I hear the water rates are being introduced soon. (31)

Jan 7, 2014 9:32 AM CST I hear the water rates are being introduced soon.
Pom_Pom
Pom_PomPom_PomBuenos Aires, Argentina71 Threads 32 Polls 1,740 Posts
nonsmoker: The People who compiled the page you linked us to.
Obviously dont consider Ireland dry enough to mention on the list of Countries



doh - I didn't noticed.

I'm sorry.-blushing
Jan 7, 2014 10:41 AM CST I hear the water rates are being introduced soon.
henonpause
henonpausehenonpauseCork, Ireland50 Threads 2 Polls 1,504 Posts
nonsmoker: Perhaps we need to help out more, paying for the toxic waste they use to make our water safe.


That's an oxymoron if ever I've heard one rolling on the floor laughing
Jan 7, 2014 11:53 AM CST I hear the water rates are being introduced soon.
Pom_Pom: - I didn't noticed.

I'm sorry.-


No Worries Pom Pom,
I see lots of water foot prints on the hall floor after the rain. cheers
Jan 7, 2014 11:54 AM CST I hear the water rates are being introduced soon.
henonpause: That's an oxymoron if ever I've heard one


Its only funny because it's true. laugh
Jan 7, 2014 4:00 PM CST I hear the water rates are being introduced soon.
facetowardsfront
facetowardsfrontfacetowardsfrontCork, Ireland42 Threads 1 Polls 2,921 Posts
MADDOG69: I never knew if it was a myth or not.... the idea that it's illegal to collect rainwater. I guess it is in some places in Europe? I know in some countries that are hard pressed for water it's a major offence to be messing around with water flow and rivers, and water tables.


Yes, it's illegal under local government laws in a good many countries. The way they do it is they fatten up the public water supply service by pumping public (our) money into it, then they start charging for water, then the sell it off to a private corporation that the State authorises, inspects and regulates. That way the State gets lots of money and more jobs (a bigger State). It's pure Socialism - the State stealing the fruits of private industry (in this case one of their private corporations). As part of the sale of the State water company, the rights to the aquifer will be sold. And so the State's hands will be clean when the corporation goes after anybody diverting water from the aquifer for unpaid private use. No doubt Revenue would be the ones sending the bill to any farmer or individual 'stealing' water in such a manner.

Farmers are going to be crucified with water charges, septic tank and slurry charges, and carbon emmission charges when they come in. They'll be seizing farms up and down the country by the new time.
Jan 7, 2014 4:15 PM CST I hear the water rates are being introduced soon.
WittyandWise
WittyandWiseWittyandWiseDerry, Donegal Ireland15 Threads 2 Polls 3,364 Posts
facetowardsfront: Yes, it's illegal under local government laws in a good many countries. The way they do it is they fatten up the public water supply service by pumping public (our) money into it, then they start charging for water, then the sell it off to a private corporation that the State authorises, inspects and regulates. That way the State gets lots of money and more jobs (a bigger State). It's pure Socialism - the State stealing the fruits of private industry (in this case one of their private corporations). As part of the sale of the State water company, the rights to the aquifer will be sold. And so the State's hands will be clean when the corporation goes after anybody diverting water from the aquifer for unpaid private use. No doubt Revenue would be the ones sending the bill to any farmer or individual 'stealing' water in such a manner.

Farmers are going to be crucified with water charges, septic tank and slurry charges, and carbon emmission charges when they come in. They'll be seizing farms up and down the country by the new time.


The government should be helping the farmers, not ruining them, I think it is a disgrace and sad how farming is dwindling
Jan 7, 2014 6:07 PM CST I hear the water rates are being introduced soon.
WittyandWise: The government should be helping the farmers, not ruining them, I think it is a disgrace and sad how farming is dwindling


I think the Government would rather have the land than have Farmers working it, and asking for Grants that help them out.
Those grants would be best in the pockets of the Euro lords. wink

From what I have seen lately I get the feeling Politicians think farmers are nothing more than glorified Spongers.
Jan 7, 2014 6:20 PM CST I hear the water rates are being introduced soon.
stanley8m
stanley8mstanley8mkildare, Kildare Ireland156 Threads 7 Polls 5,341 Posts
WittyandWise: The government should be helping the farmers, not ruining them, I think it is a disgrace and sad how farming is dwindling


Do you know the price of land witty? I know some farmers who have land and assets worth millions, so why should we, the taxpayers subsidise millionaire farmers?

The problem with Irish farms is they are too small, there are simply too many farmers in the country.

The solution is to allow free market rules and we would end up with big profitable farms.

Subsidising farmers is stealing the tax that you and I pay.

Our taxes could be used for education, healthcare and a host of more deserving causes than buying big spuddy dinners, and feeds of Guinness for Toyota Avensis driving overweight farmers.
Jan 7, 2014 6:32 PM CST I hear the water rates are being introduced soon.
sirLarryIII
sirLarryIIIsirLarryIIIClump, Kildare Ireland72 Threads 9 Polls 2,016 Posts
stanley8m: Do you know the price of land witty? I know some farmers who have land and assets worth millions, so why should we, the taxpayers subsidise millionaire farmers?

The problem with Irish farms is they are too small, there are simply too many farmers in the country.

The solution is to allow free market rules and we would end up with big profitable farms.

Subsidising farmers is stealing the tax that you and I pay.

Our taxes could be used for education, healthcare and a host of more deserving causes than buying big spuddy dinners, and feeds of Guinness for Toyota Avensis driving overweight farmers.


But what about the orphans,the poor orphans?laugh
Jan 7, 2014 7:16 PM CST I hear the water rates are being introduced soon.
stanley8m: Do you know the price of land witty? I know some farmers who have land and assets worth millions, so why should we, the taxpayers subsidise millionaire farmers?

The problem with Irish farms is they are too small, there are simply too many farmers in the country.

The solution is to allow free market rules and we would end up with big profitable farms.

Subsidising farmers is stealing the tax that you and I pay.

Our taxes could be used for education, healthcare and a host of more deserving causes than buying big spuddy dinners, and feeds of Guinness for Toyota Avensis driving overweight farmers.


sounds like you want collectvisiation brought in
Jan 8, 2014 6:28 AM CST I hear the water rates are being introduced soon.
tinyfangs
tinyfangstinyfangsunder a rock, Leitrim Ireland26 Threads 4 Polls 1,034 Posts
WittyandWise: The government should be helping the farmers, not ruining them, I think it is a disgrace and sad how farming is dwindling

Farmers never needed any government to help them. 'Help schemes' in my view have led to farmers specialising to the point of not being able to provide to needs anymore, in my view a clever twist, making us all more and more vulnerable and dependent on an obscure system. It is the over-regulating, the bulk of confusing and overwhelming laws and regulations, which causes the issues, while with no government to interfere, people could look at what is actually beneficial to produce for their local market, as they did for as long as humanity has been settling instead of roaming.

That is just what I think though, and obviously my view must not be correct hug
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