Is George Clooney right???? (845)
chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 PostsWithin a week G.Clooney twice said, the Greek marbles housed in the British Museum must return to Greece. The Guardian newspaper,based on Clooney's comments,made a poll,asking,if G.Clooney is right.So far 70% voted YES. What are you voting??? NAY or YAY
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chris27292729: Within a week G.Clooney twice said, the Greek marbles housed in the British Museum must return to Greece. The Guardian newspaper,based on Clooney's comments,made a poll,asking,if G.Clooney is right.So far 70% voted YES. What are you voting??? NAY or YAY
The Greeks lost their marbles again
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tomcatwarne: The Greeks lost their marbles again
George Clooney believes,they should return,where they belong.To Parthenon.Whats your vote????
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chris27292729: George Clooney believes,they should return,where they belong.To Parthenon.Whats your vote????
By 1800 only about half of the original sculptural decoration remained. Between 1801 and 1805 Lord Elgin, the British ambassador to the Ottoman Empire, of which Athens had been a part for some 350 years, acting with the full knowledge and permission of the Ottoman authorities, removed about half of the remaining sculptures from the fallen ruins and from the building itself. Lord Elgin was passionate about ancient Greek art and transported the sculptures back to Britain. The arrival of the sculptures in London had a profound effect on the European public, regenerating interest in ancient Greek culture and influencing contemporary artistic trends. These sculptures were acquired from Lord Elgin by the British Museum in 1816 following a Parliamentary Select Committee enquiry which fully investigated and approved the legality of Lord Elgin’s actions. Since then the sculptures have all been on display to the public in the British Museum, free of entry charge.
They are legally Britains, tough luck Chris
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tomcatwarne: By 1800 only about half of the original sculptural decoration remained. Between 1801 and 1805 Lord Elgin, the British ambassador to the Ottoman Empire, of which Athens had been a part for some 350 years, acting with the full knowledge and permission of the Ottoman authorities, removed about half of the remaining sculptures from the fallen ruins and from the building itself. Lord Elgin was passionate about ancient Greek art and transported the sculptures back to Britain. The arrival of the sculptures in London had a profound effect on the European public, regenerating interest in ancient Greek culture and influencing contemporary artistic trends. These sculptures were acquired from Lord Elgin by the British Museum in 1816 following a Parliamentary Select Committee enquiry which fully investigated and approved the legality of Lord Elgin’s actions. Since then the sculptures have all been on display to the public in the British Museum, free of entry charge.
They are legally Britains, tough luck Chris
They are legally Britains, tough luck Chris
George says different, and he must be right, seeing as he's more popular the any Lord Elgin or government around the world.
Still, I see it as theft, regardless of what any government has to say, and it would be the same for Egyptian artifacts, as well as of any other nation. Send it back to the culture where it originated from, it'd go a long way towards instilling good relations among the peoples of the world.
In saying that, maybe the US should also give back all the oil it's stolen across the globe, or make reparations for it. Canadians would be filthy rich if that happened.
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kidatheart: George says different, and he must be right, seeing as he's more popular the any Lord Elgin or government around the world.
Still, I see it as theft, regardless of what any government has to say, and it would be the same for Egyptian artifacts, as well as of any other nation. Send it back to the culture where it originated from, it'd go a long way towards instilling good relations among the peoples of the world.
In saying that, maybe the US should also give back all the oil it's stolen across the globe, or make reparations for it. Canadians would be filthy rich if that happened.
Still, I see it as theft, regardless of what any government has to say, and it would be the same for Egyptian artifacts, as well as of any other nation. Send it back to the culture where it originated from, it'd go a long way towards instilling good relations among the peoples of the world.
In saying that, maybe the US should also give back all the oil it's stolen across the globe, or make reparations for it. Canadians would be filthy rich if that happened.
Hardly theft, authourised by the Greek authourities, they can't go back on it now.
We've got them and I think you will find the British government intend to keep them.
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kidatheart: George says different, and he must be right, seeing as he's more popular the any Lord Elgin or government around the world.
Still, I see it as theft, regardless of what any government has to say, and it would be the same for Egyptian artifacts, as well as of any other nation. Send it back to the culture where it originated from, it'd go a long way towards instilling good relations among the peoples of the world.
In saying that, maybe the US should also give back all the oil it's stolen across the globe, or make reparations for it. Canadians would be filthy rich if that happened.
