Fair or unfair? (118)
FriskyoneSanta Fe, New Mexico USA271 Threads 26 Polls 4,631 PostsIn the U.S. 23 states have legalized marijuana. In your opinion, would it be fair for someone living in one of those states to be fired from their job for smoking it? Why or why not?
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Friskyone: In the U.S. 23 states have legalized marijuana. In your opinion, would it be fair for someone living in one of those states to be fired from their job for smoking it? Why or why not?
If is it for fun? or medical only,
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bungallow55: If is it for fun? or medical only,
For their personal use, not for medical reasons. Good question, thank you.------ This thread is Archived ------
Alcohol is presumably also legal.
Would they be fired from their jobs for drinking?
Would they be fired from their jobs for drinking?
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Friskyone: In the U.S. 23 states have legalized marijuana. In your opinion, would it be fair for someone living in one of those states to be fired from their job for smoking it? Why or why not?
It should be the law, which it is, not to be intoxicated inthe workplace. Just as Alcohol is legal, but is not tolerated in the
work place. Although I am an advocate for it not to be a crime anymore.
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Friskyone: For their personal use, not for medical reasons. Good question, thank you.
Then smoking weed on the job could be dangerous for the smoker
and her/his co-workers, accidents must be prevented
but if the boss is caught smoking, then boss can't complaint
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bungallow55: Then smoking weed on the job could be dangerous for the smoker
and her/his co-workers, accidents must be prevented
but if the boss is caught smoking, then boss can't complaint
and her/his co-workers, accidents must be prevented
but if the boss is caught smoking, then boss can't complaint
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So smoking on the job should obviously not be tolerated but if a person is smoking on their time off, what's your opinion then?
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pedalguy59: It should be the law, which it is, not to be intoxicated in
the workplace. Just as Alcohol is legal, but is not tolerated in the
work place. Although I am an advocate for it not to be a crime anymore.
the workplace. Just as Alcohol is legal, but is not tolerated in the
work place. Although I am an advocate for it not to be a crime anymore.
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Friskyone: In the U.S. 23 states have legalized marijuana. In your opinion, would it be fair for someone living in one of those states to be fired from their job for smoking it? Why or why not?
imo, they shouldn't be fired from their job for smoking or drinking anything on their own time, unless they arrive at the job under either influence.
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Friskyone: So smoking on the job should obviously not be tolerated but if a person is smoking on their time off, what's your opinion then?
Just walked the Dog in the woods and had a puff, anyway, I forgot
your question.
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pedalguy59: It should be the law, which it is, not to be intoxicated in
the workplace. Just as Alcohol is legal, but is not tolerated in the
work place. Although I am an advocate for it not to be a crime anymore.
the workplace. Just as Alcohol is legal, but is not tolerated in the
work place. Although I am an advocate for it not to be a crime anymore.
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In response to: In the U.S. 23 states have legalized marijuana. In your opinion, would it be fair for someone living in one of those states to be fired from their job for smoking it? Why or why not?
I have experience with this subject.
I was a service manager for an automotive subsidiary of ITT in Kentucky. I had 5 men working for me. One of them was a man I brought with me from Virginia when the facility was first created. This guy use to go home for lunch which included a couple of beers.
One day after lunch he picked up where he left off testing a batch of railway shocks on our brand new testing machine, a machine which took over a year to build and cost about $20,000.00. He apparently forgot that he never adjusted the stroke of the machine to match the stroke of the shock and turned the machine on. There was a tremendous bang. The precision torsion bar that measured the force of the shock was twisted beyond repair and the machine was rendered unusable. This meant we could no longer test railway shocks for such Co's as Trailer-Train, Amtrak, Bombardier, CNR, Electromotive etc. The only way we could service these accounts was to ship all the shocks to the factory in Holland at our expense or lose these customers to our competitors amounting to a multi million dollar loss.
So the the danger of intoxicated employees is not only to people, but to expensive, irreplaceable equipment and the business itself which includes all the jobs that goes with it.
I fired the man on the spot which was a shame because he had a wife and baby. I'd heard he went back to VA and moved in with his mother.
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Friskyone: In the U.S. 23 states have legalized marijuana. In your opinion, would it be fair for someone living in one of those states to be fired from their job for smoking it? Why or why not?
OMG! 23 states?
I counted 4... Where the heck have i been?
Is Illinois one of them?
I really should get out more!
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Friskyone: In the U.S. 23 states have legalized marijuana. In your opinion, would it be fair for someone living in one of those states to be fired from their job for smoking it? Why or why not?
do you mean like if they lived over the state line? It is not a matter of fairness. Individuals need to follow work place policy regarding any drugs.
What they do outside of work is another thing. They should be more concerned about remembering where they are because I do not think there is any "immunity" once they cross the state line into a place where it is still illegal.
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mollybaby: Alcohol is presumably also legal.
Would they be fired from their jobs for drinking?
Would they be fired from their jobs for drinking?
on company time or during the work day, often yes , they could well be...at least here in the states. now when I lived in Germany, most had a beer on lunch as I recall. That was also a long time ago too.
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galrads: imo, they shouldn't be fired from their job for smoking or drinking anything on their own time, unless they arrive at the job under either influence.
The local industries test people each morning when they come in for drugs and alcohol and if you are still intoxicated you are send home with a warning and no pay. If it happens again you are fired.
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Friskyone: So smoking on the job should obviously not be tolerated but if a person is smoking on their time off, what's your opinion then?
Perhaps the issue is the state, or perceived state of psycho-activity.
We accept cafeine and nicotine usage in the workplace, as well as other psycho-active substances because we don't perceive them as having a potential negative impact.
Imbibing alcohol in our own time is not perceived as having a potential negative impact, as long as there is none, or little remaining in our system by the time we are at work. Marijuana, however, takes much longer to metabolise and can remain in our system for up to a month.
Just as with having legal limits of alcohol in the blood for driving (although that in itself is controversial given the moment there is a measurable amount of alcohol in the blood, there is a measureable detriment in driving performance) should we have a better understanding of the impact of marijuana usage and some kind of legal limit of substances in the system in certain situations?
Also, if an employee is contracted to not be under the influence of certain psycho-active substances in the workplace, then whether those substances are legal, or not, the employer has the right to terminate. I have noticed contracts are getting less and less popular however.
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Friskyone: In the U.S. 23 states have legalized marijuana. In your opinion, would it be fair for someone living in one of those states to be fired from their job for smoking it? Why or why not?
This is very simple - if there is a no drugs policy with your job then yes you can be. However, are employers in neighboring states that have legalized recreational marijuana, and you go there, smoke legally and return to work, does your job have the right to drug test you and fire you?
Interesting question now.
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pedalguy59: Just walked the Dog in the woods and had a puff, anyway, I forgot
your question.
your question.
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