Euthanasia, Your thoughts (90)
Lookin4missrightmelbourne, Victoria Australia400 Threads 24,032 Posts????
Lookin4missright: ????
I can see the pros and cons for both arguments. However, I believe people have the right to die with dignity. So ... for me, I am pro.
Lookin4missright: ????
Your last thoughts greatly impact on the outcome of your next incarnation...
Euthanasia is for people completely ignorant of the nature of there being, demonstrates extent of people self cherishing minds, (self interest/selfishness) the root cause of our sufferings arise from self-cherishing mind.
If that's what people want to engage in then its there business but bloody stupid i think
Anyone young old sick or not should be offered the dignity of euthanasia if they no longer wish to be a part of this life, for whatever reason. The things we don't read in newspapers any more but we witness it from time to time is when people jump of bridges, jump in front of trains...ets I cannot see the point of denying people the right to die. It's not like if you don't die today you're going to live forever.
AgentAjax: Anyone young old sick or not should be offered the dignity of euthanasia if they no longer wish to be a part of this life, for whatever reason. The things we don't read in newspapers any more but we witness it from time to time is when people jump of bridges, jump in front of trains...ets I cannot see the point of denying people the right to die. It's not like if you don't die today you're going to live forever.
I reckon when you know you are past your use by date, such as ME, I should have the right to choose, yes or no.....
I have done all the things, most any way.......
Just so fed up with being on my own......
Good advice from a person i consider qualified to give such advice is:
The best way of loving oneself is to pull out the root of all problems, which is right in one's own heart; the ego, the self-centered mind.
So, if one lets go of cherishing the I, then it doesn't matter what situation one is experiencing, the problem becomes non- existent...
The best way of loving oneself is to pull out the root of all problems, which is right in one's own heart; the ego, the self-centered mind.
So, if one lets go of cherishing the I, then it doesn't matter what situation one is experiencing, the problem becomes non- existent...
Abagail: I can see the pros and cons for both arguments. However, I believe people have the right to die with dignity. So ... for me, I am pro.
I so agree
if people choose to top themselves that's their choice, however I for one certainly wont support that sort of stupidity.
Our self cherishing selfishness without doubt leads to many forms of mental illness, suffering, including self harm. Self harm refers to people deliberately hurting or mutilating their bodies without necessarily wanting to die, also people just stressing out, feeling down, getting depressed or anxious, that also leads to people topping themselves.
On here you don't need to look very far...
There are programs like "Reach Out" trying to reduce particularly youth suicide which is of course rampant in our community, while its everyone responsibility to assist people unnecessarily suffering brought on by a form of gross ignorance about the nature of plain old selfishness.
Trying to get people to take at least some responsibility for there own thought process clearly isn't easy on CS or any other forum. However that is in my opinion, something all of us should try and do whenever someone is amongst us taking about wasting there precious human experience.
But you are of course welcome to your thoughts to Abagail
Our self cherishing selfishness without doubt leads to many forms of mental illness, suffering, including self harm. Self harm refers to people deliberately hurting or mutilating their bodies without necessarily wanting to die, also people just stressing out, feeling down, getting depressed or anxious, that also leads to people topping themselves.
On here you don't need to look very far...
There are programs like "Reach Out" trying to reduce particularly youth suicide which is of course rampant in our community, while its everyone responsibility to assist people unnecessarily suffering brought on by a form of gross ignorance about the nature of plain old selfishness.
Trying to get people to take at least some responsibility for there own thought process clearly isn't easy on CS or any other forum. However that is in my opinion, something all of us should try and do whenever someone is amongst us taking about wasting there precious human experience.
But you are of course welcome to your thoughts to Abagail
definition of euthansia: mercy killing, assisted suicide, physician-assisted suicide; merciful release, happy release
Euthanasia, in my opinion, has to be an individuals decision or choice. Not something decreed by religion, family or anyone else.
If or when my time comes and I am in pain with no relief possible, no positive prognosis possible, I want firstly the right to refuse treatment, to not prolong a life. My choice, not a choice forced upon me by the medical field, or family. If it comes to the fact at that point that there is a way of leaving this world in a dignified way, in a way that is the least distressing for me and the people around me, I would like the right to choose it.
