Should fat people pay more on public transport? (100)

Dec 22, 2014 9:53 AM CST Should fat people pay more on public transport?
stanley8monline today!
stanley8monline today!stanley8mkildare, Kildare Ireland211 Threads 10 Polls 8,747 Posts
onwards: Ah stanley we are talking about the here and now , So you think those that are chubby should be starved My daughter is naturally chubby what you say to that. She dosent eat choc or drink fiz drink or eat macdonalds. she eats fish chicken salad and all this is grilled.Now perhaps it might be down to the individuals immune system.


The body can not store excess fat if it isn't consumed by the individual, likewise, if an appropriate exercise regime is adopted in correlation with calorie intake, the person cannot become obese. handshake
Dec 22, 2014 11:24 AM CST Should fat people pay more on public transport?
big girls dont cry, they comfort eatgrin
Dec 22, 2014 1:23 PM CST Should fat people pay more on public transport?
freeman65: Universal health care. If you inplement a fat tax ,you've gotta implement a sailing tax (to cover air &sea rescue).


Yep, UHC is a step up for sure, but it wont be a game changer in altering peoples minds at the doors with the double arches....
Money is the leveller, could i suggest that a considerable number of people dont smoke any more for the simple reason, it got to costly, and look at the shift in the alcahol culture, the drinking at home before going out on a friday night, another cost saving gambit, and petrol, the way we have for some time now condensed our journeying to save the cost of fuel (and yes, i would conceed time as well)...
Putting a tax on ALL take away's and fast food outlets would be a sensible move in my opinion, A, sending out a message that 'fast food' is in the dock from a health standpoint and B, raising revenue for the exchequer, to spend on frontline medical necessities (what right minded person wold have an issue with that?)...
I would say, I agree with molly on the point of 'education', make personal and familial nutrition a keypoint in second level education...
As for sailing and any number of other pastimes or eventualities tax, i get your point but lets be honest, the cost to the health sevice and the public purse from 'sailing misadventures' and their ilk would be a *drop in the ocean* by comparison... [sorry bout that, but i couldn't resist].....
Dec 22, 2014 1:55 PM CST Should fat people pay more on public transport?
emerald888: Here is another one.......Do you have children Molly?

Children go through phases of being chubby......did you know that. Then they out grow it.

Even people living on carers allowance are aware of the food groups that are best for our children . Nothing to do with ignorance.....some children are more tolerant to different food groups. Of course you knew that too.

I have 20 children pass these doors every week.......8 can't tolerate the food I give them on a sleepover.......I know it.....what do I do ....write a note to parents.....some children can eat anything served.....We now do home made pizza's, salad.....kids make everything.

I know where children have intolerances to certain foods....you can see it.....I can only produce healthy opinions and kiddy friendly.


I agree with you.

Healthy eating is the way to go.

You are doing it the right way.
Homemade food - pizzas, salad etc., is a much healthier option than processed food which is drowned in sugar, salts and other poisonous additives.

Unfortunately, not all parents and adults are as aware, which is why there is the growing obesity problem.

The next generation is forecasted to be the first to live a shorter life than the generations before it, due to unhealthy eating habits. We have to stop that happening. We owe it to the kids.
Dec 22, 2014 1:59 PM CST Should fat people pay more on public transport?
uptall
uptalluptallQuiet village..., Durham, England UK73 Threads 2 Polls 18,622 Posts
mollybaby: I agree with you.

Healthy eating is the way to go.

You are doing it the right way.
Homemade food - pizzas, salad etc., is a much healthier option than processed food which is drowned in sugar, salts and other poisonous additives.

Unfortunately, not all parents and adults are as aware, which is why there is the growing obesity problem.

