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Oct 13, 2014 10:02 PM CST drugs & politics
redo416
redo416redo416san juan, San Juan/Laventille Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 859 Posts
I think they should there is a lot of corruption in politics most politician think they are above the law!!
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Oct 13, 2014 10:03 PM CST drugs & politics
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
It seems to me when I look at all the communists

in the American Senate, that most the dems and some rep look like they are on drugs

there is something wrong...It sends the wrong message to

younger folks and promotes irresponsibility and

only lines the pockets of drug laundering banks

who fund this stuff... answer obvious
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Oct 13, 2014 10:06 PM CST drugs & politics
redo416
redo416redo416san juan, San Juan/Laventille Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 859 Posts
crayons: It seems to me when I look at all the communists

in the American Senate, that most the dems and some rep look like they are on drugs

there is something wrong...It sends the wrong message to

younger folks and promotes irresponsibility and

only lines the pockets of drug laundering banks

who fund this stuff... answer obvious
very good point no wonder the drug cartels keep getting bigger!!
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Oct 13, 2014 10:12 PM CST drugs & politics
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
in the US it has been reported

that US banks laundered more than

800 billion dollars in drug money

then there was the arming of cartels in mexico

a light needs to be shined on this..

It hurts the innocent of all

countries and races period.
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Oct 13, 2014 10:13 PM CST drugs & politics
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
in 2012... that was the report am working so

have to stop for awhile
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Oct 13, 2014 10:16 PM CST drugs & politics
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
If they can test a working class American for drugs I see no reason not to test our elected officals.
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Oct 14, 2014 12:46 AM CST drugs & politics
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
After Laundering $800 Million in Drug Money, How Did HSBC Executives Avoid Jail?

edit detail,,, cuase they pay for all the them bonuses and perks

the banking giant HSBC has escaped indictment for laundering billions of dollars for Mexican drug cartels and groups linked to al-Qaeda. Despite evidence of wrongdoing, the U.S. Department of Justice has allowed the bank to avoid prosecution and pay a $1.9 billion fine. No top HSBC officials will face charges, either. We’re joined by Rolling Stone contributing editor Matt Taibbi, author of "Griftopia: A Story of Bankers, Politicians, and the Most Audacious Power Grab in American History." "You can do real time in jail in America for all kinds of ridiculous offenses," Taibbi says. "Here we have a bank that laundered $800 million of drug money, and they can’t find a way to put anybody in jail for that. That sends an incredible message, not just to the financial sector but to everybody. It’s an obvious, clear double standard, where one set of people gets to break the rules as much as they want and another set of people can’t break any rules at all without going to jail." [includes rush transcript]
Transcript

This is a rush transcript. Copy may not be in its final form.

JUAN GONZÁLEZ: Well, let’s go on to HSBC. The banking giant has escaped indictment for laundering billions of dollars for Mexican drug cartels and groups linked to al-Qaeda. The bank reportedly supplied a billion dollars to a firm whose founder had ties to al-Qaeda and shipped billions in cash from Mexico to the United States despite warnings the money was coming from drug cartels. Earlier this year, a Senate investigation concluded that HSBC provided a, quote, "gateway for terrorists to gain access to U.S. dollars and the U.S. financial system."

Despite evidence of wrongdoing, the Justice Department has allowed the bank to avoid prosecution and pay a $1.9 billion fine. No top HSBC officials will face charges. While it’s reportedly the largest penalty ever paid by a bank, the deal has come under wide criticism. Officials reportedly agreed to seek the fine over concerns that criminal charges would have hurt the global financial system.

Loretta Lynch is U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York.

LORETTA LYNCH: We are here today to announce the filing of criminal charges against HSBC Bank, both its U.S. entity, HSBC U.S., and the parent HSBC group, for its sustained and systemic failure to guard against the corruption of our financial system by drug traffickers and other criminals and for evading U.S. sanctions law. HSBC, as you know, is one of the largest financial institutions in the world, with affiliates and personnel spanning the globe. Yet during the relevant time periods, they failed to comply with the legal requirements incumbent on all U.S. financial institutions to have in place compliance mechanisms and safeguards to guard against being used for money laundering.

