Losing the "war" ( Archived) (39)

What do people think about the American admission that the so-called war in Iraq is not being, and cannot be, won? (I say so-called because only Congress can declare war for the Americans and they have not done that since December, 1941)

i would elaborate but i don't understand any of it.

if you are speaking of mr. gates's appointment to the department of defense, if i recall correctly, he qualified the answer of not winning with not losing, either.

and he didn't say anything about it not being ABLE to be won, he said he looked forward to doing more research into the matter.

i haven't read the excerpts, i only listened to npr, so i might have missed some.

Wow, you guys are up early!

As for winning or not, do you think, given the situation, that the US could possibly 'win'?

paper to type, lol...and that's TOO early.

i guess it would depend upon what your idea of winning is. yes, we could wipe out the entire country...but what does that prove? is that 'winning'? or just a big fat loss?

You are certainly eager to take offense. I don't think this question could have been phrased more neutrally. There is not the least anti-Americanism involved, so I don't understand your response except that you are searching for an opportunity to get something off your chest. And referring to me as 'Mr. France' is funnier than you can know. I do not, and have never, represented or tried to represent France or French thought.

But make up their minds about what? They were fairly clear at the outset of this adventure, for example, that they opposed the invasion. As any friend might, they expressed this opinion clearly to their American ally.

No son, Its just a plan and simple fact.... Its called history, Its for anyone to see.....USMC.....

A clip from the news:

Anthony Cordesman, a military analyst who holds the Arleigh A Burke Chair in Strategy at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies, described it as "an elephant gives birth to a mouse".

"We wasted three years so what are we going to do, demand instant success now?" he said. "One of the problems we have here is having sent the bull in to liberate the china shop, we are now blaming the china shop for breaking the china."

It's about time they call it what it is, we where asked for help to free Iraq from a tyrannical regime, they said they wanted a change. Well, the change they wanted was only a different regime, not a democracy. and yes if they did not have American oil corporations there we would have just and replied "so you think you got problems".

we went there, and this truth was revealed but we did not, listenor see, it took a civil war after we claimed our independence from England to bring us together as a nation ( bad blood from that one still exists). So now media says its a Civil war so we should be polite neighbors and be civil and let them as a nation sort it out.

many will say this country and that country arre funding and support this factionand that...well, if our countrys history is accurate we had the same issues. So the weapons of today are more potent then back then, the population is much larger. so maybe the kill ratio as compred to back then is relatively the same...(maybe not)

although I still have not figured out how to return our boys and equipment home safely, cause, last man (Battalion) there is gonna be whacked by the factions inside Iraq those against our presence and those pissed that we are leaving.

yeah this 2 cup of coffee thought was brought to you by the mind a madman. your welcome