Oldest tools found predate Man ( Archived) (36)

BigBamaQ - I am very sad to learn either Albama lacks Internet, or you don't know how to Google a topic..

Nevertheless, I would suggest this website as a start.



From it, ".., and gave rise to anatomically modern Homo sapiens in Africa about 200,000 years ago. They began to exhibit evidence of behavioral modernity around 50,000 years ago..."

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from it, "Omo I and II (195,000 years ago): In 1967, a team led by Richard Leakey discovered possible Homo sapiens fossils in the Kibish Formation near the Omo River in southern Ethiopia. Originally the fossils, Omo I (a partial skull and skeleton) and Omo II (a partial skull), were thought to be 130,000 years old, but a dating reanalysis in 2005 revealed they were much older—195,000 years old, making them the oldest fossils assigned to Homo sapiens. Over the last 45 years, the species status of the fossils has been debated. Researchers largely agree Omo I was a modern human; it had the human hallmarks of a flat face, fully formed chin, high forehead and globular braincase. They are less certain about Omo II, which was more primitive with its thicker, more “rugged” cranial bones and sloped forehead. While some paleoanthropologists say Omo II is too archaic to be one of us, others suggest it’s evidence of the great physical diversity of early modern humans."

There is much more for you to find. The old thoughts of 20 or 40 years ago are now obsolete. Biggest puzzle I see, as the OP shows, is tools and making tools predate us. We shared the planet with other Homo species (Hablis, etc.). They used tools. But no trace of tools has ever been found with human remains more than 100,000 years old. At about 100,000 years ago, suddenly our ancestors decide it is good idea to copy the other guys.

That either makes perfect sense to you (but not to me), or there is a huge amount we know nothing about covering our first 100,000 years and what happened to the first civilizations of which we find no trace. Tools start appearing with our remains at 100,000 years ago. Trace civilizations (communities) at 50,000 years ago. Agriculture at 7,000 years ago. No explanation to explain why we spent the first 100,000 years of our lives, sitting with our thumbs up our butt, while all around us Cro-Magnon, Neanderthalus, Hablis, and all the others were in communities, using tools, and making fires and cave paintings. WTF were we doing back then, eating psychedelic mushrooms and begging food from the ape men?

It would seem logical to me that what anthropologists consider, or considered, Homo Sapiens 200,000 years ago wasnt entirely correct. While cross species breeding apparently took place ,
neanderthal and sapiens etc., the ability to produce offspring is usually the primary test to determine a species. No offspring with breeding = different species.

Apparently then, our unique intellectual abilities developed independently of any species identification. It could of been angels or aliens, but I suspect a subtle mutation in the grey matter 100,00 years ago in a lower intellect ape! HA! HA!

Well regarding the first, it seems the anthropologists are pretty convinced the Homo Sapiens today is the same as the Homo Sapiens back then. Quite simply if they felt otherwise they would have assigned a different species name to the 200,000 year old bones. Noting also, initially they didn't realize how old those bones were until retesting with more accurate machines was done in 2005.

I am open to the concept of an external event (i.e., mutation, virus DNA being incorporated into our own, etc.) increasing the efficiency of the gray matter 100,000 years ago, but the skull's internal cranial cavity size remained constant, and that argues against it.

I see two choices. We used tools and had communities back then, but all evidence of that was carefully not buried with our bones (the who and why of that is of course unknown). Or, we developed just as we did in the second 100,000 years, but we had a major catastrophe of some kind erase all evidence of it. Even buildings of iron and concrete, and automobiles would vanish with all traces being absorbed by the earth after 100,000 years. Wild speculation I agree.

Yes, clearly we took what mates were DNA viable. Maybe even a few that weren't. Lucy may have looked pretty good with a whole body shave. LoL.

Of course carried to extreme, this means we are our ancestors predecessors.

They must´ve found truhearts toolshed

My guess, the stone is 3.3 million years old, and probably about 0.1 million years ago a guy with a very hairy back made it into a tool.