RETIRING AT 70 (45)
In response to: It's ok for office workers and politicans who don't or never have done manual work besides carrying a reem of paper to the photocopier to sit in their comfy chairs and make these desitions.
Who's gonna employ a 68yr old truck driver,brain surgeon,concretor or a puter programer with arthritis in their fingers Pollies say it would save billions of dollars
Good onya Australian pollies if you did your job right we would'nt need to work to 70yrs old ..... jmo only
Who's gonna employ a 68yr old truck driver,brain surgeon,concretor or a puter programer with arthritis in their fingers Pollies say it would save billions of dollars
Good onya Australian pollies if you did your job right we would'nt need to work to 70yrs old ..... jmo only
ps, it's now 2.20am and i'm running late for work
so as i can help get christmas hampers to our pollies so they are sure to enjoy their christmas 
140 years ago people worked until they died, and we are going back to that - on a gold standard one could fund their own retirement with low risk, but that is no longer possible with a fiat currency system and a central bank that loves inflation...
yeah they are talking about stealing half the value of pensioners houses, there is no level christian politicians won't stoop to
epirb: Its not the money but what you enjoy doing is the key .
I recon your on to something there epirb
Working longer may help us live longer apparently
But it's quality rather than quantity that I'm hoping for in old age
LiLee: I recon your on to something there epirb
Working longer may help us live longer apparently
But it's quality rather than quantity that I'm hoping for in old age
Working longer may help us live longer apparently
But it's quality rather than quantity that I'm hoping for in old age
Interesting titbit on one of the financial segments this week. The average life expectancy 50 years ago was 57 while now it is 80.
And I agree with Epirb about the farmers continuing to keep working up until they drop. My uncle was just shy of 80 and was still out riding and mustering. Had stopped crutching in his early 70s. And would have gone stir crazy if he went off the land.
wash2u: Interesting titbit on one of the financial segments this week. The average life expectancy 50 years ago was 57 while now it is 80.
And I agree with Epirb about the farmers continuing to keep working up until they drop. My uncle was just shy of 80 and was still out riding and mustering. Had stopped crutching in his early 70s. And would have gone stir crazy if he went off the land.
my neighbour a 85 yr old woman,still chops wood for the fire,androunds up her horses every day,and walks the kilometre to town to get her milk and bred every second dayAnd I agree with Epirb about the farmers continuing to keep working up until they drop. My uncle was just shy of 80 and was still out riding and mustering. Had stopped crutching in his early 70s. And would have gone stir crazy if he went off the land.
Lookin4missright: It's ok for office workers and politicans who don't or never have done manual work besides carrying a reem of paper to the photocopier to sit in their comfy chairs and make these desitions.
Who's gonna employ a 68yr old truck driver,brain surgeon,concretor or a puter programer with arthritis in their fingers Pollies say it would save billions of dollars
Good onya Australian pollies if you did your job right we would'nt need to work to 70yrs old ..... jmo only
Who's gonna employ a 68yr old truck driver,brain surgeon,concretor or a puter programer with arthritis in their fingers Pollies say it would save billions of dollars
Good onya Australian pollies if you did your job right we would'nt need to work to 70yrs old ..... jmo only
Hi Lookin..
That is not fair..
. the reams come in boxes and they are heavy.. and I can carry a whole box... but usually, just one ream..or two if I am feeling strong...The chairs are not always comfortabl
e, and we are forced to get up and walk to the photocopier... walk to the pamphlet folder machine, walk to the laminator, and walk to the kitchen to make a coffee.. 
Jeez, whatdya reckon, it's easy or sommat...!!!!
The old age pensioners today paid government tax levies to fund later retirement, not there fault politicians siphoned the money off into there scams, its truly insulting every time the ABC wants to distract people it attacks there feeling of personal financil security
Lookin4missright: It's ok for office workers and politicans who don't or never have done manual work besides carrying a reem of paper to the photocopier to sit in their comfy chairs and make these desitions.
