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Jun 2, 2015 7:06 PM CST New stuff around the house...
My kitchen light fixture is difficult to get to and change bulbs in, etc...so, when one flickered out, I decided to replace both with "Ecobulbs", low-energy CFL bulbs. They are expensive - about twelve dollars each, on sale, at that, but last at least 7 years with moderate to heavy use. They are installed, and the heavy cover back up, what a chore. Here's my question--I had heard a couple of times that in order for these light bulbs to function properly, they need to be left on for a period of time at first installation. I have done so--it has been about five hours. No where can I find out good information about this, does anyone know, and for how long should I leave them on to 'set' them, or whatever? Thanks.
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Jun 2, 2015 7:13 PM CST New stuff around the house...
lolol I wouldn't worry your little head about it. They'll be fine.
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Jun 2, 2015 7:16 PM CST New stuff around the house...
rohaan: My kitchen light fixture is difficult to get to and change bulbs in, etc...so, when one flickered out, I decided to replace both with "Ecobulbs", low-energy CFL bulbs. They are expensive - about twelve dollars each, on sale, at that, but last at least 7 years with moderate to heavy use. They are installed, and the heavy cover back up, what a chore. Here's my question--I had heard a couple of times that in order for these light bulbs to function properly, they need to be left on for a period of time at first installation. I have done so--it has been about five hours. No where can I find out good information about this, does anyone know, and for how long should I leave them on to 'set' them, or whatever? Thanks.
....15 years......grin
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Jun 2, 2015 7:20 PM CST New stuff around the house...
MADDOG69: I dunno. I have a couple of them here and I just used them like a normal incandescent bulb. And I have 1 in a lamp that has lasted several years now for many hours a day.
You didn't notice if they had a 'low' dull light when first turned on, but eventually got up to a better glow? That's what tends to happen, unless they are 'set' as I described earlier. My question is how long to leave them on at first, then I can deal with it!frustrated frustrated



p.s. thank you, I love you zillions, you know.....




seriously--------------like, zillions of zillions....teddybear
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Jun 2, 2015 7:21 PM CST New stuff around the house...
truheart1941: ....15 years......
Oh who rattled your cage, mister??laugh
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Jun 2, 2015 7:25 PM CST New stuff around the house...
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
rohaan: My kitchen light fixture is difficult to get to and change bulbs in, etc...so, when one flickered out, I decided to replace both with "Ecobulbs", low-energy CFL bulbs. They are expensive - about twelve dollars each, on sale, at that, but last at least 7 years with moderate to heavy use. They are installed, and the heavy cover back up, what a chore. Here's my question--I had heard a couple of times that in order for these light bulbs to function properly, they need to be left on for a period of time at first installation. I have done so--it has been about five hours. No where can I find out good information about this, does anyone know, and for how long should I leave them on to 'set' them, or whatever? Thanks.


Why are you spending big bucks for old technology? Geepers creepers why not by state of the art ip addressable LED light bulbs, that have a projected longer life, use less energy and cost about the same.
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Jun 2, 2015 7:25 PM CST New stuff around the house...
rohaan: You didn't notice if they had a 'low' dull light when first turned on, but eventually got up to a better glow? That's what tends to happen, unless they are 'set' as I described earlier. My question is how long to leave them on at first, then I can deal with it!
p.s. thank you, I love you zillions, you know.....

seriously--------------like, zillions of zillions....

Rohan. That's normal for nearly every CFL bulb. It's how it works. Ions and such in the gas work better when it warms up.
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Jun 2, 2015 7:27 PM CST New stuff around the house...
rohaan: Oh who rattled your cage, mister??
you cant help some people ,you miserabale cu*t....giggle giggle giggle
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Jun 2, 2015 7:34 PM CST New stuff around the house...
galrads: Why are you spending big bucks for old technology? Geepers creepers why not by state of the art ip addressable LED light bulbs, that have a projected longer life, use less energy and cost about the same.
Ecobulbs are rather recent--if you are not aware, they are those that look somewhat like an ice-cream swirl. I will use them for now, as they were too expensive to just not use, but thanks for the info, I will look at those ones, too. thumbs up
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Jun 2, 2015 7:36 PM CST New stuff around the house...
MADDOG69: Rohan. That's normal for nearly every CFL bulb. It's how it works. Ions and such in the gas work better when it warms up.
so am I dumb?dunno sssorry.........uh oh
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Jun 2, 2015 7:40 PM CST New stuff around the house...
rohaan: Ecobulbs are rather recent--if you are not aware, they are those that look somewhat like an ice-cream swirl. I will use them for now, as they were too expensive to just not use, but thanks for the info, I will look at those ones, too.
just look for low energ/ with a coiled filiment...lasts for years. jusy plug in switch on....job done......thumbs up
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Jun 2, 2015 7:46 PM CST New stuff around the house...
truheart1941: just look for low energ/ with a coiled filiment...lasts for years. jusy plug in switch on....job done......
Thanks. OK--we love each other, right? RIGHT?????roll eyes
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Jun 2, 2015 7:48 PM CST New stuff around the house...
rohaan: Thanks. OK--we love each other, right? RIGHT?????
like a brother.....grin
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Jun 2, 2015 7:49 PM CST New stuff around the house...
truheart1941: like a brother.....
so when are we going camping?banana
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Jun 2, 2015 8:01 PM CST New stuff around the house...
2intrigued
2intrigued2intriguedMississauga, Ontario Canada11 Threads 18,576 Posts
rohaan: My kitchen light fixture is difficult to get to and change bulbs in, etc...so, when one flickered out, I decided to replace both with "Ecobulbs", low-energy CFL bulbs. They are expensive - about twelve dollars each, on sale, at that, but last at least 7 years with moderate to heavy use. They are installed, and the heavy cover back up, what a chore. Here's my question--I had heard a couple of times that in order for these light bulbs to function properly, they need to be left on for a period of time at first installation. I have done so--it has been about five hours. No where can I find out good information about this, does anyone know, and for how long should I leave them on to 'set' them, or whatever? Thanks.


