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Apr 7, 2015 8:21 PM CST Fox news: discussion about NUKING A MUSLIM COUNTRY?
should we be afraid?
I came across this on Fox News.


Fox Guest: Rand Paul Must Prove He’d Nuke a Muslim Country if We Needed
by Andrew Kirell | 11:33 am, April 7th, 2015
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On Monday morning, Fox & Friends held a lively debate between Brad and Dallas Woodhouse, the modern (and very much bloodless) political equivalent of Civil War “brother against brother” battles.

Brad is a Democratic consultant and the head of American Bridge PAC; Dallas is a Republican strategist and founder of Carolina Rising. The siblings once reached minor fame when they were interrupted by a phone call from their mother during their dramatic C-SPAN battle.

For their joint Monday morning Fox appearance, the pair debated this very Fox & Friendsian question: “Which GOP contender has the Democrats most afraid?” And when the subject turned to Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) — seen by GOP foreign policy hawks as too non-interventionist — here’s what Republican Woodhouse had to say:

sort of worldview may not be fitting the world as a lot of people see it right now. He’s got to prove — in my opinion, Rand Paul’s got to prove that he will nuke a Muslim country if we have to. I’m not saying we should. But I’m saying we will do that if it takes saving America and that there’s no doubt that he will do what it takes to protect America.
“Thank God you’re not running for president,” Democratic Woodhouse said in response.

The blog Crooks & Liars picked up on the clip and just when you’d expect the conservative Woodhouse to suggest the famously liberal website took him out of context, he followed up on Facebook with an affirmation of his views:

“Damn right I said it,” he declared. “I of course meant that Rand Paul has to win over the American (and republican primary) voters on national security. At its core the GOP is a National Security Party. Period. We are not the blame America first crowd. That is my brothers side, not mine.”

“We don’t like war, I don’t like war. We hate war,” he continued. “However we need a POTUS who will do WHATEVER it takes to protect America and her friends including Israel. I never want to see another Nuke used, but If We HAD to like in WW2 then so be it. I want a President willing to keep the option of Nuking the enemy on the table rather than letting THEM get the bomb to terrorize us and threaten and possibility destroy Israel as we know it.”

He concluded: “America First. Whatever it takes. No matter what.”

(Quick question from your humble writer: How does one *prove* you’d nuke a Muslim country? Just say it three times and it magically becomes so?)

Watch the original clip below, via Fox News:(don't know how to upload it or I would have, but you can go to Fox news and get it.)

This is not my choice, nor would I wish it to be, but given the fact that it is being talked about perhaps we should be aware? Now tell me, must we? Or must we not?
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Apr 7, 2015 8:34 PM CST Fox news: discussion about NUKING A MUSLIM COUNTRY?
I definitely don't want to be misunderstood, but since this is a very sensitive and volatile induced discussion, I just want everyone to be aware.

We are in a world where things that are happening don't really look what it seems. At least to me. We might just go on with our simple and ordinary lives, but I feel that we are pushed to a wall where there is no turning back. Maybe I am wrong.. but you tell me.
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Apr 7, 2015 8:39 PM CST Fox news: discussion about NUKING A MUSLIM COUNTRY?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
If president billy Clinton could give away Military technological secrets to China w/o being shot as a traitor, I think president Obama should go ahead and give away all existing U.S. nuclear capability to China, Russia, and Muslim fanatics in the Middle East.

We don't need them anymore as a deterrent now that our military industrial base has developed newer more horrendous tactile weapons over the last decade or so.



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Apr 7, 2015 9:01 PM CST Fox news: discussion about NUKING A MUSLIM COUNTRY?
galrads: If president billy Clinton could give away Military technological secrets to China w/o being shot as a traitor, I think president Obama should go ahead and give away all existing U.S. nuclear capability to China, Russia, and Muslim fanatics in the Middle East.

We don't need them anymore as a deterrent now that our military industrial base has developed newer more horrendous tactile weapons over the last decade or so.


With our drones and distance capability, we should be able to just target the holes of these terrorists, but how long have we been trying to find them?

Now would this bring a better result? I don't know, but what does it take to end it? That is the question.l
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Apr 7, 2015 9:17 PM CST Fox news: discussion about NUKING A MUSLIM COUNTRY?
There is nothing in any military arsenal that can match the destructive power of a nuclear weapon. It doesn't frighten me. Mankind will either destroy itself or learn to rise above it.

We haven't been fighting anything except each other since the terrorist gained access to the white house. Terrorist factions world wide have gotten bolder and stronger.

It's not that we can't find them; it's that the terrorist in the white won't fight them. Iran gains nuclear capabilities, it could be worse than the threat in Korea.

It could very well come to nuclear war over some piss ant country because America itself grew more ignorant AND immoral all at once. At this point, we don't know anything for certain. Just the way marxist obama likes it. Like Israel; we might want to be ready.
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Apr 7, 2015 9:22 PM CST Fox news: discussion about NUKING A MUSLIM COUNTRY?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Draegoneer: There is nothing in any military arsenal that can match the destructive power of a nuclear weapon. It doesn't frighten me. Mankind will either destroy itself or learn to rise above it.

