tomcatwarneOPOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
Carey Smith Steacy, a Canadian airline pilot with 17 years of experience, apparently received a blunt and critical letter from a distraught passenger recently. But the issue was not the pilot’s flying style, penchant for finding mid-air turbulence or poor bedside manner.
The issue at hand was the pilot’s ovaries, and the fact that she was not at home doting on children. Where, apparently, she is supposed to be. "The cockpit of an airliner is no place for a woman,” reads a letter written on a napkin left aboard a Calgary flight to Victoria, B.C., obtained by Metro News. "A woman being a mother is the most honor. Not as 'captain.' Were (sic) short on mothers, not pilots WestJet."
The letter further contained reference to a biblical verse and concludes, “In the end, this is all mere vanity.” The author further said he wished WestJet would warn their passengers when a "fair lady" was at the helm so they would have the chance to book another flight.
The fear, of course, is that the pilot will go into spontaneous labor, putting the passengers in immeasurable danger. [Katie Hopkins: Women are delusional on the weighing scales]
The letter is a shame, not worth the soiled napkin it was written on. But Steacy's response is worth celebrating. According to Metro, she posted the following Facebook post (no longer publicly accessible):
To @David in 12E on my flight #463 from Calgary to Victoria today. It was my pleasure flying you safely to your destination. Thank you for the note you discreetly left me on your seat. You made sure to ask the flight attendants before we left if I had enough hours to be the Captain so safety is important to you, too. I have heard many comments from people throughout my 17 year career as a pilot. Most of them positive. Your note is, without a doubt, the funniest. It was a joke, right? RIGHT?? I thought, not. You were more than welcome to deplane when you heard I was a “fair lady.” You have that right. Funny, we all, us humans, have the same rights in this great free country of ours. Now, back to my most important role, being a mother.
While only about four per cent of airline pilots are women, the idea that they are "less than" is ridiculous in this day and age. In fact, the comment is so deafening in its Mad Men-era absurdity that questions of its authenticity are sure to be raised. Such events have been contrived in the past to attain "viral fame."
Westjet has confirmed, however, that they were told of the incident and that they have many female pilots and first officers in their fleet. “We’re enormously proud of the professionalism, skills, experience and expertise of our pilots, and we were very disappointed to find this note,” a spokesman told Yahoo Canada News in an email. Apparently, they are not concerned about the dangers of female pilots launching into spontaneous labour. Won't somebody please think of the children?
Yahoo Canada news.
Footnote: My own personal opinion is that women should fly if suitably qualified. My question why don't more fly as Airline Captains??
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
From Proverbs 31, The Words of King Lemuel’s Mother:
13 She seeks wool and flax
They do some very nice fabrics down City Road in Cardiff, but I do miss David Morgan's haberdashery department. They had the best range of speciality zips, too. :sighs:
14 She is like the merchant ships, She brings her food from afar.
It's true, the big Tesco is two villages away, but I enjoy the walk.
tomcatwarneOPOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
jac379: From Proverbs 31, The Words of King Lemuel’s Mother:
13 She seeks wool and flax
They do some very nice fabrics down City Road in Cardiff, but I do miss David Morgan's haberdashery department. They had the best range of speciality zips, too. :sighs:
14 She is like the merchant ships, She brings her food from afar.
It's true, the big Tesco is two villages away, but I enjoy the walk.
tomcatwarneOPOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
Do most women shy away from the responsibility of top notch jobs, traditionally done by men, preferring to sink back into the comfort of a home and family (with loving husband) rather than join in the rough and tumble of a male orientated world. (Just asking)
tomcatwarne: Do most women shy away from the responsibility of top notch jobs, traditionally done by men, preferring to sink back into the comfort of a home and family (with loving husband) rather than join in the rough and tumble of a male orientated world. (Just asking)
I think that it comes down to interest, mostly males will pursue careers as pilots or truck driving because its something they want to do, There are women in these industries as well who do the same jobs as the males because its something that interests them and they love doing it and the number of women in these types of jobs are starting to climb.
Just as a side note, my brother works in the mines in Western Australia and its a fact that mine bosses prefer women to drive the dump trucks in the mine because they are more acurate and careful than their male counterparts...
tomcatwarneOPOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
DjWabbet: I think that it comes down to interest, mostly males will pursue careers as pilots or truck driving because its something they want to do, There are women in these industries as well who do the same jobs as the males because its something that interests them and they love doing it and the number of women in these types of jobs are starting to climb.
Just as a side note, my brother works in the mines in Western Australia and its a fact that mine bosses prefer women to drive the dump trucks in the mine because they are more acurate and careful than their male counterparts...
What you say has some resonance, the top jobs have been open to women for years but so few have been in there competing. I have no axe to grind or hidden agenda in this subject despite what some people , but I say!!!!!! But I think this subject should be discussed without accusations of political incorrectness.
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
DjWabbet: I think that it comes down to interest, mostly males will pursue careers as pilots or truck driving because its something they want to do, There are women in these industries as well who do the same jobs as the males because its something that interests them and they love doing it and the number of women in these types of jobs are starting to climb.
