No War on Syria! U must be joking. ( Archived) (95)

Sep 12, 2013 5:07 PM CST No War on Syria! U must be joking.
Pom_Pom
Pom_PomPom_PomBuenos Aires, Argentina71 Threads 32 Polls 1,740 Posts
MADDOG69: this is the alternative...



No, the alternative is for you to open your legs wider in your profile pic... giggle



laugh
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Sep 12, 2013 5:37 PM CST No War on Syria! U must be joking.
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
MADDOG69: And again completely skipped Del Ponte...


Del Ponte is a paid UN beuacratic. Paid to try to keep the peace. So she says.....A US strike will not work on one hand....while on the other hand....her own UN investigators came back with a near air tight case that it was ASSad that did the agent strike.

So we have a UN bureaucrat that stares at the evidence of a WMD attack that killed 1300 people. Says to her self....I cannot do anything about. I don't have that kind of authority or abilities. Why should the US be able to do anything about it? I am the UN!! The US...you know the country that had 911. That did the Iraq invasion. Yada yada......

Which plays into today Putin's New York Times Op-Ed. Were he questions now Only President Obama's abilities. But the abilities of the American people.

First of all. Del Ponte does not know all the American military abilities. Nor does Putin. Oh they will tell that they do. But believe me, our arnesal today is much more complex and sophisticated that even 5 years ago.

Let me explain it this way. What has the United States been doing in its military? Increasing forces or decreasing them? Answer is decreasing them.

Now you can say....that is because the US is broke. Or you can say the US has developed new weapon technologies that allow a major force reduction. We only force reduce in this world when we have developed new technologies to make our force more effective.

I think Syria, Russia, and the world is for a big surprise.....yes even
Del Ponte. It ain't going to be 100 cruise missiles kids.....like in Libya.

By the way here is another source of ASSad weapons


Yep....Iraqi Air Force General George Sada says Sadam shipped WMDs to Syria prior to the Iraq invasion of 2003. Sada was number 2 in the Iraqi Air Force. How about that?
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Sep 12, 2013 5:53 PM CST No War on Syria! U must be joking.
TTom50:

Yep....Iraqi Air Force General George Sada says Sadam shipped WMDs to Syria prior to the Iraq invasion of 2003. Sada was number 2 in the Iraqi Air Force. How about that?

Did he not belong to the Iraqi in Exile group didn't he? These were the group that was running around Washington like headless chickens lobbying anyone that would listen to them... their claims were outlandish. Even the Saudi intelligence forces had concluded from their own info that there were damn all WMDs in Iraq. Snowden's releases showed us there was as much chemicals in Iraq as there is in a high School Chemistry set.
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Sep 12, 2013 6:01 PM CST No War on Syria! U must be joking.
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Delatude: ...I find it ironic when you talk of Hezbollah (a terrorist organization) fighting the terrorists in Syria in one of your thread.


Hezbollah is NOT a terrorist organization.

It is a part of the power balance in Lebanon and serves a peacekeeping and stabilizing role there. Far more peaceful that the Christian Philangists who massacred poor defenseless Palestinian refugees (under the direction of the Israelis).

Hezbollah is mostly funded and supplied by Iran but so what?
Iran is a peaceful neighboring country that minds its own business.

The US has mercenary terrorist armies all over the world starting covert wars and trying to topple governments. Hezbollah is a model of restraint in comparison.
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Sep 12, 2013 6:17 PM CST No War on Syria! U must be joking.
RayfromUSA: Hezbollah is NOT a terrorist organization.

When they fire rockets into Population centres, yes they are terrorists.

Yeah, and Arafat himself also killed some of those refugees.
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Sep 12, 2013 7:10 PM CST No War on Syria! U must be joking.
TTom50: I mention those number on Mao and Friends to show how bad it get when a government decides to kill its own people.

So returning to Assad and friends....say he gives up his now admitted 200,000 litres of chemical agents (Gee here I did not think that he had any) to the UN.

What is to stop him from say buying 400,000 litre of chemical agents from his friendly Russian arms merchant, sent to him by his best friend in the entire world....Vladimir Putin?

Assad's chemical agents give him the ability to kill faster than Mao ever did. Kill those children and women and elderly that were going to force him from power. Yea sure. Those children in Damascus never did a thing to Assad. Except to have parents that were Sunni. And because Assad is on a ethnic cleansing program.....my prediction is....he will not give up his agents. Even if his best friend in the entire world, President Putin asks him too.



