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Nov 27, 2013 8:32 PM CST How has Obama Care been presented on news in other countries?
Do you hear good thing? Does different politicians in other countries comment at all about it? wine
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Nov 27, 2013 8:36 PM CST How has Obama Care been presented on news in other countries?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
All I've been hearing/reading is negative stuff especially about Obamacare.
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Nov 28, 2013 7:29 AM CST How has Obama Care been presented on news in other countries?
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland40 Threads 4 Polls 2,711 Posts
nomindgames: Do you hear good thing? Does different politicians in other countries comment at all about it?


It's not really news worthy in Europe as it doesn't effect people over here at all. I may see a 10 line piece on page 10 of a newspaper but it doesn't really get any news coverage.

No more than news in the US would carry a story about European countries health budgets.dunno
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Nov 28, 2013 7:44 AM CST How has Obama Care been presented on news in other countries?
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
They tend to stress the moralising line on it, the bringing healthcare to the needy angle - some even have the audacity to compare it to our NHS.

Very little is said about how it is supposed to work or the cost of it. They don't mention that Obamacare's imperfect coverage is to cost 4 to 5 times more than Britain's perfect coverage because Obamacare is about buying votes and creating jobs for the Human surplus that, in all fairness, should just be thrown down a well.
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Nov 28, 2013 7:47 AM CST How has Obama Care been presented on news in other countries?
abcWOMAN
abcWOMANabcWOMANLuleå, Norrbotten Sweden20 Threads 2 Polls 1,583 Posts
sofarsogood74: It's not really news worthy in Europe as it doesn't effect people over here at all. I may see a 10 line piece on page 10 of a newspaper but it doesn't really get any news coverage.

No more than news in the US would carry a story about European countries health budgets.



I agree!thumbs up

It's the same here; not much of head lines in Sweden.
European news are more covered here than Obama news.
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Nov 28, 2013 7:48 AM CST How has Obama Care been presented on news in other countries?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Report in the Daily Telegraph U.K.

The middle class: the first ones slandered as bigots and louts and the first ones billed for all the latest schemes. Too rich to be poor, too poor to be rich. Too little power to rewrite laws in their favour, too much power to be gushed over by champagne socialists and metropolitan editorial boards.


So far, millions of Americans have lost their health-insurance coverage thanks to Obamacare. Those most affected are younger, healthy citizens as well as the middle class. Yes, this middle class includes many liberals. ProPublica has published an article describing the plight of two liberal Democrats who lost their coverage because their comprehensive plan still “did not meet the requirements of the Affordable Care Act”. The couple now must pay exorbitant rates for worse coverage. Since they are of the middle class, they make too much money to qualify for subsidies to help defray the cost of a new plan. (If you are single, the cut-off for subsidies is a salary of $46,000 a year. The cut-off for a family of four is $94,000 a year.)

Now, no nation does anger like the United States. Unlike most government programmes, which conduct their wealth-siphoning out of the public eye, the effects of Obamacare are starkly visible, especially to those it needs to exploit the most. You can complain about welfare and affirmative action all you want; still, to most people, those programmes are abstractions that don’t alter everyday life in any substantial way.
But there really is nothing quite like being a hard-working, tax-paying, law-abiding citizen and receiving a letter in the mail from your health insurance company saying you’ve been dropped – thanks to a law you were told would help you. The letter instantiates, to that upstanding citizen, the fact that he is now merely a sacrificial tax lamb. Millions of little tax lambs have received such letters, and even the most capable spin doctors can’t hide this nasty fact. In fact, the more creative they get with their spin, the more the victims of Obamacare will become enraged that their hardship is being trivialised. Obama is at least smart enough to have learned this, which is why he has offered a very late apology to the tax lambs on NBC News.

It’s a good thing, for him at least, that he’s shifting the tone. Obamacare supporters have used several stock arguments to the cancellation letters, and these have only made things worse. One is to say that it’s the insurance companies’ fault for terminating your coverage, since nothing in the so-called Affordable Care Act mandates dropping coverage. Obama himself used this talking point recently.
But the companies have terminated the plans due to the costs imposed by the law itself. The US government, you see, is using the insurance companies as middleman proxies in its wealth-redistribution scheme. By forcing these companies (among other things) to cover people who are certain losses, the government has effected a massive cost shift onto the pool of less risky customers, as well as to those too “wealthy” (i.e. $47,000 a year) to qualify for help.

Imagine if the US government passed a law mandating that every restaurant in the nation give away a certain number of free meals per day. Then imagine that when the restaurant owners raised prices on other meals to cover the guaranteed losses, the government claimed it was an innocent bystander in the affair. How dare those greedy owners not want to give away free merchandise! We didn’t mandate they raise prices!
Or imagine if the government raised the minimum wage to $50 an hour, and then claimed the ensuing mass unemployment was the fault of greedy shop owners. After all, nothing in the minimum wage law mandates firing employees.
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Nov 28, 2013 8:09 AM CST How has Obama Care been presented on news in other countries?
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
tomcatwarne: Report in the Daily Telegraph U.K.


