Co-Pilot took Germanwings Flight 4U 9525 into it's demise (100)
Aphaea: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2015/03/26/395487114/focus-of-crash-investigation-shifts-to-pilots-of-germanwings-plane?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_content=20150326&utm_campaign=breakingnews&utm_term=nprnews What kind of security allows a pilot to have responsibility over hundreds of lives without a serious background check...especially after 9/11
In light of the circumstances globally shouldn't everyone be scrutinized under a microscope?
In light of the circumstances globally shouldn't everyone be scrutinized under a microscope?
As sad as it is this event will continue in other spheres. If all were to be scrutinized in such intensity with pyschriatric assessments on a regular basis or in depth study of your background the pressures alone of doing a certain type of job can be stressful let alone adding to it by putting one under a microscope.
For instance if your about to undergo an operation to enable your survival are you going to request that the surgeon put it in writing that they are not going to have a mental breakdown and decide to cut out your heart?
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Doctors are like a family, they watch out for one another and do have serious background examinations and psych evaluations regularly. Naturally anyone can hide or manufacture whatever persona they want and project that...fool many but it's not very usual...
but i get your point. However...with positions that hold lives in their hands..like Pilots and Law enforcement (able to shoot anytime) I think the time has come for a total revamping of protocol
but i get your point. However...with positions that hold lives in their hands..like Pilots and Law enforcement (able to shoot anytime) I think the time has come for a total revamping of protocol
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Aphaea: Doctors are like a family, they watch out for one another and do have serious background examinations and psych evaluations regularly. Naturally anyone can hide or manufacture whatever persona they want and project that...fool many but it's not very usual...
but i get your point. However...with positions that hold lives in their hands..like Pilots and Law enforcement (able to shoot anytime) I think the time has come for a total revamping of protocol
but i get your point. However...with positions that hold lives in their hands..like Pilots and Law enforcement (able to shoot anytime) I think the time has come for a total revamping of protocol
As you pointed out stringent rules already apply but how many who have broken the rules actually get punished severely enough so it never happens again? I have known Doctors to be struck off the Register but have practised elsewhere or moved countries. With global communication and movement of people throughout the world serious checks in background can be a monumental task especially refugees fleeing a terror zone where records are destroyed and permanently lost.
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it's HUGE Stedan.. ..and you are correct,the checks and network have to be in sync so cross referencing can track and control who is where.
so for the sake of the topic... Pilots in particular now will face certain scrutiny whether just deserved or not..as a matter of protocol...simply because hundreds of lives at a time are involved.
so for the sake of the topic... Pilots in particular now will face certain scrutiny whether just deserved or not..as a matter of protocol...simply because hundreds of lives at a time are involved.
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Aphaea: it's HUGE Stedan.. ..and you are correct,the checks and network have to be in sync so cross referencing can track and control who is where.
so for the sake of the topic... Pilots in particular now will face certain scrutiny whether just deserved or not..as a matter of protocol...simply because hundreds of lives at a time are involved.
so for the sake of the topic... Pilots in particular now will face certain scrutiny whether just deserved or not..as a matter of protocol...simply because hundreds of lives at a time are involved.
Using the same technique of finding out how many crashes or disasters of this type have occurred under similar circumstances will result in a % percentage not grave enough to affect any major changes in scrutiny. Yes with terrorists extra precautions have been introduced but in time something will happen again. We entrust our leadership in countries to prevent from loss of lives in wars but idiots abound the world.
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this is a video of how the Cockpit door locking system functions... poses some questions about why the Captain couldn't get in...
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Aphaea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixEHV7c3VXs
this is a video of how the Cockpit door locking system functions... poses some questions about why the Captain couldn't get in...
this is a video of how the Cockpit door locking system functions... poses some questions about why the Captain couldn't get in...
Watched this and yes if they have an overide code to get into the cockpit why wasnt it used or was it disabled from inside to prevent terrorist action? What was the time frame? Maybe the black box will indicate what went on but public knowledge wil be held back on this until facts confirmed.
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Stedan: Watched this and yes if they have an overide code to get into the cockpit why wasnt it used or was it disabled from inside to prevent terrorist action? What was the time frame? Maybe the black box will indicate what went on but public knowledge wil be held back on this until facts confirmed.
Apparently the override code can be deactivated from inside the flight deck, the co-pilot appears to have used this function to deny the captain access.
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Stedan: Watched this and yes if they have an overide code to get into the cockpit why wasnt it used or was it disabled from inside to prevent terrorist action? What was the time frame? Maybe the black box will indicate what went on but public knowledge wil be held back on this until facts confirmed.
yep :)
thanks Stedan ,for answering the post..it was my first one. :)
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Aphaea: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2015/03/26/395487114/focus-of-crash-investigation-shifts-to-pilots-of-germanwings-plane?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_content=20150326&utm_campaign=breakingnews&utm_term=nprnews What kind of security allows a pilot to have responsibility over hundreds of lives without a serious background check...especially after 9/11
In light of the circumstances globally shouldn't everyone be scrutinized under a microscope?
In light of the circumstances globally shouldn't everyone be scrutinized under a microscope?
