Tolerance and Intolerance... (96)
jac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts...Should we be tolerant, or intolerant of intolerance?
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jac_the_gripper: ...Should we be tolerant, or intolerant of intolerance?
Oh Hi Jac. I missed you around the forum.
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Hmm had to look this up to take a look at the definition.
Definition: unwillingness to accept views, beliefs, or behavior that differ from one's own.
After I looked at it I'd have to say let people be who they want to be and end up where they are by there own ways, beliefs, views and behavior so long as they are not trying to impose physical harm or get in the way of another leaving. I say if you don't like what someone else believes don't hang out with them. But, surely let them dig their own ditch.
Definition: unwillingness to accept views, beliefs, or behavior that differ from one's own.
After I looked at it I'd have to say let people be who they want to be and end up where they are by there own ways, beliefs, views and behavior so long as they are not trying to impose physical harm or get in the way of another leaving. I say if you don't like what someone else believes don't hang out with them. But, surely let them dig their own ditch.
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career30: Hmm had to look this up to take a look at the definition.
Definition: unwillingness to accept views, beliefs, or behavior that differ from one's own.
After I looked at it I'd have to say let people be who they want to be and end up where they are by there own ways, beliefs, views and behavior so long as they are not trying to impose physical harm or get in the way of another leaving. I say if you don't like what someone else believes don't hang out with them. But, surely let them dig their own ditch.
Definition: unwillingness to accept views, beliefs, or behavior that differ from one's own.
After I looked at it I'd have to say let people be who they want to be and end up where they are by there own ways, beliefs, views and behavior so long as they are not trying to impose physical harm or get in the way of another leaving. I say if you don't like what someone else believes don't hang out with them. But, surely let them dig their own ditch.
Should we tolerate the imposition of non-physical harm?
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jac_the_gripper: Should we tolerate the imposition of non-physical harm?
Non-Physical..*harm* can also be open to interpretation, what one sees as the goose ..another may see as the Gander, all on circumstance really...
and whether or not one is stepping over the line...
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It is too wide a question.
I may be tolerant of the some belief or ideals that I don't follow, but I see as harmless.
I may not be as tolerant with a belief or idea I feel is not harmless.
Some belief systems or ideals, although I may not have any interest in myself, I cam still see as a positive.
Others, I see as a negative, and therefore would be less tolerant.
I may be tolerant of the some belief or ideals that I don't follow, but I see as harmless.
I may not be as tolerant with a belief or idea I feel is not harmless.
Some belief systems or ideals, although I may not have any interest in myself, I cam still see as a positive.
Others, I see as a negative, and therefore would be less tolerant.
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skippyguy: Non-Physical..*harm* can also be open to interpretation, what one sees as the goose ..another may see as the Gander, all on circumstance really...
and whether or not one is stepping over the line...
and whether or not one is stepping over the line...
So, who gets to decide what should be tolerated?
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mollybaby: It is too wide a question.
I may be tolerant of the some belief or ideals that I don't follow, but I see as harmless.
I may not be as tolerant with a belief or idea I feel is not harmless.
Some belief systems or ideals, although I may not have any interest in myself, I cam still see as a positive.
Others, I see as a negative, and therefore would be less tolerant.
I may be tolerant of the some belief or ideals that I don't follow, but I see as harmless.
I may not be as tolerant with a belief or idea I feel is not harmless.
Some belief systems or ideals, although I may not have any interest in myself, I cam still see as a positive.
Others, I see as a negative, and therefore would be less tolerant.
Golly Molly, might that count as an intolerance of the breadth of the question?
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it's a trick question?
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jac_the_gripper: Golly Molly, might that count as an intolerance of the breadth of the question?
No, I am being tolerant and allowing the OP to improve it
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jac_the_gripper: So, who gets to decide what should be tolerated?
I do !