We haven't been fighting anything except each other since the terrorist gained access to the white house. Terrorist factions world wide have gotten bolder and stronger.

It's not that we can't find them; it's that the terrorist in the white won't fight them. Iran gains nuclear capabilities, it could be worse than the threat in Korea.

It could very well come to nuclear war over some piss ant country because America itself grew more ignorant AND immoral all at once. At this point, we don't know anything for certain. Just the way marxist obama likes it. Like Israel; we might want to be ready.


We now have developed technologies that can easily nullify nuclear threats that are airborne, under the oceans or land based. We don't need nukes anymore as a deterrent.
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Apr 7, 2015 9:24 PM CST Fox news: discussion about NUKING A MUSLIM COUNTRY?
Da_Moose
Da_MooseDa_MooseWestlock, Alberta Canada57 Threads 1,839 Posts
Draegoneer: There is nothing in any military arsenal that can match the destructive power of a nuclear weapon. It doesn't frighten me. Mankind will either destroy itself or learn to rise above it.

We haven't been fighting anything except each other since the terrorist gained access to the white house. Terrorist factions world wide have gotten bolder and stronger.

It's not that we can't find them; it's that the terrorist in the white won't fight them. Iran gains nuclear capabilities, it could be worse than the threat in Korea.

It could very well come to nuclear war over some piss ant country because America itself grew more ignorant AND immoral all at once. At this point, we don't know anything for certain. Just the way marxist obama likes it. Like Israel; we might want to be ready.

Yup,....really,...if the world wants to fight,...lets get at it!
cheers I tire of fear mongers.....but respect thoise who understand a fight
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Apr 7, 2015 9:24 PM CST Fox news: discussion about NUKING A MUSLIM COUNTRY?
Draegoneer: There is nothing in any military arsenal that can match the destructive power of a nuclear weapon. It doesn't frighten me. Mankind will either destroy itself or learn to rise above it.

We haven't been fighting anything except each other since the terrorist gained access to the white house. Terrorist factions world wide have gotten bolder and stronger.

It's not that we can't find them; it's that the terrorist in the white won't fight them. Iran gains nuclear capabilities, it could be worse than the threat in Korea.

It could very well come to nuclear war over some piss ant country because America itself grew more ignorant AND immoral all at once. At this point, we don't know anything for certain. Just the way marxist obama likes it. Like Israel; we might want to be ready.


Dragoneer, thanks for joining in..Let me take you to memeory lane for a second?

Remember the land marks of civilized world which left no records as to the actual account of being erected and built? ie the Pyramids, etc. etc? Do you think once mankind had the capability again and rose to a very advanced but destructive tech and wiped out human beings again?

Remember scientific date of this earth is by billions..just wondering..

Now will it rise again? I am not afraid either, just wondering, that is all.
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Apr 7, 2015 9:25 PM CST Fox news: discussion about NUKING A MUSLIM COUNTRY?
Da_Moose: I tire of fear mongers.....but respect thoise who understand a fight


how so?
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Apr 7, 2015 9:26 PM CST Fox news: discussion about NUKING A MUSLIM COUNTRY?
Da_Moose
Da_MooseDa_MooseWestlock, Alberta Canada57 Threads 1,839 Posts
galrads: We now have developed technologies that can easily nullify nuclear threats that are airborne, under the oceans or land based. We don't need nukes anymore as a deterrent.


ROFLMAO! Okay,....SKUDs will do it....nuclear has been nullified! Good to hear! Easily nullify,....geez,....I cannot stop laughing!
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Apr 7, 2015 9:28 PM CST Fox news: discussion about NUKING A MUSLIM COUNTRY?
galrads: We now have developed technologies that can easily nullify nuclear threats that are airborne, under the oceans or land based. We don't need nukes anymore as a deterrent.



Don't count on it. Ever heard of a miss? Remember September 11th, 2001? We never saw that coming either. America in blinded bliss thinking we were untouchable.

So what will do? Let them keep making more to keep firing until we run out? Maybe build up more support so more can fire at once?
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Apr 7, 2015 9:31 PM CST Fox news: discussion about NUKING A MUSLIM COUNTRY?
galrads: We now have developed technologies that can easily nullify nuclear threats that are airborne, under the oceans or land based. We don't need nukes anymore as a deterrent.


I am reading about it on a classified news but not quite realistic nor proven...

Perhaps you can share?
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Apr 7, 2015 9:37 PM CST Fox news: discussion about NUKING A MUSLIM COUNTRY?
Da_Moose: ROFLMAO! Okay,....SKUDs will do it....nuclear has been nullified! Good to hear! Easily nullify,....geez,....I cannot stop laughing!


Well stop laughing and get on with a better argument, will you?

