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Oct 5, 2013 5:50 AM CST Family question Washington killing
Adalstef
AdalstefAdalstefReykjavik, Northwest Iceland94 Threads 896 Posts
The family of a woman who was shot to death outside the U.S. Capitol after trying to ram her car through a White House barrier said Friday they want to know why she had to die.

Speaking at a press conference late Friday in Brooklyn, Miriam Carey's sister Amy Carey-Jones said Friday that her sister "seemed OK" the last time they spoke more than a week ago.

"We're still very confused as a family why she's not still alive," Amy Carey-Jones said late Friday, speaking of her 34-year-old sister. "I really feel like it's not justified, not justified."
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Oct 5, 2013 5:59 AM CST Family question Washington killing
Adalstef
AdalstefAdalstefReykjavik, Northwest Iceland94 Threads 896 Posts
I wonder if DNA testing of the child would show its Obama´s

Marilyn Monroe killing all over again
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Oct 5, 2013 7:19 AM CST Family question Washington killing
Delatude
DelatudeDelatudeParis, Ile-de-France France649 Posts
Adalstef: The family of a woman who was shot to death outside the U.S. Capitol after trying to ram her car through a White House barrier said Friday they want to know why she had to die.

Speaking at a press conference late Friday in Brooklyn, Miriam Carey's sister Amy Carey-Jones said Friday that her sister "seemed OK" the last time they spoke more than a week ago.

"We're still very confused as a family why she's not still alive," Amy Carey-Jones said late Friday, speaking of her 34-year-old sister. "I really feel like it's not justified, not justified."


The family might have a point there as they used Deadly Force. But with all the terrorists, Law Enforcement didn't take any chances. Although she didn't have any firearms or explosives (after the fact evidence), it was a decision they had to make based on the actions of this lady. Ramming protective barriers is not a normal occurrence and they took it as an attempt to penetrate the grounds and maybe set an explosive device. One of the reasons they have those barriers.
The actions of these Officers will be investigated in their use of "Deadly Force" by an inquiry, not trial by media.
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Oct 5, 2013 7:43 AM CST Family question Washington killing
Adalstef
AdalstefAdalstefReykjavik, Northwest Iceland94 Threads 896 Posts
Delatude: The family might have a point there as they used Deadly Force. But with all the terrorists, Law Enforcement didn't take any chances. Although she didn't have any firearms or explosives (after the fact evidence), it was a decision they had to make based on the actions of this lady. Ramming protective barriers is not a normal occurrence and they took it as an attempt to penetrate the grounds and maybe set an explosive device. One of the reasons they have those barriers.
The actions of these Officers will be investigated in their use of "Deadly Force" by an inquiry, not trial by media.


As I understand it her car was crashed into a guard post and she stepped out unarmed and was shot several times.
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Oct 5, 2013 7:49 AM CST Family question Washington killing
Delatude
DelatudeDelatudeParis, Ile-de-France France649 Posts
Adalstef: As I understand it her car was crashed into a guard post and she stepped out unarmed and was shot several times.


She didn't stop and took evasive action to escape Law Enforcement. She could have had explosives in her car.

"Carey, 34, a resident of Stamford, Connecticut, tried to drive her black Infiniti coupe through a barrier near the White House, then sped toward Capitol Hill, leading police on a high-speed chase that ended when her car got stuck on a median and police shot her."

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Oct 5, 2013 10:57 AM CST Family question Washington killing
Adalstef
AdalstefAdalstefReykjavik, Northwest Iceland94 Threads 896 Posts
Delatude: She didn't stop and took evasive action to escape Law Enforcement. She could have had explosives in her car.

"Carey, 34, a resident of Stamford, Connecticut, tried to drive her black Infiniti coupe through a barrier near the White House, then sped toward Capitol Hill, leading police on a high-speed chase that ended when her car got stuck on a median and police shot her."



No I mean at the end of the car chase, her car was crushed against some structure, she got out of the car unarmed and was shot.
Isnt that accurate?
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Oct 5, 2013 11:03 AM CST Family question Washington killing
Delatude
DelatudeDelatudeParis, Ile-de-France France649 Posts
Adalstef: No I mean at the end of the car chase, her car was crushed against some structure, she got out of the car unarmed and was shot.
Isnt that accurate?



"The woman who was shot to death after a taut, high-speed car chase through the streets between the White House and Capitol Hill was still in her car, snagged on the curb of a grass-covered median, when the police fired at her, a Senate official said on Friday."

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Oct 5, 2013 11:04 AM CST Family question Washington killing
Adalstef
AdalstefAdalstefReykjavik, Northwest Iceland94 Threads 896 Posts
The vast majority of big-city police agencies — including in the District — prohibit or strictly limit their officers from shooting at moving vehicles. But it’s unclear whether the Capitol Police or Secret Service violated their policies during the chase or the shootings.

Brian Leary, a Secret Service spokesman, declined to provide a copy of his agency’s use-of-force or chase policies. Lt. Kimberly Schneider, a spokeswoman for the Capitol Police, did the same.

Some stinky coverup going on
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Oct 5, 2013 11:25 AM CST Family question Washington killing
Glitch101
Glitch101Glitch101London, Greater London, England UK21 Threads 1,079 Posts
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I commented in your previous thread regarding this tragedy.

My concern is why this woman was allowed to continue [without support except medication]caring for a young child.

Surely she should have been receiving treatment, as 18 months is a hell of a long time to be suffering from post natal depression and whatever else ailed her.

She had already been fired from her job because of her erratic behaviour. The warning signs were already in place!