Just as a side note, my brother works in the mines in Western Australia and its a fact that mine bosses prefer women to drive the dump trucks in the mine because they are more acurate and careful than their male counterparts...
Why would truck driving and piloting be of more interest to men that women, Wabbit?
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
tomcatwarne: Do most women shy away from the responsibility of top notch jobs, traditionally done by men, preferring to sink back into the comfort of a home and family (with loving husband) rather than join in the rough and tumble of a male orientated world. (Just asking)
I'm wondering why you think raising children is not a responsible job, or involves less responsibility than a 'top notch' job.
I'm wondering why you think raising children is a lower status job than jobs traditionally done by men.
tomcatwarneOPOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
jac379: I'm wondering why you think raising children is not a responsible job, or involves less responsibility than a 'top notch' job.
I'm wondering why you think raising children is a lower status job than jobs traditionally done by men.
On the contrary dear Jac, it is the most important and responsible job, I did my share of parenting as did my wife att. Perhaps this is the reason why most women prefer to stay at home instead of trying to pursue careers Is this why you didn't have any career Jac???
....woman flying......duering the war....many woman flew various planes.....(eg)....bombers/fighters/transport....to where ever they where needed......and did a vital roll....never underestimate a woman....if a butch male cant handle this, that's his problem. not a womans.....jmo.
Footnote: My own personal opinion is that women a pilot should fly if suitably qualified. My question why don't more fly as Airline Captains??
How daft, some of the biggest names in aviation history are women, not because they are female but because they were/are damn good pilots! Hanna Reitsch anyone? Or Jacqueline Cochran? She still holds more distance and speed records than any pilot living or dead, male or female.
tomcatwarneOPOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
truheart1941: ....woman flying......duering the war....many woman flew various planes.....(eg)....bombers/fighters/transport....to where ever they where needed......and did a vital roll....never underestimate a woman....if a butch male cant handle this, that's his problem. not a womans.....jmo.
tomcatwarneOPOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
Mauss: How daft, some of the biggest names in aviation history are women, not because they are female but because they were/are damn good pilots! Hanna Reitsch anyone? Or Jacqueline Cochran? She still holds more distance and speed records than any pilot living or dead, male or female.
Why did you change my text, oh I see you thought I was being politically incorrect
Mauss: How daft, some of the biggest names in aviation history are women, not because they are female but because they were/are damn good pilots! Hanna Reitsch anyone? Or Jacqueline Cochran? She still holds more distance and speed records than any pilot living or dead, male or female.
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Carey Smith Steacy, a Canadian airline pilot with 17 years of experience, apparently received a blunt and critical letter from a distraught passenger recently. But the issue was not the pilot’s flying style, penchant for finding mid-air turbulence or poor bedside manner.
The issue at hand was the pilot’s ovaries, and the fact that she was not at home doting on children. Where, apparently, she is supposed to be.
"The cockpit of an airliner is no place for a woman,” reads a letter written on a napkin left aboard a Calgary flight to Victoria, B.C., obtained by Metro News. "A woman being a mother is the most honor. Not as 'captain.' Were (sic) short on mothers, not pilots WestJet."
The letter further contained reference to a biblical verse and concludes, “In the end, this is all mere vanity.”
The author further said he wished WestJet would warn their passengers when a "fair lady" was at the helm so they would have the chance to book another flight.
The fear, of course, is that the pilot will go into spontaneous labor, putting the passengers in immeasurable danger.
[Katie Hopkins: Women are delusional on the weighing scales]
The letter is a shame, not worth the soiled napkin it was written on. But Steacy's response is worth celebrating.
According to Metro, she posted the following Facebook post (no longer publicly accessible):
To @David in 12E on my flight #463 from Calgary to Victoria today. It was my pleasure flying you safely to your destination. Thank you for the note you discreetly left me on your seat. You made sure to ask the flight attendants before we left if I had enough hours to be the Captain so safety is important to you, too. I have heard many comments from people throughout my 17 year career as a pilot. Most of them positive. Your note is, without a doubt, the funniest. It was a joke, right? RIGHT?? I thought, not. You were more than welcome to deplane when you heard I was a “fair lady.” You have that right. Funny, we all, us humans, have the same rights in this great free country of ours. Now, back to my most important role, being a mother.
While only about four per cent of airline pilots are women, the idea that they are "less than" is ridiculous in this day and age.
In fact, the comment is so deafening in its Mad Men-era absurdity that questions of its authenticity are sure to be raised. Such events have been contrived in the past to attain "viral fame."
Westjet has confirmed, however, that they were told of the incident and that they have many female pilots and first officers in their fleet.
“We’re enormously proud of the professionalism, skills, experience and expertise of our pilots, and we were very disappointed to find this note,” a spokesman told Yahoo Canada News in an email.
Apparently, they are not concerned about the dangers of female pilots launching into spontaneous labour. Won't somebody please think of the children?
Yahoo Canada news.
Footnote: My own personal opinion is that women should fly if suitably qualified. My question why don't more fly as Airline Captains??