The Vatican and the Getty Museum,returned stolen artifacts,back to Greece.You are right,artifacts should be returned, where originated from.Still, I see it as theft, regardless of what any government has to say, and it would be the same for Egyptian artifacts, as well as of any other nation. Send it back to the culture where it originated from, it'd go a long way towards instilling good relations among the peoples of the world.
In saying that, maybe the US should also give back all the oil it's stolen across the globe, or make reparations for it. Canadians would be filthy rich if that happened.
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chris27292729: The Vatican and the Getty Museum,returned stolen artifacts,back to Greece.You are right,artifacts should be returned, where originated from.
They are probably safer where they are in their legitimate home.
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tomcatwarne: Hardly theft, authourised by the Greek authourities, they can't go back on it now.
We've got them and I think you will find the British government intend to keep them.
Not for long.There is a UNESCO talk,about artifacts returning back to the countries of origin.We've got them and I think you will find the British government intend to keep them.
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tomcatwarne: They are probably safer where they are in their legitimate home.
70% of Britons believe their legimative home is the New Acropolis Museum.------ This thread is Archived ------
chris27292729: The Vatican and the Getty Museum,returned stolen artifacts,back to Greece.You are right,artifacts should be returned, where originated from.
If the British government were made up of honourable people, they would return the stolen pieces, but sadly, I can't see that happening.
There are others that like to trifle over legalities and possession, but even they know what is right, regardless of whether they'll admit it.
The British Empire has a lot to answer for, and this is one of the only instances I do truly wish there was a god of some sort, just to make sure the appropriate parties pay for their "sins".
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chris27292729: 70% of Britons believe their legimative legitimate home is the New Acropolis Museum.
perhaps the governments could make up two sides and have a game of marbles, winner takes all.
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tomcatwarne: They are probably safer where they are in their legitimate home.
Among so many artifacts,stolen during the British Empire.------ This thread is Archived ------
chris27292729: Within a week G.Clooney twice said, the Greek marbles housed in the British Museum must return to Greece. The Guardian newspaper,based on Clooney's comments,made a poll,asking,if G.Clooney is right.So far 70% voted YES. What are you voting??? NAY or YAY
Here we go again, not had this rubbish since the Great Cleansing of CS, the time you accused me of deleting mail from your profile, who's lost some marbles???G.Clooney is used to talking crap, ask Charlton Heston.
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chris27292729: Among so many artifacts,stolen during the British Empire.
Oh, the Greek Empire was squeeky clean ??
Henry of Flanders demanded that Michael submit to the Latin Empire, which he did, at least nominally, by allowing his daughter to marry Henry's brother Eustace in 1209. Michael did not honour this alliance, assuming that mountainous Epirus would be mostly impenetrable by any Latins with whom he made and broke alliances. Meanwhile, Boniface's relatives from Montferrat made claims to Epirus as well, and in 1210 Michael allied with the Venetians and attacked Boniface's Kingdom of Thessalonica. Michael was excessively cruel to his prisoners, in some cases crucifying Latin priests.[citation needed] Pope Innocent III excommunicated him in response. Henry forced Michael into a renewed nominal alliance later that year.
The Greek Empire makes The British Empire look positively angelic
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George Clooney is using yet another tool to highlight his new film on monumental art thefts...by stating his objection for the Marbles to remain in UK and return to Greece. If he is so concerned why not donate a considerable sum of his fortune to assist in the repatriation???
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Stedan: George Clooney is using yet another tool to highlight his new film on monumental art thefts...by stating his objection for the Marbles to remain in UK and return to Greece. If he is so concerned why not donate a considerable sum of his fortune to assist in the repatriation???
Exactly, this argument is a rehash of all the old ones on CS and in the media, concluding with Greece not pursuing it's claim cause it doesn't have a leg to stand on.
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almera03: Here we go again, not had this rubbish since the Great Cleansing of CS, the time you accused me of deleting mail from your profile, who's lost some marbles???
G.Clooney is used to talking crap, ask Charlton Heston.
Did i accuse you "" deleting mail from my profile""????.You imagination,gone overboard. So are you for their return,or not.G.Clooney is used to talking crap, ask Charlton Heston.
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chris27292729: Did i accuse you "" deleting mail from my profile""????.You imagination,gone overboard. So are you for their return,or not.
Yes you did accuse me, I have the mail on file. Mentioning it here was to show you, Clooney and Greece have marbles losttheir return no. Instead Greeks should pay their taxes and get some more made.
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