The BBC and Channel 4 won't present it like that.

Our objection as Brits shouldn't be wealth-redistribution per se. Many British pay more into our NHS than they personally get back from it, although they get the bonus of not being surrounded by the sick and diseased on a small and concentrated island where the public health, if you have a brain, is more of an issue no matter what your level of individual wealth. The problem is Obamacare's sheer inefficiency and how many cronies and made-up jobs are created by Obamacare.
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Nov 28, 2013 8:11 AM CST How has Obama Care been presented on news in other countries?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Obstinance_Works: The BBC and Channel 4 won't present it like that.

Our objection as Brits shouldn't be wealth-redistribution per se. Many British pay more into our NHS than they personally get back from it, although they get the bonus of not being surrounded by the sick and diseased on a small and concentrated island where the public health, if you have a brain, is more of an issue no matter what your level of individual wealth. The problem is Obamacare's sheer inefficiency and how many cronies and made-up jobs are created by Obamacare.



I couldn't find anything in the Daily Mirror for you.
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Nov 28, 2013 8:15 AM CST How has Obama Care been presented on news in other countries?
tomcatwarne: I couldn't find anything in the Daily Mirror for you.
Ah, Obs I reckon is a Daily Mail guy. wink
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Nov 28, 2013 8:30 AM CST How has Obama Care been presented on news in other countries?
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
tomcatwarne: I couldn't find anything in the Daily Mirror for you.


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Nov 28, 2013 8:39 AM CST How has Obama Care been presented on news in other countries?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Oh sorry The Voice of Freedom.
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Nov 28, 2013 8:56 AM CST How has Obama Care been presented on news in other countries?
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
tomcatwarne: Oh sorry The Voice of Freedom.


Please, Britain is so deeply infected with Marxists and Thatcherites that there is no respectable, non-autistic, patriotism in our literature. You're much more likely to find me reading from Perussuomalaiset having first google translated the page, of course.
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Nov 28, 2013 9:00 AM CST How has Obama Care been presented on news in other countries?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
grin grin Try the Helsinki Sanomat it will probably make as much sense to you.
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Nov 28, 2013 9:04 AM CST How has Obama Care been presented on news in other countries?
MadBushpig
MadBushpigMadBushpigHavana, Greater La Havana Cuba11 Threads 7 Polls 106 Posts
nomindgames: Do you hear good thing? Does different politicians in other countries comment at all about it?


... Depends on which news sources you listen / subscribe to. CNN is so far up Omamas sigmoid colon they try and put a positive spin on anything he does or is involved in (it boarders on hero worship). As far as other news sources go they're pretty much negative about 'Obamacare'and the farce surrounding it. It's actually quite an embarrasment for Obama and rightfully so ... devil
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Nov 28, 2013 3:01 PM CST How has Obama Care been presented on news in other countries?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Here in France Obama-care is presented as a victory for liberté, égalité, and fraternité. Of course the Reign of Terror is presented in the same way.
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Nov 28, 2013 3:08 PM CST How has Obama Care been presented on news in other countries?
Adalstef
AdalstefAdalstefReykjavik, Northwest Iceland94 Threads 896 Posts
Not over here, no

we have enough of our own problems to deal with doh
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Nov 29, 2013 11:10 PM CST How has Obama Care been presented on news in other countries?
Adalstef: Not over here, no

we have enough of our own problems to deal with


Simply said, but I am sure it is quite true.handshake
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Nov 29, 2013 11:39 PM CST How has Obama Care been presented on news in other countries?
nomindgames: Simply said, but I am sure it is quite true.


Truly, I live here, But hate to even read it....
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Nov 30, 2013 3:49 AM CST How has Obama Care been presented on news in other countries?
try The Vorwärts!rolling on the floor laughing


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Nov 30, 2013 2:54 PM CST How has Obama Care been presented on news in other countries?
organicfeelin
organicfeelinorganicfeelinAnkara, Central Anatolia Turkey1 Threads 148 Posts
I didn t hear anything from our media.But i looged in and spoke with an gent as i am an American.

very effective advices i ve got even if i have no income.

I also know that some republicans oppose it .I ve heard a woman say.I don t want the government involved in my health report.

Paranoid probably that they ll find out what harsh drugs she uses.

It might be a good thing.Imagine poor millions walkin around with unidentified diseases.

You might get in touch with em without knowing their disease.may be he or she doesnt even know about it.

Totally My views
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