married and stayed married.....Why do we not stay in relationships and marriage anymore????
I think, firstly, people marry for the wrong reasons today and it is too easy to divorce when unhappy about something instead of working on their marriage.
Additionally, commitments mean little to most people today. My grandparents, all four immigrants to the USA, had pre-arranged marriages, yet they valued their commitments and families with a great pride.
Yeah, I think we are seeing a different value system that doesn't allow room for such things. It's all about "me" again, today. jest my two cents.
Is it maybe a case that we just do not put enough need to be with somebody that we just give up. Could it be that because the world we live in is so fast passed???? That everything can be replaced. Could it be that we became so conditioned that if even if a appliance breaks we just buy a new one..... Could it be that it translates even to relationships?????
josingleinspain: Is it maybe a case that we just do not put enough need to be with somebody that we just give up. Could it be that because the world we live in is so fast passed???? That everything can be replaced. Could it be that we became so conditioned that if even if a appliance breaks we just buy a new one..... Could it be that it translates even to relationships?????
... Could it also be that besides being "me" people today, that not only batteries, but government has replaced men
josingleinspain: Yes Maybe its just me but I feel maybe humanity has lost the the need to make anything last.
Yes, and take away or make energy sources less affordable and what do you get, probably: mothers and fathers living together raising families with values.... because of. ..... necessity?
I would say life is fast paced and there is a commitment until someone sees the greener grass on the other side. Marriage is not the contract of old, as they use to say, for better or for worse. Decisions are made and sometime one party peddles back to start anew. No compassion nor gauging the consequences of the actions. The marriage contract doesn't hold the same value as before and if there is a perceived "unhappiness", any reason is valid to terminate the relationship. Before, they had a strong bond of friendship and they partnered to face adversity. Money wasn't a factor. The family came first, now it is the "me" generations and "I want it now" attitude. With all the convenience of technology, there is more time to think about unhappy we are. You add manipulation, lies, control, hypocrisy and plastic people and you have a toxic mix. This is without taking religious values in consideration.
If 2 people are honest, genuine and upfront with what they want and it's mutual, then it can work.
Not being upfront, willing to listen and the will to make a relationship work is just too common unfortunately.
Lack of respect, unwillingness to commit and selfishness is why people won't stay or even enter into relationships, just saying "next" is an easy way out for a lot of people.
If it's not 50/50 or a 2-way street I won't bother.
Gone are the days of old where mom stayed home raising the kids and dad worked. Those were much easier going times...yes there were struggles but the family unit was held more valuable back then. People were just happy to have and maintain the basics of life back then. I was raised in a family like that.
Nowadays, the economy and other factors have entered the equation and both people in a relationship have to work to keep up. This, coupled with the mindset of wanting the biggest and best of everything in the material world has played a part in the deterioration of lasting relationships. Stress attributed to high standards, working and raising a family has taken it's toll on relationships as I remember them to be. People have become "me" focused and have gotten accustomed to a life where everything, including relationships, have become disposable.
Well, i think the reason many of the old marraiges were long term was because in times past,the woman had no choice but to stay put. She would have left with nothing,and as women were the norm in the work place,survival would have been difflecult. There was no help,it was a social stigma,they couldnt afford to rent ect. Now,the women have careers,can get mortgages,can purchase there own car,and get something back for all the years they put into a marraige. It is no longer a social stigma,and the majority hsve choices. Good luck to them,why should they put up with it.
I think today people don't take the marriage vows seriously. it's to easy to walk away. granted times have changed, morality has changed. government stepped in on raising your children.yes things have changed but not for the good.
IMO marriage works if you both work on the marriage. When saying "Ido", the bliss and lust and love and adventour are all good. However there is also going to be work that keeps 2 together. Communication is essntial as is respect. If you respect your mate, then you will listen to his/her thoughts on a subject if different from your thoughts. Keeping the bedroom exciting is usually a way to keep your partner smiling. Marriage has changed I believe because 1, women now drive, work, don't always depend on husband for $ as in years ago.2, people arn't willing to work on marriage if in trouble. Easy to just move on to some.3, vows are recited on wedding day. How many have thought through what they are promising? I think it is sad people marry when they don't know their partner well enough to spend rest of life with often. If you knew you couldn't marry unless it truly meant forever, legally you would have to stay with that person forever, some would think twice. So my opinion. I want marriage but only if it is with a man I have gotten to know as well as I can. If I am in love, not feeling lust, gain, or fun times in marriage. If he feels the same and we share many values and agree to diagree on some isssues, can only hope and pray he is willing to comprimise as I will and always feel a deep devotion to me as well as being good friends. It has become a throw away world, temporary solutions. Sadly many have put marriage in same category. To those who stay together through thick and thin .
janie1305Southampton, Hampshire, England UK916 posts
rebel2: Well, i think the reason many of the old marraiges were long term was because in times past,the woman had no choice but to stay put. She would have left with nothing,and as women were the norm in the work place,survival would have been difflecult. There was no help,it was a social stigma,they couldnt afford to rent ect. Now,the women have careers,can get mortgages,can purchase there own car,and get something back for all the years they put into a marraige. It is no longer a social stigma,and the majority hsve choices. Good luck to them,why should they put up with it.
Yes it's very easy to think back fondly about all these long marriages which may have been utterly miserable for the reasons you give.
I also think a lot of people here have had long marriages/relationships and therefore shown commitment, but for various reasons they ended anyway.
I thought of this thread while at dinner earlier tonight. Sitting a table or two away was colonel, astronaut, U.S. congressman John Glenn Jr and his wife Annie. They celebrated their 60th marriage anniversary this April. They were childhood friends and then high school sweethearts. They are still very active in various community service in their 90's and you can tell they still enjoy each other a lot today. I think they value each other.
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When or what will make you decide to end a relationship.??????
I know we are in 2013 but do you ladies and gents think there is still roles in a relationship depending on being male/female.
Has woman become to independent and men are not real men anymore????
Is this new world we live in to messed up?????
I think back of my grandparents and even parents there were defined roles...
They got married and stayed married.....Why do we not stay in relationships and marriage anymore????