There seems to be a lack of care in the Community in more ways than one.



sigh
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Oct 5, 2013 11:26 AM CST Family question Washington killing
She's a turrurrristsst
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Oct 5, 2013 11:29 AM CST Family question Washington killing
Glitch101
Glitch101Glitch101London, Greater London, England UK21 Threads 1,079 Posts
MADDOG69: She's a turrurrristsst



The news says that she wasn't!grin


Surely you would have to be armed to be classed as a Terrorist!dunno
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Oct 5, 2013 11:31 AM CST Family question Washington killing
Adalstef: I wonder if DNA testing of the child would show its Obama´s

Marilyn Monroe killing all over again


scold
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Oct 5, 2013 11:33 AM CST Family question Washington killing
Adalstef
AdalstefAdalstefReykjavik, Northwest Iceland94 Threads 896 Posts
Glitch101: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Capitol_shooting_incident_(2013)

I commented in your previous thread regarding this tragedy.

My concern is why this woman was allowed to continue [without support except medication]caring for a young child.

Surely she should have been receiving treatment, as 18 months is a hell of a long time to be suffering from post natal depression and whatever else ailed her.

She had already been fired from her job because of her erratic behaviour. The warning signs were already in place!

There seems to be a lack of care in the Community in more ways than one.


According to her family she was in good mental condition:

"Her family said she had been suffering from postpartum depression with psychosis but was not dangerous.

Carey-Jones said her sister had been on medication for postpartum depression but was being taken off the drugs under medical supervision.

"They told her she could get off medication," Carey-Jones said, adding, "There were no indications she was unstable."
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Oct 5, 2013 11:36 AM CST Family question Washington killing
Adalstef
AdalstefAdalstefReykjavik, Northwest Iceland94 Threads 896 Posts
Jeankimberly, why wont the officials hand the baby over to her family?
The baby is still in official care
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Oct 5, 2013 11:37 AM CST Family question Washington killing
anilag
anilaganilagStaten Island, New York USA12 Threads 412 Posts
Glitch101: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Capitol_shooting_incident_(2013)

I commented in your previous thread regarding this tragedy.

My concern is why this woman was allowed to continue [without support except medication]caring for a young child.

Surely she should have been receiving treatment, as 18 months is a hell of a long time to be suffering from post natal depression and whatever else ailed her.

She had already been fired from her job because of her erratic behaviour. The warning signs were already in place!

There seems to be a lack of care in the Community in more ways than one.



Its getting scary, so many cases ,mentally ill people are on streets. Even recent even homeless man injured four people, including child.
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Oct 5, 2013 11:43 AM CST Family question Washington killing
Adalstef: According to her family she was in good mental condition:

"Her family said she had been suffering from postpartum depression with psychosis but was not dangerous.


Carey-Jones said her sister had been on medication for postpartum depression but was being taken off the drugs under medical supervision.

"They told her she could get off medication," Carey-Jones said, adding, "There were no indications she was unstable."


this is not true - she was not in good mental health - even if a family member is quoted as saying this to the news media - it does not make it true. It does not make her death justified -

A lot of police all over America do not know how to deal with someone under mental duress and stress - they all need specialized training - and usually only a majority get the training - not all.

This is the American tragedy - we only provide mental health treatment to those we have determined to be worthy of it, and it aint free and it aint available to those in need.
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Oct 5, 2013 11:45 AM CST Family question Washington killing
Adalstef: Some stinky coverup going on


doh it's called no comment on an ongoing investigation!
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Oct 5, 2013 11:51 AM CST Family question Washington killing
Adalstef
AdalstefAdalstefReykjavik, Northwest Iceland94 Threads 896 Posts
JeanKimberley: this is not true - she was not in good mental health - even if a family member is quoted as saying this to the news media - it does not make it true. It does not make her death justified -

A lot of police all over America do not know how to deal with someone under mental duress and stress - they all need specialized training - and usually only a majority get the training - not all.

This is the American tragedy - we only provide mental health treatment to those we have determined to be worthy of it, and it aint free and it aint available to those in need.


What info do you have on her mental health?
From the officials, the same that killed her?

Maybe the mental health of the cops should be questioned doh
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Oct 5, 2013 11:52 AM CST Family question Washington killing
wave what information do you have on her mental health?


and maybe the mental health of the cops are being questioned.....

gnite
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Oct 5, 2013 12:40 PM CST Family question Washington killing
Glitch101
Glitch101Glitch101London, Greater London, England UK21 Threads 1,079 Posts
Adalstef: According to her family she was in good mental condition:

"Her family said she had been suffering from postpartum depression with psychosis but was not dangerous.

Carey-Jones said her sister had been on medication for postpartum depression but was being taken off the drugs under medical supervision.

"They told her she could get off medication," Carey-Jones said, adding, "There were no indications she was unstable."




Quote from Wiki.

Miriam Carey of Stamford, Connecticut was a 34-year-old dental hygienist licensed to practice in New York and Connecticut. She was born and raised in Bedford-Stuyvesant, Brooklyn, New York. She obtained an associate degree in dental hygiene from Hostos Community College and graduated from Brooklyn College in 2007 with a degree in health nutrition science. According to a family spokesman, Carey had previously been hospitalized for postpartum depression.
Carey's mother told ABC News that her daughter had been depressed since the birth of her daughter. Other wise, Her boss and friends, described Carey as a "non-political person" who was "always happy." On the day of the incident, Carey was supposed to be taking her daughter to a doctor's appointment in Connecticut. The FBI found two medications in her apartment, as well as a laptop, a flash drive and three non-working cell phones. Federal officials said she may have suffered from schizophrenia and bipolar disorder and believed President Barack Obama was communicating with her. Federal officials said no weapons were found in the her car.

Contradictory statements.18 months is a long time to be depressed.
frustrated
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