finally an honest politician speaks up against china (54)

Aug 24, 2014 6:09 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
oh those might have been day old
Aug 24, 2014 6:15 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
robplum: oh those might have been day old
might warm the place up yet , Good quake in California as well

late here wave
Aug 24, 2014 6:24 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
Chilly had one to
night matewave
Aug 26, 2014 3:21 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
robplum: Abbott and Co are stealing just on $300 per fortnight from my pension, the servant thief is stealing annually $450,000 off Australians to uphold the Constitution, represent the people in his electric and manage the affairs of politicians in parliament
He is taxing Veterans pension while pushing his utterly flawed views in breach of the Constitution


My ex-In-laws are/were emigrants who did not want to become Aussies. They did want to do the double-dip with a pension from the old country (because they were still citizens of that country) and one from Australia. Hang on, they only worked for half the time in the old country and the rest here. They should only get half pensions from each. Does not work that way for some reason.

Many people "eligable" for Aussie Govt handouts have moved back to the "old country" and get an Aussie Pension which is more than some workers get there. And received the double dose of Juliar's Aussie Incentive/Stimulus Package to ALL Social Benefit receivers. Oops, how many $MMs went overseas with no stimulus to the Aussie economy?

I have worked full time since 1969 with 3 breaks in employment of 3 months, and not having worked for the last 15 months. In those times of not working, I have received a grand total of 4 weeks pay only after being off work seriously ill for 2 months (and less than 1/2 my then wage with zero from my then employer).
Aug 26, 2014 7:02 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts



This one will bring back memories for you Robp...

I have not seen this footage in this clip before...
Aug 26, 2014 7:45 PM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
wash2u: My ex-In-laws are/were emigrants who did not want to become Aussies. They did want to do the double-dip with a pension from the old country (because they were still citizens of that country) and one from Australia. Hang on, they only worked for half the time in the old country and the rest here. They should only get half pensions from each. Does not work that way for some reason.

Many people "eligable" for Aussie Govt handouts have moved back to the "old country" and get an Aussie Pension which is more than some workers get there. And received the double dose of Juliar's Aussie Incentive/Stimulus Package to ALL Social Benefit receivers. Oops, how many $MMs went overseas with no stimulus to the Aussie economy?

I have worked full time since 1969 with 3 breaks in employment of 3 months, and not having worked for the last 15 months. In those times of not working, I have received a grand total of 4 weeks pay only after being off work seriously ill for 2 months (and less than 1/2 my then wage with zero from my then employer).

Oh I'm not knocking you and your circumstance Wash not at all, i understand people are being ripped off by a grossly dishonest political system trying to have its rich mates cake and eat it to
Aug 28, 2014 4:01 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
robplum: Oh I'm not knocking you and your circumstance Wash not at all, i understand people are being ripped off by a grossly dishonest political system trying to have its rich mates cake and eat it to


Sorry, Rob, I think you may have misunderstood my situation over the last 45 years. I qualified for "Sickness Benefits" in 1971 only after being off work for 2 months (and had no sick leave from my employer). The rest of the time I have not worked has been my decision and not sought any money from the Govt. I do not have a gripe about that.

One thing that has always erked me is that I have worked and struggled to provide for my family, going without many luxuries such as ice-cream for desert and half decent coffee while I see others who have never worked getting thier rent-free housing recarpeted and repainted and then complaining that the tradie has not done a decent job. And then complain because the Estate Agent "charges them a fortune" to rent out the coastal holiday home they own.

"Ooh, did I tell you how small this Houso block is? I can only just managed to fit the caravan and the boat in the driveway and I am forced to park my 4WD out on the road and the kids have nowhere to park?" I actually have had people call me when I worked on Councils and complain like that about the lack of on-street parking.
Aug 28, 2014 4:16 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
Its all just thoughts Wash

I lost all business interests everything, not because i did anything, conduct of others including government took away my tax file number

they'd be holding there breath a long time before i filed another tax return
Aug 28, 2014 4:47 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
Its all just thoughts

Wash i don't know anything about centerlink, i never darken there door thankfully.

Rather i like to touch on the subject of assisting government employees, like most people they live off government hand outs, each week or fortnight they pick up a government handout e.g pay...
So that they put food on there table they assist others that also want food on there table however they receive week or fortnight handout that is called new-start, dole, pension all manner of labels described as government hand outs.

Best way to assist other government employees is in writing ask a question (?)

That helps all the public servants, if nobody asked a question they would no longer have a job, so in writing ask quests...
lighten up
Aug 28, 2014 4:49 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
robplum: Its all just thoughts Wash

I lost all business interests everything, not because i did anything, conduct of others including government took away my tax file number

they'd be holding there breath a long time before i filed another tax return


\You never lose your Tax File number. Same as Driver's License. I moved from NSW and lost my Australian Driver's License.

Or so I thought. Mate had moved NSW to Qld and changed his License details. After recently moving back to NSW, he got his old license number back. Whne he queried his origianl License number, the reply was "We know who you are and who you were."
Aug 28, 2014 4:55 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
not so they took away my tax file number and issued another number which killed a business partnership

our thoughts are just thoughts wash, please understand all of us have different perceptions on whats reality
Aug 30, 2014 3:17 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
robplum: not so they took away my tax file number and issued another number which killed a business partnership

our thoughts are just thoughts wash, please understand all of us have different perceptions on whats reality


I have worked in all 3 levels of Government. Believe it or not, there are people there who do actually work. Hardest workers are in Local Government (Councils). What I have found is that most people perceive that people in Govt do nothing and there are a lot who seek that employment for that reason.
Aug 30, 2014 3:30 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
arapaho
arapahoarapahobrisbane, Queensland Australia3 Threads 678 Posts
Most people think all they do is sit round thinking up ways to screw people out of more and more money, while they help themselves to as much as they can get,
its pretty hard to argue against that view,
with the odd exception it seems to be true,
Aug 30, 2014 4:37 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
arapaho: Most people think all they do is sit round thinking up ways to screw people out of more and more money, while they help themselves to as much as they can get,
its pretty hard to argue against that view,
with the odd exception it seems to be true,


My family of previous and current generations have worked for themselves. My brother, sister and I have all married people from another country. I have worked most of my life in Govt sectors. I think I may have a reasonable understanding of peoples working beliefs.

My "Aussie" family have always looked at "How can we better ourselves by improving what we do."

My "Other" family have always looked at "I am better than them."

I have grown up with Chinese and Italians around me where they have migrated here to Australia and "seen the Lucky Country" where they can do an honest days work and receive and honest days pay.

I admire the likes of Frank Pace, a Maltese emmigrant who started a chook farm on the outskirts of Sydeny way back when and who is recognised now as the largest single-owner egg-producer in the world. And this was before he took over a few other egg-layer businesses that were going broke well before the competition institgated by the likes of Woolies & Coles to defeat Aldi.
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