, well i think it's different for everyone, like i think i am more tolerant then some i know, but yes there is alot of width and breadth in this question------ This thread is Archived ------
mollybaby: No, I am being tolerant and allowing the OP to improve it
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The precept: “Judge not, that ye be not judged” . . . is an abdication of moral responsibility: it is a moral blank check one gives to others in exchange for a moral blank check one expects for oneself.
There is no escape from the fact that men have to make choices; so long as men have to make choices, there is no escape from moral values; so long as moral values are at stake, no moral neutrality is possible. To abstain from condemning a torturer, is to become an accessory to the torture and murder of his victims.
The moral principle to adopt in this issue, is: “Judge, and be prepared to be judged.”
The opposite of moral neutrality is not a blind, arbitrary, self-righteous condemnation of any idea, action or person that does not fit one’s mood, one’s memorized slogans or one’s snap judgment of the moment. Indiscriminate tolerance and indiscriminate condemnation are not two opposites: they are two variants of the same evasion. To declare that “everybody is white” or “everybody is black” or “everybody is neither white nor black, but gray,” is not a moral judgment, but an escape from the responsibility of moral judgment.
To judge means: to evaluate a given concrete by reference to an abstract principle or standard. It is not an easy task; it is not a task that can be performed automatically by one’s feelings, “instincts” or hunches. It is a task that requires the most precise, the most exacting, the most ruthlessly objective and rational process of thought. It is fairly easy to grasp abstract moral principles; it can be very difficult to apply them to a given situation, particularly when it involves the moral character of another person. When one pronounces moral judgment, whether in praise or in blame, one must be prepared to answer “Why?” and to prove one’s case—to oneself and to any rational inquirer.
“How Does One Lead a Rational Life in an Irrational Society,”
The Virtue of Selfishness, 72
RAND
There is no escape from the fact that men have to make choices; so long as men have to make choices, there is no escape from moral values; so long as moral values are at stake, no moral neutrality is possible. To abstain from condemning a torturer, is to become an accessory to the torture and murder of his victims.
The moral principle to adopt in this issue, is: “Judge, and be prepared to be judged.”
The opposite of moral neutrality is not a blind, arbitrary, self-righteous condemnation of any idea, action or person that does not fit one’s mood, one’s memorized slogans or one’s snap judgment of the moment. Indiscriminate tolerance and indiscriminate condemnation are not two opposites: they are two variants of the same evasion. To declare that “everybody is white” or “everybody is black” or “everybody is neither white nor black, but gray,” is not a moral judgment, but an escape from the responsibility of moral judgment.
To judge means: to evaluate a given concrete by reference to an abstract principle or standard. It is not an easy task; it is not a task that can be performed automatically by one’s feelings, “instincts” or hunches. It is a task that requires the most precise, the most exacting, the most ruthlessly objective and rational process of thought. It is fairly easy to grasp abstract moral principles; it can be very difficult to apply them to a given situation, particularly when it involves the moral character of another person. When one pronounces moral judgment, whether in praise or in blame, one must be prepared to answer “Why?” and to prove one’s case—to oneself and to any rational inquirer.
“How Does One Lead a Rational Life in an Irrational Society,”
The Virtue of Selfishness, 72
RAND
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One should not be dogmatic on any matters.
The discussion should continue.
The discussion should continue.
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crayons: it's a trick question?
Maybe it would be more tolerant to describe it as a tricky question.
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mollybaby: We call them Sassanachs
They just called you a Lowlander Tru.....I have never anyone as Higher esteem as you
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skippyguy: http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?36270-What-s-a-Sassanach
They just called you a Lowlander Tru.....I have never anyone as Higher esteem as you
They just called you a Lowlander Tru.....I have never anyone as Higher esteem as you
More an Englander really
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mollybaby: No, I am being tolerant and allowing the OP to improve it
The OP is leaving room for others.
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mollybaby: More an Englander really
O M G
That's Even Worse
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skippyguy: O M G
That's Even Worse
That's Even Worse
Yet more intolerance from the self-proclaimed tolerant guy
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