HSBC has admitted its guilt to the four-count information filed today, which sets forth two violations of the Bank Secrecy Act, a violation of the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, or IEEPA, and violation of the Trading with the Enemy Act. As part of its resolution of these charges, HSBC has agreed to forfeit $1.256 billion, the largest forfeiture amount ever by a financial institution for a compliance failure.
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Oct 14, 2014 12:54 AM CST drugs & politics
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
and have you noticed no one went to jail

and a small penalty fine like that

tells you what???

I guess if your a real big thief then you get a get out of jail free pass...
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Oct 14, 2014 12:58 AM CST drugs & politics
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
"""Politicians they are above the Law""???


Most of them think,are the law.
redo416: I think they should there is a lot of corruption in politics most politician think they are above the law!!
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Oct 14, 2014 1:36 AM CST drugs & politics
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
yeah thats just one laundomat theres 4 more that have

pretty soapy numbers too
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Oct 14, 2014 2:51 AM CST drugs & politics
redo416
redo416redo416san juan, San Juan/Laventille Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 859 Posts
crayons: in the US it has been reported

that US banks laundered more than

800 billion dollars in drug money

then there was the arming of cartels in mexico

a light needs to be shined on this..

It hurts the innocent of all

countries and races period.
make me wonder sometimes who the real drug dealers are dc or the banks maybe
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Oct 14, 2014 2:53 AM CST drugs & politics
redo416
redo416redo416san juan, San Juan/Laventille Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 859 Posts
crayons: in 2012... that was the report am working so

have to stop for awhile
am on work to no hard feelings!!
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Oct 14, 2014 2:57 AM CST drugs & politics
redo416
redo416redo416san juan, San Juan/Laventille Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 859 Posts
Ccincy: If they can test a working class American for drugs I see no reason not to test our elected officals.
I think so to and if the test is positive he or she should be fire form office asap!!
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Oct 14, 2014 3:01 AM CST drugs & politics
redo416
redo416redo416san juan, San Juan/Laventille Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 859 Posts
chris27292729: """Politicians they are above the Law""??? Most of them think,are the law.
to many times we vote for them and they use public money for their own use what a shame!!
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Oct 14, 2014 3:28 AM CST drugs & politics
redo416
redo416redo416san juan, San Juan/Laventille Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 859 Posts
crayons: After Laundering $800 Million in Drug Money, How Did HSBC Executives Avoid Jail?

edit detail,,, cuase they pay for all the them bonuses and perks

the banking giant HSBC has escaped indictment for laundering billions of dollars for Mexican drug cartels and groups linked to al-Qaeda. Despite evidence of wrongdoing, the U.S. Department of Justice has allowed the bank to avoid prosecution and pay a $1.9 billion fine. No top HSBC officials will face charges, either. We’re joined by Rolling Stone contributing editor Matt Taibbi, author of "Griftopia: A Story of Bankers, Politicians, and the Most Audacious Power Grab in American History." "You can do real time in jail in America for all kinds of ridiculous offenses," Taibbi says. "Here we have a bank that laundered $800 million of drug money, and they can’t find a way to put anybody in jail for that. That sends an incredible message, not just to the financial sector but to everybody. It’s an obvious, clear double standard, where one set of people gets to break the rules as much as they want and another set of people can’t break any rules at all without going to jail." [includes rush transcript]
Transcript

This is a rush transcript. Copy may not be in its final form.

JUAN GONZÁLEZ: Well, let’s go on to HSBC. The banking giant has escaped indictment for laundering billions of dollars for Mexican drug cartels and groups linked to al-Qaeda. The bank reportedly supplied a billion dollars to a firm whose founder had ties to al-Qaeda and shipped billions in cash from Mexico to the United States despite warnings the money was coming from drug cartels. Earlier this year, a Senate investigation concluded that HSBC provided a, quote, "gateway for terrorists to gain access to U.S. dollars and the U.S. financial system."

Despite evidence of wrongdoing, the Justice Department has allowed the bank to avoid prosecution and pay a $1.9 billion fine. No top HSBC officials will face charges. While it’s reportedly the largest penalty ever paid by a bank, the deal has come under wide criticism. Officials reportedly agreed to seek the fine over concerns that criminal charges would have hurt the global financial system.