I believe, nuclear by far is the most dangerous tech when it comes to man's annihilation...or why bother talking about it? (I mean on Fox news)
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Apr 7, 2015 9:40 PM CST Fox news: discussion about NUKING A MUSLIM COUNTRY?
Draegoneer: Don't count on it. Ever heard of a miss? Remember September 11th, 2001? We never saw that coming either. America in blinded bliss thinking we were untouchable.

So what will do? Let them keep making more to keep firing until we run out? Maybe build up more support so more can fire at once?


Speculations can burn a brick wall, but isn't the reason why some nuclear research processors in the world are quite being eliminated by accidents? ie Chernobyl and Japan?

But remember the warheads planted in Cuba? If they weren't detected and exposed? Russia would have been ahead of the game. Just thinking.
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Apr 7, 2015 9:42 PM CST Fox news: discussion about NUKING A MUSLIM COUNTRY?
Da_Moose
Da_MooseDa_MooseWestlock, Alberta Canada57 Threads 1,839 Posts
lindsyjones: how so?


Why do you seem to be SO afraid of war,....sitting in the confines of a country known to be a "super-power"? To fight, to struggle to survive is common to ALL living things,...only humanity finds senseless reasons to fight,...but fighting is common to life,....and I have respect for those who fight to survive
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Apr 7, 2015 9:43 PM CST Fox news: discussion about NUKING A MUSLIM COUNTRY?
Da_Moose
Da_MooseDa_MooseWestlock, Alberta Canada57 Threads 1,839 Posts
lindsyjones: Speculations can burn a brick wall, but isn't the reason why some nuclear research processors in the world are quite being eliminated by accidents? ie Chernobyl and Japan?

But remember the warheads planted in Cuba? If they weren't detected and exposed? Russia would have been ahead of the game. Just thinking.


LOL! Russia is still very much in the game! If we are talking that kind of fight
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Apr 7, 2015 9:46 PM CST Fox news: discussion about NUKING A MUSLIM COUNTRY?
Da_Moose
Da_MooseDa_MooseWestlock, Alberta Canada57 Threads 1,839 Posts
lindsyjones: Well stop laughing and get on with a better argument, will you?

I believe, nuclear by far is the most dangerous tech when it comes to man's annihilation...or why bother talking about it? (I mean on Fox news)


So true,....far easier to go biological or chemical,....FAR less damage to infrastructure! Humans will wage against each other as long as we exist,....and as population continues to grow, demands for resources will escalate the struggles
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Apr 7, 2015 9:50 PM CST Fox news: discussion about NUKING A MUSLIM COUNTRY?
Da_Moose: Why do you seem to be SO afraid of war,....sitting in the confines of a country known to be a "super-power"? To fight, to struggle to survive is common to ALL living things,...only humanity finds senseless reasons to fight,...but fighting is common to life,....and I have respect for those who fight to survive


I have to make a personal account. I am not afraid at all per se, but if you know war and its brutalities and atrocities, you would stay away from it if you have a normal mind..

You said it though, only humanity finds senseless reasons to fight, meaning it is an inherent part of being human, to be senseless as though there is no choice. I want to be on the sensible side. And this is why I want to share and listen...

Your resignation seems a direction man has to face just because you give respect to those who fight?

But I do agree with you. I FIGHT TO SURVIVE, too..and that is not a matter of fear..It is a matter of strength and valor..
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Apr 7, 2015 9:51 PM CST Fox news: discussion about NUKING A MUSLIM COUNTRY?
lindsyjones: Dragoneer, thanks for joining in..Let me take you to memeory lane for a second?

Remember the land marks of civilized world which left no records as to the actual account of being erected and built? ie the Pyramids, etc. etc? Do you think once mankind had the capability again and rose to a very advanced but destructive tech and wiped out human beings again?

Remember scientific date of this earth is by billions..just wondering..

Now will it rise again? I am not afraid either, just wondering, that is all.



We do have, ground based, interception missile capabilities, but not a 100% guarantee on anything.

We could do okay under nuclear attack but still heavy casualties and damage. What makes nuclear so dangerous is the long lasting killing effects for years ahead. If a major volcano eruption can fully disrupt weather patterns and more for years; what's that say for nuclear fall out? Yet, another major threat in itself, to life.

The other problems will also lie with in the nation. We have no real clue of the potential for radicals with in the nation itself. We would be fighting on all fronts with an already, scaled back military. It could very easily come down to the citizens fighting for their country again; in a much more dire situation.

This is a worse case scenario and still not to the potentially full effect.
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Apr 7, 2015 9:53 PM CST Fox news: discussion about NUKING A MUSLIM COUNTRY?
Da_Moose: LOL! Russia is still very much in the game! If we are talking that kind of fight


Question is, if Russia is pulling us out of our focus on her intentions for the greater glory, then perhaps forget about her aggression on the Ukraine. Maybe a real tactic should be applied as to its objective?
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