lifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
Leo_7: Do people of the world need space pprograms?
Not all need the NASA program Leo but the ones concerned with the future of this globe and humanity do. Besides, there are plenty of scientific achievements (in the space) that have improved people’s life.
What for do you want more Mango plants? In my place there is plenty of food but people can not buy it and some of it goes wasted. Why people can not buy that food? Because they have not money (market failure ?)
Is there another way to get food without buying it? Legal of course, Just swapping goods (local trading on items) would help a lot yet the gov might not like because then there is not money-taxes going into their boxes.
I do remember in Maine USA –a few decades ago- there was a huge parking place where people could do the swapping of goods along with buying-selling.
Would you support the European Space program in ESA? istead. Why would you be against NASA? Because you need the mangoes? Because it is USA? Because of the money spent? More money is spent in military and wars.
And I do not disagree with the countries having their army for defense which is quite different from invading and attacking.
My support (as if it needed ) goes to NASA and any other space program like the one in Europe.
Personally I don't think man ever walked on the moon. Believe it if you like, I don't.
But I do believe that, like in all major civilizations of the past, there is an underlying mythology that is used to keep the people unified and obedient to the "high priests".
In this supposedly enlightened age the old gods have been discarded. So they had to make up a new one suited to their needs. The modern god is technology. 'Throw yourself into the brave new world and give it all your allegiance and it will lead you to the stars.' Sort of a Wizard of Oz - man behind-the-curtain sort of thing.
It keeps people distracted and lets them imagine that their empire is somehow doing some great noble quest. When, in fact, it's pillaging poor people all over the world to feed its insatiable appetite.
Even the poor people being pillaged are more prone to accept the situation. After all, the god-men who travel to space have the right to dominate.
Space is the perfect setting for such a mythology. Because, like the spirit world, it's out of reach, inaccessible and unverifiable. They can make any claims they like and people will believe. All they have to do is fake a few photos.
lifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
RayfromUSA: No we don't need a space program.
Personally I don't think man ever walked on the moon. Believe it if you like, I don't.
But I do believe that, like in all major civilizations of the past, there is an underlying mythology that is used to keep the people unified and obedient to the "high priests".
In this supposedly enlightened age the old gods have been discarded. So they had to make up a new one suited to their needs. The modern god is technology. 'Throw yourself into the brave new world and give it all your allegiance and it will lead you to the stars.' Sort of a Wizard of Oz - man behind-the-curtain sort of thing.
It keeps people distracted and lets them imagine that their empire is somehow doing some great noble quest. When, in fact, it's pillaging poor people all over the world to feed its insatiable appetite.
Even the poor people being pillaged are more prone to accept the situation. After all, the god-men who travel to space have the right to dominate.
Space is the perfect setting for such a mythology. Because, like the spirit world, it's out of reach, inaccessible and unverifiable. They can make any claims they like and people will believe. All they have to do is fake a few photos.
Have you ever looked trough a telescope Ray? Have you ever taken a picture of the moon with your own camera?
Would you just ignore the universe? And chose the Mangos.
The Causes of poverty go well beyond the NASA program and “NASA's annual budget is half a penny on your tax dollar”.
Take the NASA program out and I bet you one million Dollars that poverty will still prevail.
lifeisadream: Not all need the NASA program Leo but the ones concerned with the future of this globe and humanity do. Besides, there are plenty of scientific achievements (in the space) that have improved people’s life.
What for do you want more Mango plants? In my place there is plenty of food but people can not buy it and some of it goes wasted. Why people can not buy that food? Because they have not money (market failure ?)
Is there another way to get food without buying it? Legal of course, Just swapping goods (local trading on items) would help a lot yet the gov might not like because then there is not money-taxes going into their boxes.
I do remember in Maine USA –a few decades ago- there was a huge parking place where people could do the swapping of goods along with buying-selling.
Would you support the European Space program in ESA? istead. Why would you be against NASA? Because you need the mangoes? Because it is USA? Because of the money spent? More money is spent in military and wars.
And I do not disagree with the countries having their army for defense which is quite different from invading and attacking.
My support (as if it needed ) goes to NASA and any other space program like the one in Europe.
not me,but Ali worried that Nasa is a threat to his mango plants
In response to: Do people of the world need space pprograms?
They're something of a relic I would say. CERN now embodies everything most advanced about mankind.
The best thing about space programs is that the East is going to waste a lot of money on them. Their vainglorious exercises may allow the West to one day catch up by being better at the basics, in the same way that they overtook us whilst we were on the jolly.
Obstinance_Works: They're something of a relic I would say. CERN now embodies everything most advanced about mankind.
The best thing about space programs is that the East is going to waste a lot of money on them. Their vainglorious exercises may allow the West to one day catch up by being better at the basics, in the same way that they overtook us whilst we were on the jolly.
I mostly mean India and China. I'm not sure what the Sheikhs are up to, but if they're getting involved this will be win win for us, our engineers will be being paid to build the thing.
lifeisadream: Have you ever looked trough a telescope Ray? Have you ever taken a picture of the moon with your own camera?
Yes on both counts. Without NASA's help and at a very reasonable cost.
lifeisadream: Would you just ignore the universe? And chose the Mangos.
Can't very well ignore the universe. I live there. But I don't need a military style federal agency to show me the universe. I can see it just fine from my window if the chemtrail residue isn't too thick.
lifeisadream: The Causes of poverty go well beyond the NASA program and “NASA's annual budget is half a penny on your tax dollar”.
Not on my tax dollar it isn't.
lifeisadream: Take the NASA program out and I bet you one million Dollars that poverty will still prevail.
I don't have a million to bet at the moment and besides, of course you are right that poverty would still prevail without NASA.
Poverty is the agenda. Individual wealth has to be confiscated.
If they didn't have NASA the government would just spend more on war toys. It wouldn't change a thing. The exact same companies make both.
NASA is just a sub-branch of the military industrial complex. As long as their factories are busy making rockets they don't really care what the payload may be. Nukes or satellites or astronauts, whatever, it's all the same. In the end taxpayer money flows into their pockets.
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