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Jan 23, 2014 2:46 AM CST Dogs Are People, Too
jarred1
jarred1jarred1eindhoven, North Brabant Netherlands114 Threads 209 Posts
Dogs Are People, Too
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Jan 23, 2014 2:47 AM CST Dogs Are People, Too
pedalguy59
pedalguy59pedalguy59Burlington, Ontario Canada28 Threads 1 Polls 6,976 Posts
jarred1: Dogs Are People, Too


professor Incorrect, different species.
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Jan 23, 2014 2:51 AM CST Dogs Are People, Too
jarred1
jarred1jarred1eindhoven, North Brabant Netherlands114 Threads 209 Posts
But now, by using the M.R.I. to push away the limitations of behaviorism, we can no longer hide from the evidence. Dogs, and probably many other animals (especially our closest primate relatives), seem to have emotions just like us. And this means we must reconsider their treatment as property. blah blah blah blah
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Jan 23, 2014 2:53 AM CST Dogs Are People, Too
pedalguy59
pedalguy59pedalguy59Burlington, Ontario Canada28 Threads 1 Polls 6,976 Posts
jarred1: But now, by using the M.R.I. to push away the limitations of behaviorism, we can no longer hide from the evidence. Dogs, and probably many other animals (especially our closest primate relatives), seem to have emotions just like us. And this means we must reconsider their treatment as property.


laugh Except they Don't know they are a Dog.
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Jan 23, 2014 3:01 AM CST Dogs Are People, Too
jarred1
jarred1jarred1eindhoven, North Brabant Netherlands114 Threads 209 Posts
rolling on the floor laughing
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Jan 23, 2014 3:19 AM CST Dogs Are People, Too
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
When my daughter was small she once went to ask me a question about our dogs. I can't remember the question, but she started with, "Mum, you people like the dogs...?"

I never felt the need to correct her.

Plainly, dogs feel emotions: they're happy to see you when you come home, they mourn the loss of a companion, they get scared and anxious.

They have a range of facial expressions. I had one dog who would mimic smiling and I'd always be greeted with a grin. He became profoundly deaf about half way through his long life and we would communicate largely by facial expression.

On top of all that, dogs can empathise. If you're sad, they will reflect that by putting their head on your knee and looking sadly and worriedly back at you; when you do something out of the ordinary, or a bit crazy, you get the head side to side questioning look.
pedalguy59: Except they Don't know they are a Dog.

Maybe humans don't fully know know that they're dogs, either. Maybe humans don't fully know they're humans.
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Jan 23, 2014 3:23 AM CST Dogs Are People, Too
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
Dogs are NOT people.
professor
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Jan 23, 2014 3:29 AM CST Dogs Are People, Too
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
jac379: When my daughter was small she once went to ask me a question about our dogs. I can't remember the question, but she started with, "Mum, you people like the dogs...?"

I never felt the need to correct her.

Plainly, dogs feel emotions: they're happy to see you when you come home, they mourn the loss of a companion, they get scared and anxious.

They have a range of facial expressions. I had one dog who would mimic smiling and I'd always be greeted with a grin. He became profoundly deaf about half way through his long life and we would communicate largely by facial expression.


On top of all that, dogs can empathise. If you're sad, they will reflect that by putting their head on your knee and looking sadly and worriedly back at you; when you do something out of the ordinary, or a bit crazy, you get the head side to side questioning look.

Maybe humans don't fully know know that they're dogs, either. Maybe humans don't fully know they're humans.



Dogs do not have a conception of mortality they don't know they are going to die.

Also I doubt they have any real facial expressions, they are perceived as having them by the projection of their human owner, whereas dogs have many admirable qualities being human is not one of them.

They are very good at pulling sleds and helping blind and deaf people, some can save drowning people.

They have been bred to be people compliant and user friendly to human beings.
But they are useless at quantum mechanics, and brain surgery.
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Jan 23, 2014 3:31 AM CST Dogs Are People, Too
pedalguy59
pedalguy59pedalguy59Burlington, Ontario Canada28 Threads 1 Polls 6,976 Posts
jac379: When my daughter was small she once went to ask me a question about our dogs. I can't remember the question, but she started with, "Mum, you people like the dogs...?"

I never felt the need to correct her.

Plainly, dogs feel emotions: they're happy to see you when you come home, they mourn the loss of a companion, they get scared and anxious.

They have a range of facial expressions. I had one dog who would mimic smiling and I'd always be greeted with a grin. He became profoundly deaf about half way through his long life and we would communicate largely by facial expression.

On top of all that, dogs can empathise. If you're sad, they will reflect that by putting their head on your knee and looking sadly and worriedly back at you; when you do something out of the ordinary, or a bit crazy, you get the head side to side questioning look.

Maybe humans don't fully know know that they're dogs, either. Maybe humans don't fully know they're humans.


Humans have a sentience, animals do not, except possibly Dolphins.
Experiments have shown an awareness of recognizing a mate from
pictures, and using mirrors. Canines don't have the mental capacity.
I wish they did, I love them so.
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Jan 23, 2014 3:32 AM CST Dogs Are People, Too
misbhavn
misbhavnmisbhavnNoneyabiz, Florida USA30 Threads 4 Polls 439 Posts
Dogs may not be people but like all other animals, should be treated like people in the sense they deserve love, loyalty and compassion.peace
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Jan 23, 2014 3:33 AM CST Dogs Are People, Too
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
not human ,but do talk
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Jan 23, 2014 4:32 AM CST Dogs Are People, Too
Bogart_1960
Bogart_1960Bogart_1960Ask me !, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France36 Threads 1 Polls 10,012 Posts
jarred1: Dogs Are People, Too


some people are dogs too..confused
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Jan 23, 2014 4:34 AM CST Dogs Are People, Too
pedalguy59
pedalguy59pedalguy59Burlington, Ontario Canada28 Threads 1 Polls 6,976 Posts
Bogart_1960: some people are dogs too..


I think there are some on the SA thread.
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Jan 23, 2014 4:35 AM CST Dogs Are People, Too
Bogart_1960
Bogart_1960Bogart_1960Ask me !, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France36 Threads 1 Polls 10,012 Posts
pedalguy59: I think there are some on the SA thread.


gosh, dont offend the dogsgrin

morninghandshake cheers
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Jan 23, 2014 4:36 AM CST Dogs Are People, Too
pedalguy59
pedalguy59pedalguy59Burlington, Ontario Canada28 Threads 1 Polls 6,976 Posts
Bogart_1960: gosh, dont offend the dogs

morning


cheers
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Jan 23, 2014 4:36 AM CST Dogs Are People, Too
Suicide_Mission
Suicide_MissionSuicide_MissionBrisbane, Queensland Australia124 Posts
jarred1: Dogs Are People, Too
Guess we should stop using them for medical experiments then...or is it just me doing that?
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Jan 23, 2014 4:37 AM CST Dogs Are People, Too
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Now if your talking cats they is peoplecats meow choir elephant violin
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Jan 23, 2014 4:38 AM CST Dogs Are People, Too
pedalguy59
pedalguy59pedalguy59Burlington, Ontario Canada28 Threads 1 Polls 6,976 Posts
tomcatwarne: Now if your talking cats they is people


laugh Yep, cute little nasty guys.
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Jan 23, 2014 4:41 AM CST Dogs Are People, Too
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
pedalguy59: Yep, cute little nasty guys.



Hee hee,cats meow can begrin grin grin grin grin
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Jan 23, 2014 4:43 AM CST Dogs Are People, Too
Bogart_1960: some people are dogs too..
Yep, I've been a dog ever since I was a puppy. dancing dog wine
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