The next generation is forecasted to be the first to live a shorter life than the generations before it, due to unhealthy eating habits. We have to stop that happening. We owe it to the kids.




mumbling Bugger that just put me off my burger & drinking
Dec 22, 2014 2:04 PM CST Should fat people pay more on public transport?
freeman65
freeman65freeman65Longford, Ireland608 Posts
About_Blank: Yep, UHC is a step up for sure, but it wont be a game changer in altering peoples minds at the doors with the double arches....
Money is the leveller, could i suggest that a considerable number of people dont smoke any more for the simple reason, it got to costly, and look at the shift in the alcahol culture, the drinking at home before going out on a friday night, another cost saving gambit, and petrol, the way we have for some time now condensed our journeying to save the cost of fuel (and yes, i would conceed time as well)...
Putting a tax on ALL take away's and fast food outlets would be a sensible move in my opinion, A, sending out a message that 'fast food' is in the dock from a health standpoint and B, raising revenue for the exchequer, to spend on frontline medical necessities (what right minded person wold have an issue with that?)...
I would say, I agree with molly on the point of 'education', make personal and familial nutrition a keypoint in second level education...
As for sailing and any number of other pastimes or eventualities tax, i get your point but lets be honest, the cost to the health sevice and the public purse from 'sailing misadventures' and their ilk would be a *drop in the ocean* by comparison... [sorry bout that, but i couldn't resist].....



Tax take aways and you only hide the problem
About_Blank: Yep, UHC is a step up for sure, but it wont be a game changer in altering peoples minds at the doors with the double arches....
Money is the leveller, could i suggest that a considerable number of people dont smoke any more for the simple reason, it got to costly, and look at the shift in the alcahol culture, the drinking at home before going out on a friday night, another cost saving gambit, and petrol, the way we have for some time now condensed our journeying to save the cost of fuel (and yes, i would conceed time as well)...
Putting a tax on ALL take away's and fast food outlets would be a sensible move in my opinion, A, sending out a message that 'fast food' is in the dock from a health standpoint and B, raising revenue for the exchequer, to spend on frontline medical necessities (what right minded person wold have an issue with that?)...
I would say, I agree with molly on the point of 'education', make personal and familial nutrition a keypoint in second level education...
As for sailing and any number of other pastimes or eventualities tax, i get your point but lets be honest, the cost to the health sevice and the public purse from 'sailing misadventures' and their ilk would be a *drop in the ocean* by comparison... [sorry bout that, but i couldn't resist].....



Tax take aways and you only hide the problem I.e drinking, still the bane of the health service.
Need to make it socially unacceptable as in tobacco.
So yes agree with moll, education is imperative.
Dec 22, 2014 2:22 PM CST Should fat people pay more on public transport?
Hardcore25
Hardcore25Hardcore25Dundalk, Louth Ireland256 Threads 14 Polls 9,755 Posts
slap the arse and ride the waves..nothing better then bending over a fat wan..its makes for a great rideireland
Dec 22, 2014 2:32 PM CST Should fat people pay more on public transport?
uptall: Bugger that just put me off my &


Like a home-made one??flirty
Dec 22, 2014 2:42 PM CST Should fat people pay more on public transport?
uptall
uptalluptallQuiet village..., Durham, England UK73 Threads 2 Polls 18,622 Posts
mollybaby: Like a home-made one??



That would be lovelybatting

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Dec 22, 2014 3:16 PM CST Should fat people pay more on public transport?
uptall: That would be lovely



Your wish is my command!

dancing




(That's me stirring the mixture! )
Dec 22, 2014 5:01 PM CST Should fat people pay more on public transport?
uptall
uptalluptallQuiet village..., Durham, England UK73 Threads 2 Polls 18,622 Posts
mollybaby: Your wish is my command!



(That's me stirring the mixture! )



Lovely, I'll get the drinks
Dec 23, 2014 6:08 AM CST Should fat people pay more on public transport?
freeman65: Tax take aways and you only hide the problemTax take aways and you only hide the problem I.e drinking, still the bane of the health service.
Need to make it socially unacceptable as in tobacco.
So yes agree with moll, education is imperative.