For me it is relative though, I know a cocktail of readily accessible things to me that will end my life quickly and painlessly. I just have to be physically able to take that action.
And that is the crunch. I have to be able to take that action by myself. If the choice is left too long, the law in Australia takes that right away from you because you can not longer do it yourself.
So ultimately, there may be people who will take action while they can, possibly earlier than they would have to, unsupervised and with no assistance, and without the love and support of family with them. Because if the family is with them there is a possibility of them being charged with assisted suicide.
Euthanasia, in my opinion, has to be an individuals decision or choice. Not something decreed by religion, family or anyone else.
If or when my time comes and I am in pain with no relief possible, no positive prognosis possible, I want firstly the right to refuse treatment, to not prolong a life. My choice, not a choice forced upon me by the medical field, or family. If it comes to the fact at that point that there is a way of leaving this world in a dignified way, in a way that is the least distressing for me and the people around me, I would like the right to choose it.
For me it is relative though, I know a cocktail of readily accessible things to me that will end my life quickly and painlessly. I just have to be physically able to take that action.
And that is the crunch. I have to be able to take that action by myself. If the choice is left too long, the law in Australia takes that right away from you because you can not longer do it yourself.
So ultimately, there may be people who will take action while they can, possibly earlier than they would have to, unsupervised and with no assistance, and without the love and support of family with them. Because if the family is with them there is a possibility of them being charged with assisted suicide.
jem1964: definition of euthansia: mercy killing, assisted suicide, physician-assisted suicide; merciful release, happy release
Euthanasia, in my opinion, has to be an individuals decision or choice. Not something decreed by religion, family or anyone else.
If or when my time comes and I am in pain with no relief possible, no positive prognosis possible, I want firstly the right to refuse treatment, to not prolong a life. My choice, not a choice forced upon me by the medical field, or family. If it comes to the fact at that point that there is a way of leaving this world in a dignified way, in a way that is the least distressing for me and the people around me, I would like the right to choose it.
For me it is relative though, I know a cocktail of readily accessible things to me that will end my life quickly and painlessly. I just have to be physically able to take that action.
And that is the crunch. I have to be able to take that action by myself. If the choice is left too long, the law in Australia takes that right away from you because you can not longer do it yourself.
So ultimately, there may be people who will take action while they can, possibly earlier than they would have to, unsupervised and with no assistance, and without the love and support of family with them. Because if the family is with them there is a possibility of them being charged with assisted suicide.
Euthanasia, in my opinion, has to be an individuals decision or choice. Not something decreed by religion, family or anyone else.
If or when my time comes and I am in pain with no relief possible, no positive prognosis possible, I want firstly the right to refuse treatment, to not prolong a life. My choice, not a choice forced upon me by the medical field, or family. If it comes to the fact at that point that there is a way of leaving this world in a dignified way, in a way that is the least distressing for me and the people around me, I would like the right to choose it.
For me it is relative though, I know a cocktail of readily accessible things to me that will end my life quickly and painlessly. I just have to be physically able to take that action.
And that is the crunch. I have to be able to take that action by myself. If the choice is left too long, the law in Australia takes that right away from you because you can not longer do it yourself.
So ultimately, there may be people who will take action while they can, possibly earlier than they would have to, unsupervised and with no assistance, and without the love and support of family with them. Because if the family is with them there is a possibility of them being charged with assisted suicide.
If I was in that much pain from illness I would elect to not be revived or have the right to turn down treatment that hasn't helped before. I however am scared of the idea that people turn the machines off on love ones that are in comas as some do come out of it sometimes many years later. Some say they will be brained damaged possibly but no ones knows how severe it may be. Some do make good recovery and some don't.cruiser68: I reckon when you know you are past your use by date, such as ME, I should have the right to choose, yes or no.....
I have done all the things, most any way.......
Just so fed up with being on my own......
not exactly what I was talking about but I do understand when the mind is young and the age on your birth certificate can become a barrier and thus leaving you feeling alone. I have done all the things, most any way.......
Just so fed up with being on my own......
