What are your conditions to believe in God ? ( Archived) (37)

Feb 24, 2015 7:29 AM CST What are your conditions to believe in God ?
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland72 Threads 9,779 Posts
peachmelba: Actually I think atheists do have a god.

You see I look upon god as whatever that higher power is to each person,,ie whatever they place their faith and trust in bit like having a best mate without conditions,

Could be ones higher conscience,,could be nature ,could even be science,,

God is just a name we have on it ,




A higher power is something we just like to connect with and feels good in a spiritual sense that has nothing to do with religion or whether one says he believes in god or not,

That is just a name and everybody believes in something what their higher power I means to them,

It's a personal thing for a person for to have even if one not aware of it yet its there,
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Feb 24, 2015 7:59 AM CST What are your conditions to believe in God ?
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland72 Threads 9,779 Posts
peachmelba: Well are you Aware that AA that consists of religious,non religious,atheists have what is called the twelve steps programme where members choose whatever their higher power is to them,

This is all part of a spiritual process that leads to a persons recovery,

If people slip up in life a persons still has their higher power and that could even be members in an AA hall that their higher power could be ,

I do not want to keep elaborating on what god can mean to each person because it is personal ow ,



I might add that I have not said what my higher power god is to me only to say god has no beginning no end and I like to believe when our body dies are spirit dosnt,

I don't want to discuss this topic anymore but ill read some,

innocent devil
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Feb 24, 2015 8:01 AM CST What are your conditions to believe in God ?
equiya
equiyaequiyaunknown, Ontario Canada2 Threads 4,055 Posts
None. If I had evidence, then I'd know. I wouldn't have to "believe." Believe is what you do in the absence of knowledge.

Yessssssssssssss! thank you.

Hi Nidi handshake

dancing
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Feb 24, 2015 8:06 AM CST What are your conditions to believe in God ?
equiya: None. If I had evidence, then I'd know. I wouldn't have to "believe." Believe is what you do in the absence of knowledge.

Yessssssssssssss! thank you.

Hi Nidi
I don't have any knowledge of quantum physics or the russian language. Yet they both exist.

"Belief is what you do in the absence of knowledge" is not necessarily valid.
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Feb 24, 2015 8:07 AM CST What are your conditions to believe in God ?
equiya
equiyaequiyaunknown, Ontario Canada2 Threads 4,055 Posts
BigBamaQ: Proof, real evidence instead of claims from the bible.


yessssssss
thank you
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Feb 24, 2015 8:11 AM CST What are your conditions to believe in God ?
equiya
equiyaequiyaunknown, Ontario Canada2 Threads 4,055 Posts
uptall: If he lets me win the lotto I'll give that some thought...


me too
thanks

hahahaha
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Feb 24, 2015 8:18 AM CST What are your conditions to believe in God ?
Len05
Len05Len05Antwerp, Antwerpen Belgium33 Threads 11 Polls 972 Posts
In response to: Hi Friends
IF you don't believe in God , what are your conditions to believe in God?
1- .....
2- ....
3- ....
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So to make it easier !
I don't believe in a non-human sentient lifeform that guided (guides) 1 or 2 humans to write a book (or spread some truth).
- i think this is most people their view of GOD.
So question.
When would i believe that that non-human sentient lifeform did exist?

Answer:
Whatever comes out should be unachievable by any other human in any way.
And resurrection is weak, writing a book with some standards (no matter how revolutionary) is weak, advance science is weak, finding something to pray to is weak,

Witnessing telekinesis would work for me. or sealed exact prediction of the future (not the nostradamus hocus pocus). or a clear knowledge of the past that can be tested.
I'm still thinking if the lifeform is only afterlife ghosty related what it can uniquely manifest....

Would i fall on my knees for that lifeform if it asked me?
only with a gun to my head or equivalent. Or for a good salary or equivalent.
sorry to be a greedy self-protecting human.
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Feb 24, 2015 8:21 AM CST What are your conditions to believe in God ?
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
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Feb 24, 2015 8:22 AM CST What are your conditions to believe in God ?
equiya
equiyaequiyaunknown, Ontario Canada2 Threads 4,055 Posts
yubba: No conditions because l know 'it' never existed or will. We evolved without any high being. 'God' is a term for religion and religion means war and money. If anyone thinks l am wrong l have proof that only religious people owe my companies over 215,000€ and you have already seen the proof of what happens in Syria, Libya, Egypt, if you think religion is good then you should not be on my Planet!