You say that, but as an aside on the topic, if you could see the mess left behind after a late nighter outside supermacs in Ennis, it might give rise to a different point of view...
Im not tarring all fast food outlets with the same brush, but littering is another byproduct of fast food culture...
I know its saying nothing about obesity, but its another mark on their copy-book...
Dec 23, 2014 7:15 AM CST Should fat people pay more on public transport?
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland104 Threads 14,241 Posts
Well I hope they let me on the bus with my big fat turkey

Under my arms,,,wonder will they charge me because my turkey needs a seat ,

chicken
Dec 23, 2014 7:26 AM CST Should fat people pay more on public transport?
peachmelba: Well I hope they let me on the bus with my big fat turkey

Under my arms,,,wonder will they charge me because my turkey needs a seat ,


You say that, but (trivia fact), Steve Howe, the guitarist with the rock group 'Yes' booked a seat on an atlantic flight for one 'Mr Gibson', the 'Mr Gibson' in question was in fact Steve's prized electric Gibson guitar which he didnt want put in the cargo hold!...
Dec 23, 2014 7:33 AM CST Should fat people pay more on public transport?
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland104 Threads 14,241 Posts
About_Blank: You say that, but (trivia fact), Steve Howe, the guitarist with the rock group 'Yes' booked a seat on an atlantic flight for one 'Mr Gibson', the 'Mr Gibson' in question was in fact Steve's prized electric Gibson guitar which he didnt want put in the cargo hold!...




laugh , Ah Feck that my turkey too big to sit on my knee,,I might walk with him,


dancing
Dec 23, 2014 7:46 AM CST Should fat people pay more on public transport?
henonpause
henonpausehenonpauseCork, Ireland69 Threads 2 Polls 2,360 Posts
I shall add my two cents with the hope that it does not offend anyone...

If you need to exercise to keep your weight down, your diet is wrong.

There is only ONE way you are overweight - eating too much for your metabolism's need. If you are living a sedentary lifestyle (which, let's face it, with X box and cold weather, most do...), then you don't need big plates of food.

Sporty people are not overweight; they burn off that which they consume.

So get up, get out, get walking, enjoy the blustering winds outdoors, it's great for the mind, the body and the soul.



sad flower
Dec 23, 2014 7:47 AM CST Should fat people pay more on public transport?
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland104 Threads 14,241 Posts
peachmelba: , Ah Feck that my turkey too big to sit on my knee,,I might walk with him,





Might shake a few calories off my turkey tho and I need him at his plumpest,


laugh ,


santa waving
Dec 23, 2014 7:52 AM CST Should fat people pay more on public transport?
Tinypaws
TinypawsTinypawsunknown, Longford Ireland20 Threads 1 Polls 559 Posts
I didn't read whole thread, apologies, just a few bits and pieces.

No, they should not have to pay extra, but I agree with Blank about taxing fast food. Overall though, I think there are many underlying reasons why people end obese. I often see parents reach for a pack of crisps or candy when a child cries, to comfort it, to shut it up. The connection between food and comfort gets drawn early this way. A cuddle costs no money, but time, and we are living hectic chased lives. I personally feel there is a lot of time for love missing, and especially children fall short.

And then of course there is the issue of people who are already the victim of our food abuse, often feeding their children wrong too, as I believe often unknowingly trying to create copies of themselves for a variety of subconscious reasons.
Dec 23, 2014 7:59 AM CST Should fat people pay more on public transport?
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland104 Threads 14,241 Posts
A lady in my hometown was very overweight. And was getting bigger all the time,,

She had no incentive to lose weight she had gone past caring ,,the firemen and ambulance men were called to her home on numerous occasions. When she had fallen and it took afew of them to lift her,


The poor woman, She took a fatal heart attack,




sad flower
Dec 23, 2014 8:02 AM CST Should fat people pay more on public transport?
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland104 Threads 14,241 Posts
peachmelba: A lady in my hometown was very overweight. And was getting bigger all the time,,

She had no incentive to lose weight she had gone past caring ,,the firemen and ambulance men were called to her home on numerous occasions. When she had fallen and it took afew of them to lift her,The poor woman, She took a fatal heart attack,





It's true she had been overweight for years but it got to the stage where she never left the house she couldn't,,
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