5 Possible Causes Of The Germanwings Jetliner Crash
" An initial analysis of the cockpit voice recorder suggests one of the pilots was locked out of the cockpit at the time Flight 9525 began its final descent, and failed to get back in even after smashing the door. This revelation will almost certainly change the scope of the investigation, barring any indication it wasn't a deliberate act. (For instance, if the other pilot in the cockpit had a medical emergency.) If investigators suspect the act was deliberate, however, it's almost certain we can expect further changes to cockpit security measures."
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lifeisadream: 5 Possible Causes Of The Germanwings Jetliner Crash
" An initial analysis of the cockpit voice recorder suggests one of the pilots was locked out of the cockpit at the time Flight 9525 began its final descent, and failed to get back in even after smashing the door. This revelation will almost certainly change the scope of the investigation, barring any indication it wasn't a deliberate act. (For instance, if the other pilot in the cockpit had a medical emergency.) If investigators suspect the act was deliberate, however, it's almost certain we can expect further changes to cockpit security measures."
" An initial analysis of the cockpit voice recorder suggests one of the pilots was locked out of the cockpit at the time Flight 9525 began its final descent, and failed to get back in even after smashing the door. This revelation will almost certainly change the scope of the investigation, barring any indication it wasn't a deliberate act. (For instance, if the other pilot in the cockpit had a medical emergency.) If investigators suspect the act was deliberate, however, it's almost certain we can expect further changes to cockpit security measures."
Hiya Life
Its speculation until the black recording box is unearthed and details explored, for what ever reason a tragedy ensued and the loss of life horrendous.------ This thread is Archived ------
Stedan: Hiya Life Its speculation until the black recording box is unearthed and details explored, for what ever reason a tragedy ensued and the loss of life horrendous.
It is already known Stedan that a pilot was out of the cockpit and could not get in but what the reasons were?
My concern is that if it was a mechanical, technical, ...failure and they might be covering it up because of lawsuits and maintenance-service expenses.
What is easier and cheaper than to blame the pilots?
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bodleing2: Apparently the override code can be deactivated from inside the flight deck, the co-pilot appears to have used this function to deny the captain access.
so yea that's it in a black box.
kinda like playing Russian Roulette with flying anywhere ...geez
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Aphaea: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2015/03/26/395487114/focus-of-crash-investigation-shifts-to-pilots-of-germanwings-plane?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_content=20150326&utm_campaign=breakingnews&utm_term=nprnews What kind of security allows a pilot to have responsibility over hundreds of lives without a serious background check...especially after 9/11
In light of the circumstances globally shouldn't everyone be scrutinized under a microscope?
there was an international warning posted a few weeks back about this model of plane doing what this one has done if its sensors fail . With the speed of the released information about the pilot creates doubt and could well be covering up for a faulty plane . Since when has information been released with such speed about a plane crash .In light of the circumstances globally shouldn't everyone be scrutinized under a microscope?
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lifeisadream: It is already known Stedan that a pilot was out of the cockpit and could not get in but what the reasons were?
My concern is that if it was a mechanical, technical, ...failure and they might be covering it up because of lawsuits and maintenance-service expenses.
What is easier and cheaper than to blame the pilots?
My concern is that if it was a mechanical, technical, ...failure and they might be covering it up because of lawsuits and maintenance-service expenses.
What is easier and cheaper than to blame the pilots?
This is true to cast blame elsewhere to cover all bases but what is needed is the Truth and some of that will come from the box, until that is opened and discovery made we can only speculate.
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lifeisadream: It is already known Stedan that a pilot was out of the cockpit and could not get in but what the reasons were?
My concern is that if it was a mechanical, technical, ...failure and they might be covering it up because of lawsuits and maintenance-service expenses.
What is easier and cheaper than to blame the pilots?
My concern is that if it was a mechanical, technical, ...failure and they might be covering it up because of lawsuits and maintenance-service expenses.
What is easier and cheaper than to blame the pilots?
you present a very valuable perspective. They would have to weigh the costs and impact of people's reaction to it being a pilot , rogue or not , which is frightening enough eh?! to that of owning their human failure. which would run into crazy lawsuits and ruin the company brand anyway...
i would like to believe you called it...the other option is just too scary... :)
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He should have just killed himself if he wanted to die, no need to bring everyone else with him.
Those last few minutes must have been terrible for them.
Those last few minutes must have been terrible for them.
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In response to: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2015/03/26/395487114/focus-of-crash-investigation-shifts-to-pilots-of-germanwings-plane?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_content=20150326&utm_campaign=breakingnews&utm_term=nprnews What kind of security allows a pilot to have responsibility over hundreds of lives without a serious background check...especially after 9/11
In light of the circumstances globally shouldn't everyone be scrutinized under a microscope?
In light of the circumstances globally shouldn't everyone be scrutinized under a microscope?
Precisely locking of cockpits was one of the proposals to increase security after 9/11.
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Stedan: This is true to cast blame elsewhere to cover all bases but what is needed is the Truth and some of that will come from the box, until that is opened and discovery made we can only speculate.
Exactly, but the OP it is already blaming one of the pilots!
Why?
Brainwa$h?
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