Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.??? ( Archived) (121)

Jan 7, 2015 12:25 PM CST Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
Todays attack in Paris by islamists,killing Frence satirical newspaper's cartoonists,for criticizing Islam and its Prophet,was justified???

Yes it was??


No it was not??
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Jan 7, 2015 12:25 PM CST Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
chris27292729: Todays attack in Paris by islamists,killing Frence satirical newspaper's cartoonists,for criticizing Islam and its Prophet,was justified???

Yes it was??


No it was not??


Absolutely justified. It's called "freedom of speech" thumbs up
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Jan 7, 2015 12:30 PM CST Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
unlaoised: Absolutely justified. It's called "freedom of speech"

Are you sure, i think you meant "unjustified.
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Jan 7, 2015 12:32 PM CST Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
unlaoised: Absolutely justified. It's called "freedom of speech"


it's called terrorism.
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Jan 7, 2015 12:34 PM CST Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
unlaoised: Absolutely justified. It's called "freedom of speech"


Woops, sorry, I only read the title of your thread doh

"unjustified" would not be a word I'd choose for today's "hit"

very mad very mad


sad flower
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Jan 7, 2015 12:43 PM CST Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
stringman: it's called terrorism.




Isn't the result of religious fanaticism, terrorism???dunno
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Jan 7, 2015 12:44 PM CST Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
chris27292729: Todays attack in Paris by islamists,killing Frence satirical newspaper's cartoonists,for criticizing Islam and its Prophet,was justified???

Yes it was??


No it was not??


I don't have much respect for the breed of person(s)usually behind these kind of cartoons, but they have the right even if they are not actually right.
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Jan 7, 2015 1:00 PM CST Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
It seems,we in the West,have the right to critisize,our main religion,which is Christiaty.As well we allow our citizens, non Christian or non religious believers, to critisize Christianity believers.
It seems to me this right,critisizing religion,is denied by the Islamists.-
Obstinance_Works: I don't have much respect for the breed of person(s)usually behind these kind of cartoons, but they have the right even if they are not actually right.
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Jan 7, 2015 1:03 PM CST Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
We all have a right to free speech, and we should use it wisely.
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Jan 7, 2015 1:05 PM CST Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland72 Threads 9,779 Posts
Freedom of speech is a persons right even if I think the cartoons in bad taste and disrespectful,


But to execute these people was an Easey target where these poor people were open and vunerable and targeted,

It is concerning that while fiancé are heavily involved in the Middle East that France was not on high security alert before this yet another tragedy happend.


sad flower
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Jan 7, 2015 1:07 PM CST Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland72 Threads 9,779 Posts
peachmelba: Freedom of speech is a persons right even if I think the cartoons in bad taste and disrespectful,But to execute these people was an Easey target where these poor people were open and vunerable and targeted,

It is concerning that while fiancé are heavily involved in the Middle East that France was not on high security alert before this yet another tragedy happend.





Sorry France.ipad acting up
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Jan 7, 2015 1:07 PM CST Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
I never followed the information being spreading around regarding the attack.

AS for free speech we only have as much free speech as countries will allow their citizens to have.
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Jan 7, 2015 1:08 PM CST Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
chris27292729: Todays attack in Paris by islamists,killing Frence satirical newspaper's cartoonists,for criticizing Islam and its Prophet,was justified???

Yes it was??


No it was not??

Without knowing the details, it doesn't look likely that the gunmen were in a position of self-defence, ergo the killings are not likely to be justifiable in my opinion.

As for your title question, it would depend upon the content of the material whether journalists and cartoonists have a right to criticise religion. If the material is propaganda, inciting hatred, or action to harm, then no, I'd say they don't have a right to do that.

If we were to look at WWII propaganda, journalism and cartoon images, I wonder how it would compare to current material.

I'm not sure we can just sit back and claim satire is always okay because we're the goodies and they're the baddies.
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Jan 7, 2015 1:12 PM CST Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
You mean NOT to offend??? and be tolerant???
What about,when the force people.with the ultimatum.
Convert or Die???dunno
mollybaby: We all have a right to free speech, and we should use it wisely.
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Jan 7, 2015 1:18 PM CST Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???
fearlessfred001
fearlessfred001fearlessfred001Salt Flat, TX, Texas USA66 Posts
Based on the koran, m cult and should be islam is a terrorism cult and should be destroyed. imo
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Jan 7, 2015 1:18 PM CST Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
chris27292729: Isn't the result of religious fanaticism, terrorism???


it's terrorism when when the fanatics go killing people.
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Jan 7, 2015 1:24 PM CST Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland72 Threads 9,779 Posts
chris27292729: You mean NOT to offend??? and be tolerant???
What about,when the force people.with the ultimatum.
Convert or Die???




Well that's not excercising freedom of speech is it chris that convert or die is an ultimatum and anyway they don't give all that choice do they.
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Jan 7, 2015 1:27 PM CST Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
we are all infidels in there eyes.
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Jan 7, 2015 1:27 PM CST Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
Ccincy: I never followed the information being spreading around regarding the attack.

AS for free speech we only have as much free speech as countries will allow their citizens to have.

Exercising their right of FREE SPEECH,on religious matters, 12 people,were murdered in France,and this is not Information,is a fact.confused
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Jan 7, 2015 1:36 PM CST Have journalist and cartoonists the right to critisize religion.???
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
Isn't satire in any form,included as a free speach???.
If someone,country,religious leaders,heads of states,don't like the satire,directed at them,they have the right,to raise the objections,either by diplomatic means,or go to court.
jac_the_gripper: Without knowing the details, it doesn't look likely that the gunmen were in a position of self-defence, ergo the killings are not likely to be justifiable in my opinion.

As for your title question, it would depend upon the content of the material whether journalists and cartoonists have a right to criticise religion. If the material is propaganda, inciting hatred, or action to harm, then no, I'd say they don't have a right to do that.

If we were to look at WWII propaganda, journalism and cartoon images, I wonder how it would compare to current material.

I'm not sure we can just sit back and claim satire is always okay because we're the goodies and they're the baddies.
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