Loretta Lynch is U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York.

LORETTA LYNCH: We are here today to announce the filing of criminal charges against HSBC Bank, both its U.S. entity, HSBC U.S., and the parent HSBC group, for its sustained and systemic failure to guard against the corruption of our financial system by drug traffickers and other criminals and for evading U.S. sanctions law. HSBC, as you know, is one of the largest financial institutions in the world, with affiliates and personnel spanning the globe. Yet during the relevant time periods, they failed to comply with the legal requirements incumbent on all U.S. financial institutions to have in place compliance mechanisms and safeguards to guard against being used for money laundering.

HSBC has admitted its guilt to the four-count information filed today, which sets forth two violations of the Bank Secrecy Act, a violation of the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, or IEEPA, and violation of the Trading with the Enemy Act. As part of its resolution of these charges, HSBC has agreed to forfeit $1.256 billion, the largest forfeiture amount ever by a financial institution for a compliance failure.
the justice department is a total failure when it comes to prosecution of those big banks and drugs money in this case you let the big fish go and catch the small fish ! no wonder why drugs is taking over !!
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Oct 14, 2014 3:35 AM CST drugs & politics
redo416
redo416redo416san juan, San Juan/Laventille Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 859 Posts
crayons: and have you noticed no one went to jail

and a small penalty fine like that

tells you what???

I guess if your a real big thief then you get a get out of jail free pass...
it helps if you got friends in office too!
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Oct 14, 2014 3:40 AM CST drugs & politics
BTW,who would be passing that Law?
The Politicians,right?
Good luck getting it passed!laugh
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Oct 14, 2014 4:07 AM CST drugs & politics
redo416
redo416redo416san juan, San Juan/Laventille Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 859 Posts
Conrad73: BTW,who would be passing that Law?
The Politicians,right?
Good luck getting it passed!
sir we vote them in we can vote them out to me its people power that talks to many times the people fail to use that power!!
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Oct 14, 2014 11:51 AM CST drugs & politics
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
Conrad73: BTW,who would be passing that Law?
The Politicians,right?
Good luck getting it passed!


what law we talkin about Col.?
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Oct 14, 2014 12:02 PM CST drugs & politics
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
edit detail... for those who don't know mcallen sits on the rio

in south Texas...the borders are left open for these type of

operations BUT I suspect that this guy was Not part of the
Lucy Club and being used as a patsy... most big loads hauled on semis with cantaloupes and other vegetables so this is small potatoes... ...


Federal Employee Caught Picking Up Drug Loads on the Job, Feds Say

by Ildefonso Ortiz 14 Oct 2014, 5:24 AM PDT post a comment
MCALLEN, Texas -- An employee with the U.S. Department of Agriculture is believed to have been using his work vehicle and his job as a cover to pick up drugs at the Texas Border.

Court records obtained by Breitbart-Texas show that federal agents and local police arrested 27-year-old Mario Guadalupe Saenz at a shopping center in this border city where he was expected to deliver the drugs.

The arrest comes after authorities carried out a surveillance operation where they saw Saenz drive his work truck around the border fence towards a brushy area from where he picked up a duffel bag that had several bricks that ended up being approximately 20 pounds of cocaine.

Agents with Homeland Security Investigations, USDA’s Inspector General and McAllen Police arrested Saenz at the business parking lot seizing the bag with drugs and finding a .40 caliber handgun with two loaded magazines in the vehicle. Since Saenz had previous felony convictions he is not able to legally possess a weapon and had been serving a probation term, court records show.

Saenz has been charged with possession of more than 5 kilograms of cocaine with intent to distribute an with possession of a firearm by a felon, if convicted he faces a possible life term in prison. During questioning by agents, Saenz told them that the gun was his and he would go to the shooting range to practice with it.

During the interview the USDA employee said that as part of his job he would cross the border fence to inspect orchards in the area and that he would collect marijuana. On the day that he was arrested Saenz thought he was picking up a marijuana load but it was in fact cocaine. He expected to get from $100 to $200 for delivering the bag with drugs.
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