I've tried to push the idea for a long time now, " If everyday you wake up and do the same as you have done the day before, the outcome is going to be the same"
When you cannot find someone to share your life with, share it with many, give up few free hours of your day and make someone else's day by being there and you just might get something in return.
Conrad73: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia
(assisted_dying_organisation)
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I found the information about euthanasia in Switzerland particularly interesting Conrad, thank you
serene56: I found the information about euthanasia in Switzerland particularly interesting Conrad, thank you
Pro. With collaborating medical opinion and a wish by the person involved, to choose a dignified way to meet the inevitable for ALL living organisms, is, in my opinion, a right of being. On several occasions I have witnessed people dear to me suffer terribly because others proclaiming a "closeness" to that person, let their beliefs as to how life should unfold, over-ride the person's wishes, who's very life was in question. Often, more dignity and compassion is given a family pet with terminal illness than that accorded to those closest to us,.....but, yes, it is a "delicate" subject,...
A_Non_A_Moose: Pro. With collaborating medical opinion and a wish by the person involved, to choose a dignified way to meet the inevitable for ALL living organisms, is, in my opinion, a right of being. On several occasions I have witnessed people dear to me suffer terribly because others proclaiming a "closeness" to that person, let their beliefs as to how life should unfold, over-ride the person's wishes, who's very life was in question. Often, more dignity and compassion is given a family pet with terminal illness than that accorded to those closest to us,.....but, yes, it is a "delicate" subject,...
Well said.....
AgentAjax:
When you cannot find someone to share your life with, share it with many, give up few free hours of your day and make someone else's day by being there and you just might get something in return.
When you cannot find someone to share your life with, share it with many, give up few free hours of your day and make someone else's day by being there and you just might get something in return.
If I did not have to go to work everyday, I would very likely go and do some volunteer work... Those lovely volunteers are just wonderful.. and do a great job.. and feel needed... and I guess.. that is the operative word... Feel needed... changes everything.. invites new friendships etc.. and then that leads to places to go to, hosting a morning tea yourself.. and so forth..
Have a go Cruiser... do something that makes you feel good and needed..
someone kill me...please
itsimpossible: someone kill me...please
Don't be silly bro
On average, 1 in 8 men will have depression and 1 in 5 men will experience anxiety at some stage of their lives.
While women are more likely to experience depression and anxiety, men are less likely to talk about it. This increases the risk of their depression or anxiety going unrecognised and untreated.
Depression is a high risk factor for suicide and, in Australia, there are approximately 2,200 suicides each year. 80 per cent are by men – with an average of 5 men taking their lives every single day. Suicide is the leading cause of death for men under the age of 44, significantly exceeding the national road toll.
It’s important to remember that depression and anxiety are illnesses, not weaknesses, and effective treatments are available.
Taking action may not be as hard as you think.
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Lookin4missright: Don't be silly bro
On average, 1 in 8 men will have depression and 1 in 5 men will experience anxiety at some stage of their lives.
While women are more likely to experience depression and anxiety, men are less likely to talk about it. This increases the risk of their depression or anxiety going unrecognised and untreated.
Depression is a high risk factor for suicide and, in Australia, there are approximately 2,200 suicides each year. 80 per cent are by men – with an average of 5 men taking their lives every single day. Suicide is the leading cause of death for men under the age of 44, significantly exceeding the national road toll.
It’s important to remember that depression and anxiety are illnesses, not weaknesses, and effective treatments are available.
Taking action may not be as hard as you think.
Beyondblue ... 1300 22 4636
On average, 1 in 8 men will have depression and 1 in 5 men will experience anxiety at some stage of their lives.
While women are more likely to experience depression and anxiety, men are less likely to talk about it. This increases the risk of their depression or anxiety going unrecognised and untreated.
Depression is a high risk factor for suicide and, in Australia, there are approximately 2,200 suicides each year. 80 per cent are by men – with an average of 5 men taking their lives every single day. Suicide is the leading cause of death for men under the age of 44, significantly exceeding the national road toll.
It’s important to remember that depression and anxiety are illnesses, not weaknesses, and effective treatments are available.
Taking action may not be as hard as you think.
Beyondblue ... 1300 22 4636
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