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Apr 30, 2015 4:12 AM CST The Power of Addiction and The Addiction of Power



This is well worth 18 minutes, 46 seconds of your time. I hope it brings some understanding.
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Apr 30, 2015 4:22 AM CST The Power of Addiction and The Addiction of Power
Credit goes to Bali, for bringing this to my attention:

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Apr 30, 2015 9:07 AM CST The Power of Addiction and The Addiction of Power
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredTemp accom with my son, Worcestershire, England UK113 Threads 3 Polls 8,796 Posts
jac_the_gripper: Credit goes to Bali, for bringing this to my attention:



An interesting article, not sure It convinces me, but I will do some research over the weekend, I just have a problem with comparing cognitive behaviour of humans to rats, but many thanks for posting.
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Apr 30, 2015 9:25 AM CST The Power of Addiction and The Addiction of Power
Nidifugous
NidifugousNidifugousYap, Federated States of Micronesia58 Threads 5 Polls 2,339 Posts
jac_the_gripper: This is well worth 18 minutes, 46 seconds of your time. I hope it brings some understanding.


That was a nice talk. Enjoyed it. I watch TED talks and MIT courses often. There's some good stuff there. thumbs up
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Apr 30, 2015 9:42 AM CST The Power of Addiction and The Addiction of Power
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK377 Threads 8 Polls 24,692 Posts
rizlared: An interesting article, not sure It convinces me, but I will do some research over the weekend, I just have a problem with comparing cognitive behaviour of humans to rats, but many thanks for posting.


I find this article very convincing, all alternative methods seem to fail in general
The fact that we are bonding animals makes sense through many aspects of our life, it is said you need at least one hug a day to remain emotionally healthy.
It stands to reason that emotionally deprived people will become addicted to make up for the big hole in their lives left by not bonding with other humans.
On a personal level, I gave up smoking with no hardship, and nipped a drinking problem in the bud with no hardship.
Don't dismiss these alternative ideas, I think they are on the right track.
For once I am serious.
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Apr 30, 2015 10:05 AM CST The Power of Addiction and The Addiction of Power
Kalpataru
KalpataruKalpatarusomewhere close to, Jakarta Indonesia1,212 Posts
jac_the_gripper: Credit goes to Bali, for bringing this to my attention:


Hmmm.. very interesting reading. Thank you Jac for sharing, and I suppose thanks to Bali too. thumbs up


PS
For a reason, I cannot watch the video though. blues
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Apr 30, 2015 11:14 AM CST The Power of Addiction and The Addiction of Power
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredTemp accom with my son, Worcestershire, England UK113 Threads 3 Polls 8,796 Posts
tomcatwarne: I find this article very convincing, all alternative methods seem to fail in general
The fact that we are bonding animals makes sense through many aspects of our life, it is said you need at least one hug a day to remain emotionally healthy.
It stands to reason that emotionally deprived people will become addicted to make up for the big hole in their lives left by not bonding with other humans.
On a personal level, I gave up smoking with no hardship, and nipped a drinking problem in the bud with no hardship.
Don't dismiss these alternative ideas, I think they are on the right track.
For once I am serious.


I'm not dismissing anything, I just need to get further details. I have a very open mind towards this kind of research, but as always, there are two sides to everything, a rat may have a far more simpler understanding of like and dislike, humans are never black or white regarding emotions or feelings, some people are gregarious and love attention, other seek solitude and dislike attention, I just fail, at this moment, to see that reproduced in rats.

However, I can see some logic within the premiss, so as I said, further research is something I need to do.
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Apr 30, 2015 11:55 AM CST The Power of Addiction and The Addiction of Power
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK377 Threads 8 Polls 24,692 Posts
rizlared: I'm not dismissing anything, I just need to get further details. I have a very open mind towards this kind of research, but as always, there are two sides to everything, a rat may have a far more simpler understanding of like and dislike, humans are never black or white regarding emotions or feelings, some people are gregarious and love attention, other seek solitude and dislike attention, I just fail, at this moment, to see that reproduced in rats.

However, I can see some logic within the premiss, so as I said, further research is something I need to do.


Don't you go testing yourself on that there opium.grin
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May 1, 2015 12:19 AM CST The Power of Addiction and The Addiction of Power
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico184 Threads 24 Polls 22,303 Posts
jac_the_gripper: This is well worth 18 minutes, 46
seconds of your time. I hope it brings some understanding.


I did read the article and that is a very interesting approach and I hope it does work.

Just one question on the experiment:
(unless I overlooked)

Had the rats in the “park” had the two water options with drugs (both of them) what would have the rats done?


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May 1, 2015 1:02 AM CST The Power of Addiction and The Addiction of Power
jac_the_gripper: This is well worth 18 minutes, 46 seconds of your time. I hope it brings some understanding.

Addiction is the only way I know how to live.
If the addiction is to keep breathing, I would never look for it again.

When I breath, power, power, power to the addition.

If it is not good, the power of the addiction will not let me breath.




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May 1, 2015 10:33 AM CST The Power of Addiction and The Addiction of Power
Nidifugous
NidifugousNidifugousYap, Federated States of Micronesia58 Threads 5 Polls 2,339 Posts
If I had to say something critical, then it's perhaps the notion that we're all "good" by nature. I think we're all self-serving, first. Maybe it's the survival instinct. There have been many experiments of communal living and it is always only a matter of time until things go south over either jealousies or dominance.
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May 1, 2015 11:06 AM CST The Power of Addiction and The Addiction of Power
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK377 Threads 8 Polls 24,692 Posts
Nidifugous: If I had to say something critical, then it's perhaps the notion that we're all "good" by nature. I think we're all self-serving, first. Maybe it's the survival instinct. There have been many experiments of communal living and it is always only a matter of time until things go south over either jealousies or dominance.


I am the only totally altruistic male on CS (true)
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May 1, 2015 11:29 AM CST The Power of Addiction and The Addiction of Power
KNenagh
KNenaghKNenaghAachen, Kilkenny Ireland13 Threads 14,456 Posts
I read the article from Bali a while ago.

It is interesting, willpower, a rich and happy life is a good cure for a lot of addictions - but I do think that there are exceptions (as mentioned in the article as well).
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