Why do places in the UK always end up in 'shire'?? (19)
Randy322Southern Bs. As., Buenos Aires Argentina11 Threads 2 Polls 276 PostsAlways wonder about this.
Randy322: Always wonder about this.
log on to goggle.....the meaning of shires.......will tell you.
truheart1941: log on to goggle.....the meaning of shires.......will tell you.
division of land?
that's no fun, thought the explanantion was something 'Lord of the rings' related. Oh well i guess there's always room for disappointment in life.
In response to: Always wonder about this.
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10 things you never knew about Shires.
1. Change the R to a T and you've got a pretty good description of some Shires.
2. Take the S away and you've got something you can do with cars in every shire.
3. In the olden days York had the biggest shire.
4. If Yorkshire had been a country at the last Olympics in 2012, it would have won the 12th most gold medals of any country.
5. Change the R to an N and that's something that the sun rarely does in West Yorkshire.
6. Change the H to a P and you've got something that the town of Chesterfield in Derbyshire is famous for. Due to it having a crooked one.
7. The Spire in Chesterfield has never robbed anyone. It's crooked in the sense that's it's physically twisted.
8. Randy322 never knew where the term Shire came, before he started a thread on it n Connecting singles.
9. Change the I to an O and you have something that Derbyshire doesn't have, unless you count lakes and reservoirs. That's because Derbyshire is landlocked.
10. Unlike the landlocked country of Switzerland, Derbyshire doesn't have it's own navy. That's because it's a county in England, which is part of the United Kingdom, which has it's own navy.
1. Change the R to a T and you've got a pretty good description of some Shires.
2. Take the S away and you've got something you can do with cars in every shire.
3. In the olden days York had the biggest shire.
4. If Yorkshire had been a country at the last Olympics in 2012, it would have won the 12th most gold medals of any country.
5. Change the R to an N and that's something that the sun rarely does in West Yorkshire.
6. Change the H to a P and you've got something that the town of Chesterfield in Derbyshire is famous for. Due to it having a crooked one.
7. The Spire in Chesterfield has never robbed anyone. It's crooked in the sense that's it's physically twisted.
8. Randy322 never knew where the term Shire came, before he started a thread on it n Connecting singles.
9. Change the I to an O and you have something that Derbyshire doesn't have, unless you count lakes and reservoirs. That's because Derbyshire is landlocked.
10. Unlike the landlocked country of Switzerland, Derbyshire doesn't have it's own navy. That's because it's a county in England, which is part of the United Kingdom, which has it's own navy.
Randy322: Always wonder about this.
They don't - Read it up on Wiki and Look at the UK map.
**Unfortunately Wiki has many errors on this subject and when information is short assumptions have been made.**
TRUE - Wiki is also not acceptable by University and FCE's if it is used as a sole reference for a thesis. Research and history must be supported by at least one other information source in the bibliography.
But sticking to MY point - The counties are listed correctly as we know them.
TRUE - Wiki is also not acceptable by University and FCE's if it is used as a sole reference for a thesis. Research and history must be supported by at least one other information source in the bibliography.
But sticking to MY point - The counties are listed correctly as we know them.
The modern day counties are a bit of a mess, I would have prefered that places such as merseyside, humberside and Cumbria to name just a few, had been left alone. Places like Monmouthshire, Westmorland,Cumberland and the ridings of Yorkshire where wiped of the map. The traditional counties had identities and history which the people identified with.
**Unfortunately Wiki has many errors on this subject and when information is short assumptions have been made.**
TRUE - Wiki is also not acceptable by University and FCE's if it is used as a sole reference for a thesis. Research and history must be supported by at least one other information source in the bibliography.
But sticking to MY point - The counties are listed correctly as we know them.
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Wiki is a good place to swingboard off in search of a deeper understanding of the given subject.
As for shires, I think they sound romantic and quintessentially English. And as I have the attention span of Dori (Finding Nemo) thats about as deep as I get
TRUE - Wiki is also not acceptable by University and FCE's if it is used as a sole reference for a thesis. Research and history must be supported by at least one other information source in the bibliography.
But sticking to MY point - The counties are listed correctly as we know them.
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Wiki is a good place to swingboard off in search of a deeper understanding of the given subject.
As for shires, I think they sound romantic and quintessentially English. And as I have the attention span of Dori (Finding Nemo) thats about as deep as I get
Orpheus2: The modern day counties are a bit of a mess, I would have prefered that places such as merseyside, humberside and Cumbria to name just a few, had been left alone. Places like Monmouthshire, Westmorland,Cumberland and the ridings of Yorkshire where wiped of the map. The traditional counties had identities and history which the people identified with.
Humberside no longer exists. As for Yorkshire, it's a lot more complex than the ridings disappearing.
I don't hear of Cumbrians crying over their lost counties. They did gain parts of north west Lancashire.
When it comes to rugby league, they are happy to be Cumbrians. Then again, Westmorland was always union territory.
pennining: Lancashire and Yorkshire aren't quintessentially English.
Maybe not but I think the word 'shires' sounds like it jmo
A probable history of Norfolk and Suffolk is that they are parts of East Anglia (East Angles) when the Joint kings Ecgric and Sigeberht ruled over the Kingdom, one ruled in the north the other in the south so giving us the North Folk and the South Folk, after their reign the two areas became under one king again. Yorkshire was part of the Kingdom of Nourthumbria until Aethelstan finally united the seven kingdoms (Not Alfred the Great). Northumbria was a very large place so at sometime the area was subdivided, (probably in the reign of Edward the Confessor) giving us Yorkshire. what we do know is in 1055 it was divided again into 3 parts called Thrydings (later to become rydings). Being a Yorkshireman myself I have to argue that we are a true English County.
ouch....
OK, Now I was born in Hull, Hull is not part of Yorkshire, Hull is a county!
The official title is The City and County of Kingston upon Hull and it was given this status by none other than Edward I when he came riding up this way in 1299. This royal charter still stands to this day. Now as for humberside (lower case 'h' was deliberate) it no longer exists and should never have existed it was a travesty and an insult. Like having a 'south Yorkshire'.
OK, Now I was born in Hull, Hull is not part of Yorkshire, Hull is a county!
The official title is The City and County of Kingston upon Hull and it was given this status by none other than Edward I when he came riding up this way in 1299. This royal charter still stands to this day. Now as for humberside (lower case 'h' was deliberate) it no longer exists and should never have existed it was a travesty and an insult. Like having a 'south Yorkshire'.
Orpheus2: ouch....
OK, Now I was born in Hull, Hull is not part of Yorkshire, Hull is a county!
The official title is The City and County of Kingston upon Hull and it was given this status by none other than Edward I when he came riding up this way in 1299. This royal charter still stands to this day. Now as for humberside (lower case 'h' was deliberate) it no longer exists and should never have existed it was a travesty and an insult. Like having a 'south Yorkshire'.
OK, Now I was born in Hull, Hull is not part of Yorkshire, Hull is a county!
The official title is The City and County of Kingston upon Hull and it was given this status by none other than Edward I when he came riding up this way in 1299. This royal charter still stands to this day. Now as for humberside (lower case 'h' was deliberate) it no longer exists and should never have existed it was a travesty and an insult. Like having a 'south Yorkshire'.
I've never heard anyone from Ull desribe their city as a county.
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