TT... This is where you run out of facts and make up what if's.. doh



As usual I don't have time to help you try to change the subject.. laugh


wine


"Being noticed can be a burden. Jesus got himself crucified because he got himself noticed. So I disappear a lot." ~Bob Dylan grin
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Sep 12, 2013 7:21 PM CST No War on Syria! U must be joking.
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
bohemianjack: TT... This is where you run out of facts and make up what if's..
As usual I don't have time to help you try to change the subject.. "Being noticed can be a burden. Jesus got himself crucified because he got himself noticed. So I disappear a lot." ~Bob Dylan


I think that I would call this 'admission of having Chemical weapons' by ASSad. If he did not have them, how could he surrender them to a 3rd party? LOL..........



The 200,000 litre of agents was a number I picked up in a news report.

Luke 23:24 "Jesus said, Father, forgive them. Then know not what they do."
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Sep 12, 2013 7:22 PM CST No War on Syria! U must be joking.
steffffie
steffffiesteffffieChicago, Illinois USA8 Threads 598 Posts
I truly hope that Syria doesn't go Libya's way.


• The Conventional Wisdom Is Wrong. Libya's 2011 uprising was never peaceful, but instead was armed and violent from the start. Muammar al-Qaddafi did not target civilians or resort to indiscriminate force. Although inspired by humanitarian impulse, NATO's intervention did not aim mainly to protect civilians, but rather to overthrow Qaddafi's regime, even at the expense of increasing the harm to Libyans.

• The Intervention Backfired. NATO's action magnified the conflict's duration about sixfold and its death toll at least sevenfold, while also exacerbating human rights abuses, humanitarian suffering, Islamic radicalism, and weapons proliferation in Libya and its neighbors. If Libya was a "model intervention," then it was a model of failure.

• Three Lessons. First, beware rebel propaganda that seeks intervention by falsely crying genocide. Second, avoid intervening on humanitarian grounds in ways that reward rebels and thus endanger civilians, unless the state is already targeting noncombatants. Third, resist the tendency of humanitarian intervention to morph into regime change, which amplifies the risk to civilians.

http://belfercenter.ksg.harvard.edu/publication/23387/lessons_from_libya.html
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Sep 12, 2013 7:54 PM CST No War on Syria! U must be joking.
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Sep 12, 2013 8:01 PM CST No War on Syria! U must be joking.
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Leo_7: UN should change its profile and get more power.


Oh, don't worry. They are doing just that.


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Sep 12, 2013 8:01 PM CST No War on Syria! U must be joking.
TTom50: I think that I would call this 'admission of having Chemical weapons' by ASSad. If he did not have them, how could he surrender them to a 3rd party? LOL..........



The 200,000 litre of agents was a number I picked up in a news report.

Luke 23:24 "Jesus said, Father, forgive them. Then know not what they do."


Everyone knew Assad had them... including Putin.. wink


Beyond that much of your argument is pure conjecture.. yawn


wine


“One often makes a remark and only later sees how true it is” ~Ludwig Wittgenstein
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Sep 12, 2013 9:04 PM CST No War on Syria! U must be joking.
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
MADDOG69: When they fire rockets into Population centres, yes they are terrorists.


What about nuclear bombs?

Would dropping a nuke on a crowded city make someone a terrorist?

It's been done you know.
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Oct 12, 2013 6:56 AM CST No War on Syria! U must be joking.
Adalstef: Wasnt it these guys Obama was going to fight for?
Yeah when they're on 'Our' side they're freedom fighters. When they're on the 'other' side they're turrririririrsts.
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Oct 12, 2013 8:32 AM CST No War on Syria! U must be joking.
Leo_7
Leo_7Leo_7Baku, Azerbaijan87 Threads 16 Polls 2,514 Posts
MADDOG69: Yeah when they're on 'Our' side they're freedom fighters. When they're on the 'other' side they're turrririririrsts.
they r ,their commander and their supporters r terrosits and must pay for their actions.
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Oct 12, 2013 8:43 AM CST No War on Syria! U must be joking.
Ziusudra
ZiusudraZiusudraHernando, Florida USA4 Threads 162 Posts
MADDOG69: I know you like to ride the very edge of rational thought sometimes, Leo, but these videos are found originally on Islamic websites and rehosted.

More?


Isn't Islam just grand and such a peaceful religion I think everyone
should praise Allah for his wonderful ideology.
I'm sure Achmed the dead terrorist would agree!! Silence!! I'll keel you!!
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