Who's gonna employ a 68yr old truck driver,brain surgeon,concretor or a puter programer with arthritis in their fingers Pollies say it would save billions of dollars
Good onya Australian pollies if you did your job right we would'nt need to work to 70yrs old ..... jmo only
Who's gonna employ a 68yr old truck driver,brain surgeon,concretor or a puter programer with arthritis in their fingers Pollies say it would save billions of dollars
Good onya Australian pollies if you did your job right we would'nt need to work to 70yrs old ..... jmo only
We need to do something about this, everyone should contact their MP & let them know how we feel. The a--holes won't reduce their entitlements, ie super, travel etc. They are just public servants and they are not serving the public but feathering their own nest. The people that do physically demanding work would be unlikely to be fit enough to continue to do this up to 70 and people who do mentally demanding work are unlikely to be fit enough mentally, decline in ability to retain info or learn new things and keeping up with technology either. You also have the problem with the availability of jobs not only for the older workers but our youth. Get rid of some of our politians/level of government,that would save some money.
maddie51: We need to do something about this, everyone should contact their MP & let them know how we feel. The a--holes won't reduce their entitlements, ie super, travel etc. They are just public servants and they are not serving the public but feathering their own nest. The people that do physically demanding work would be unlikely to be fit enough to continue to do this up to 70 and people who do mentally demanding work are unlikely to be fit enough mentally, decline in ability to retain info or learn new things and keeping up with technology either. You also have the problem with the availability of jobs not only for the older workers but our youth. Get rid of some of our politians/level of government,that would save some money.
Well said Maddie and also the fact that we would like to have a life while we're still fit and well enough to enjoy it!
How many people have retired at that late age and dropped dead six months later?
Or at the very least, do not enjoy the health they did in previous years..
lookinmaddie51: We need to do something about this, everyone should contact their MP & let them know how we feel. The a--holes won't reduce their entitlements, ie super, travel etc. They are just public servants and they are not serving the public but feathering their own nest. The people that do physically demanding work would be unlikely to be fit enough to continue to do this up to 70 and people who do mentally demanding work are unlikely to be fit enough mentally, decline in ability to retain info or learn new things and keeping up with technology either. You also have the problem with the availability of jobs not only for the older workers but our youth. Get rid of some of our politians/level of government,that would save some money.
<---- free tea & scones at lookin's place ps, can you please stop at coles and grab the scones
serene56: lookin
pssst!! Did i make sense
Lookin4missright: pssst!! Did i make sense
Complete sense.
I understand that some people are passionate about the work they do and want to continue as long as possible, and that's fine, but I'm looking forward to having a fit and active retirement, work isn't everything to me.
Merriweather: Hi ah Lookin... yes, I hear you..
But just to add... we have people in their 80's working where I work... because they choose to...Guess the job is not too bad...
But just to add... we have people in their 80's working where I work... because they choose to...Guess the job is not too bad...
Correcto Miss Merrimoo
i never had a choice that the price of smokes are over $20 a pkt, but my choice to smoke.
i never had a choice when bills sky rocketed.
i never had a choice that food has sky rocketed.
and i don't have a choice but to work hours and hours to be able to afford this, prolly till i'm 70 anyway
this morn on way to work i paid about $1.45 a litre for fuel ..... go figure ... i paid $2.40 for a 750ml bottle of water
(just venting) I def know there are a lot of peeps doing it hard all over the world
but in oz i don't understand why we have to keep up with the joneses 
giddyup 
serene56: Complete sense.
I understand that some people are passionate about the work they do and want to continue as long as possible, and that's fine, but I'm looking forward to having a fit and active retirement, work isn't everything to me.
I understand that some people are passionate about the work they do and want to continue as long as possible, and that's fine, but I'm looking forward to having a fit and active retirement, work isn't everything to me.
I'm def hearin ya girlfriend
ps, wanna go halvies in a tinny
already have a rod for ya 
A lot of the retirees (mainly women) of today didn't have the benefit of a lifetime of superannuation contributions to depend on. It was a given thing that they worked, paid tax and part of that tax was to enable them to have a pension.
The ALP have raised employer contributions and the LNP and business spit the dummy
If super is going to replace pensions then it has to increase from what it is now?
I am sure there would be a lot more retirees that would love to work part time and still have a part pension, that would serve 2 purposes, it would improve their income, they would be better off, they might feel better instead of being made to feel they are getting something they are not entitled to or being given begrudgingly. And it would cut the Govt pension bill.
But I think we all know that already over 50's find it hard to get a job if they are made redundant. Depends on your skills and experience but if they are having problems how's it gonna be for a 68 yo??
Then we will hear that the oldies are hogging the jobs and keeping a young person out of the workforce
I am sure Workcover would have something to say, older people maybe more a risk for injuries, falls etc. Premiums go up, can't afford to employ anyone over ??
Think we have got to the state where we have become too smart for our own good? We have developed medicine to the point where we can keep people alive longer with more effective medication and surgery, so now we have the situation where we are keeping people alive longer who maybe 50 yrs ago would not have been possible.
Maybe we need more young and healthy migrants to work, pay taxes so we can afford decent retirement for our Seniors??
And yes, as is usual our leaders never lead by example??