AMEN
thanks
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Feb 24, 2015 9:28 AM CST What are your conditions to believe in God ?
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland72 Threads 9,779 Posts
Sometimes I feel my head is going to crack like an egg ,

A person s higher power could be the love for their children or spouse ,,

Thete are no conditions that have to say one as to be religious.

What's religion got to do with it,
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Feb 26, 2015 3:31 PM CST What are your conditions to believe in God ?
Len05
Len05Len05Antwerp, Antwerpen Belgium33 Threads 11 Polls 972 Posts
any vague prophecies should be written in original language at least.
You can always debate translations.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:20 PM CST What are your conditions to believe in God ?
Charlie2016
Charlie2016Charlie2016Ontario, Canada3 Threads 1 Polls 48 Posts
mohd1346: Hi Friends
IF you don't believe in God , what are your conditions to believe in God?
1- .....
2- ....
3- ....
......




1. Must grant me wishes.

2. Must shave.

3. Must lose the sandals.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:27 PM CST What are your conditions to believe in God ?
Bogart_1960
Bogart_1960Bogart_1960Ask me !, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France36 Threads 1 Polls 10,012 Posts
Charlie2016: 1. Must grant me wishes.

2. Must shave.

3. Must lose the sandals.


dam no, that's how I got my ex wife.....laugh barefoot always.

wine
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Mar 7, 2015 2:57 PM CST What are your conditions to believe in God ?
CapricornDancer
CapricornDancerCapricornDancerMelbourne, Victoria Australia2 Threads 1 Polls 152 Posts
peachmelba: Sometimes I feel my head is going to crack like an egg ,

A person s higher power could be the love for their children or spouse ,,

Thete are no conditions that have to say one as to be religious.

What's religion got to do with it,


Well said Peach!

Religion and belief in god are two separate issues. I don't believe in the god that our forebears made in our own image, but I have experienced a sense of unity with the universe during meditation .. to me that is experiencing 'god' on a very personal level. I don't need the socio-political institution that is religion to TELL ME what to believe.

Religion has been used as a means of motivating its adherents to war, and by demonizing the 'godless' opponent or by the old 'Our god is better than your god' argument, makes it easier to slaughter them. Politics in religion and religion in politics are not good mixtures.
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Apr 27, 2015 10:37 AM CST What are your conditions to believe in God ?
BigBamaQ
BigBamaQBigBamaQBirmingham, Alabama USA2 Threads 47 Posts
mohd1346: Hi
wise & logical answer
There is no doubt that you have the right to request proof and real evidences .

before i write some real evidences , would you please tell me what your belief’s grade is from the 5 grades mentioned below
1- you are sure 100% that there is no God (God = universe creator )
2- you doubt very much that there is no God(you are sure more than 50% & less than 100% that there is no God)
3- you don't know at all if there is a God or there isn't (50 50 doubt)
4- you doubt very much that there is a God ( you are sure more than 50% & less than 100% that there is a God)

5- you are 100% sure that there is a God


I simply have no evidence for the existence of a god thus disbelief is my default position. I cannot claim to know there is no god but have no reason to believe there is.
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Apr 27, 2015 10:43 AM CST What are your conditions to believe in God ?
BigBamaQ
BigBamaQBigBamaQBirmingham, Alabama USA2 Threads 47 Posts
peachmelba: Actually I think atheists do have a god.

You see I look upon god as whatever that higher power is to each person,,ie whatever they place their faith and trust in bit like having a best mate without conditions,

Could be ones higher conscience,,could be nature ,could even be science,,

God is just a name we have on it ,
Your statement is nonsensical and demonstrates your lack of understanding of what an atheist is.
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May 1, 2015 5:41 AM CST What are your conditions to believe in God ?
giftmagic
giftmagicgiftmagicadelaide, South Australia Australia25 Threads 690 Posts
mohd1346: Hi Friends
IF you don't believe in God , what are your conditions to believe in God?
1- .....
2- ....
3- ....
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not many. i've met it and at its request not mine.
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