Had one of our local MP's complaining that the $240 travel allowance was a pittance!! He has got it in the ear from a few people.
The ALP have raised employer contributions and the LNP and business spit the dummy
If super is going to replace pensions then it has to increase from what it is now?
I am sure there would be a lot more retirees that would love to work part time and still have a part pension, that would serve 2 purposes, it would improve their income, they would be better off, they might feel better instead of being made to feel they are getting something they are not entitled to or being given begrudgingly. And it would cut the Govt pension bill.
But I think we all know that already over 50's find it hard to get a job if they are made redundant. Depends on your skills and experience but if they are having problems how's it gonna be for a 68 yo??
Then we will hear that the oldies are hogging the jobs and keeping a young person out of the workforce
I am sure Workcover would have something to say, older people maybe more a risk for injuries, falls etc. Premiums go up, can't afford to employ anyone over ??
Think we have got to the state where we have become too smart for our own good? We have developed medicine to the point where we can keep people alive longer with more effective medication and surgery, so now we have the situation where we are keeping people alive longer who maybe 50 yrs ago would not have been possible.
Maybe we need more young and healthy migrants to work, pay taxes so we can afford decent retirement for our Seniors??
And yes, as is usual our leaders never lead by example??
Had one of our local MP's complaining that the $240 travel allowance was a pittance!! He has got it in the ear from a few people.
Lookin4missright: <---- free tea & scones at lookin's place
ps, can you please stop at coles and grab the scones
ps, can you please stop at coles and grab the scones
Fruit scones or plain? I sent an email off to Nick Xenephon MP this morning expressing my disgust at the proposed increased retirement age, lets see if he responds.
Newlife08: A lot of the retirees (mainly women) of today didn't have the benefit of a lifetime of superannuation contributions to depend on. It was a given thing that they worked, paid tax and part of that tax was to enable them to have a pension.
The ALP have raised employer contributions and the LNP and business spit the dummy
If super is going to replace pensions then it has to increase from what it is now?
I am sure there would be a lot more retirees that would love to work part time and still have a part pension, that would serve 2 purposes, it would improve their income, they would be better off, they might feel better instead of being made to feel they are getting something they are not entitled to or being given begrudgingly. And it would cut the Govt pension bill.
But I think we all know that already over 50's find it hard to get a job if they are made redundant. Depends on your skills and experience but if they are having problems how's it gonna be for a 68 yo??
Then we will hear that the oldies are hogging the jobs and keeping a young person out of the workforce
I am sure Workcover would have something to say, older people maybe more a risk for injuries, falls etc. Premiums go up, can't afford to employ anyone over ??
Think we have got to the state where we have become too smart for our own good? We have developed medicine to the point where we can keep people alive longer with more effective medication and surgery, so now we have the situation where we are keeping people alive longer who maybe 50 yrs ago would not have been possible.
Maybe we need more young and healthy migrants to work, pay taxes so we can afford decent retirement for our Seniors??
And yes, as is usual our leaders never lead by example??
Had one of our local MP's complaining that the $240 travel allowance was a pittance!! He has got it in the ear from a few people.
The ALP have raised employer contributions and the LNP and business spit the dummy
If super is going to replace pensions then it has to increase from what it is now?
I am sure there would be a lot more retirees that would love to work part time and still have a part pension, that would serve 2 purposes, it would improve their income, they would be better off, they might feel better instead of being made to feel they are getting something they are not entitled to or being given begrudgingly. And it would cut the Govt pension bill.
But I think we all know that already over 50's find it hard to get a job if they are made redundant. Depends on your skills and experience but if they are having problems how's it gonna be for a 68 yo??
Then we will hear that the oldies are hogging the jobs and keeping a young person out of the workforce
I am sure Workcover would have something to say, older people maybe more a risk for injuries, falls etc. Premiums go up, can't afford to employ anyone over ??
Think we have got to the state where we have become too smart for our own good? We have developed medicine to the point where we can keep people alive longer with more effective medication and surgery, so now we have the situation where we are keeping people alive longer who maybe 50 yrs ago would not have been possible.
Maybe we need more young and healthy migrants to work, pay taxes so we can afford decent retirement for our Seniors??
And yes, as is usual our leaders never lead by example??
Had one of our local MP's complaining that the $240 travel allowance was a pittance!! He has got it in the ear from a few people.
Well said, totally agree.
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Who's gonna employ a 68yr old truck driver,brain surgeon,concretor or a puter programer with arthritis in their fingers
Pollies say it would save billions of dollars
Good onya Australian pollies if you did your job right we would'nt need to work to 70yrs old ..... jmo only