Hiya Ro wave I think CFL bulbs only take a few moments to reach full brightness but it shouldn't take hours. Perhaps you're not happy with the amount of light this new bulb is emitting in your kitchen?
The trend now seems to be leaning towards LED bulbs as they are becoming far cheaper to buy now compared to years ago. The thing that concerns me about CFL bulbs is the mercury content so if you happen to break one or need to dispose of it, use great caution. They can't be disposed of in the regular garbage for safety reasons.
I found these pros and cons on CFL vs. LED that might interest you as well as the link to the site.

CFL Light Bulbs

Pros:

Use less energy than incandescent bulbs
Cost less than LED light bulbs
Produce extremely bright light that spreads evenly
Available in soft, warm, and bright white hues

Cons:

Cannot be used with a dimmer switch
Take a few moments to heat up and reach full brightness
Contain mercury, a toxic heavy metal
Can be sensitive to cold temperatures

LED Light Bulbs

Pros:

Light up immediately, like an incandescent bulb
Don’t heat up much at all – they stay cool to the touch even after use
Last up to five times longer than CFLs; can literally last a lifetime
No sensitivity to cold temperatures
Do not contain mercury
Some models can be used with a dimmer switch
Available in soft, warm, and bright white hues

Cons:

Directional light that may not spread as evenly as other sources
Currently cost more than CFLs

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Jun 3, 2015 3:13 AM CST New stuff around the house...
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
rohaan: My kitchen light fixture is difficult to get to and change bulbs in, etc...so, when one flickered out, I decided to replace both with "Ecobulbs", low-energy CFL bulbs. They are expensive - about twelve dollars each, on sale, at that, but last at least 7 years with moderate to heavy use. They are installed, and the heavy cover back up, what a chore. Here's my question--I had heard a couple of times that in order for these light bulbs to function properly, they need to be left on for a period of time at first installation. I have done so--it has been about five hours. No where can I find out good information about this, does anyone know, and for how long should I leave them on to 'set' them, or whatever? Thanks.


Well, where to begin in this whole debacle.....laugh

The compact fluorescents, known as CFLs are not the best thing there is out there for that type of bulb, but the cheapest alternative to good fluoresecents. The best are a T8 or T5, but they're usually seen as a strip light, in 2, 3 and 4 foot length in 1, 2 and 4 tube varities. There are though, other variants, in compact sizes. All of these would require changing the fixture you currently own, where as the CFL doesn't, usually.

I've come across many fixtures that won't accept a CFL due to the size of the base, so the entire fixture needed to be replaces anyway, and the client opted for something more efficient. It's not always an LED though, seeing as the cost can be prohibitive, and the light isn't always the best for the application.

The T5 does require a "burn in" time, which is generally 12 hours, which will extend bulb life to the max, but the T8 seems to last longer with a burn in as well, although it is reported that it isn't required. I've personally tested them, and there is merit to leaving them on for a day when you first install them and the power you use is next to nothing, as compared to what you would have had previously.

I like the idea of LED lighting, but I don't care for the light itself, and I have found that a few of them are outright annoying, even causing headaches and a feeling of nausea. It has also been said of fluorescents, but I've never experienced it, but I have with LEDs.

The added cost of LED lighting, compared with a simple CFL replacement, or even to switching to a more efficient T8 or T5 fixture is huge, so do the math on what the usage will be in each particular application. I don't see the need for T5 compared to a T8 in a garage, unless they're on 24/7 for years at a time, and then you may as well switch to an LED, if you can stand the light and afford the initial cost.

Hmmm, I dunno if I've answered your question, but if you want anything specific, please don't hesitate to mail me. It's not all cut and dried, it all depends on the application and intended usage, as to what you should have for lighting. It isn't as easy as it was when you decided on a 40 or 60 or 100 watt bulb years ago. laugh
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Jun 3, 2015 4:36 AM CST New stuff around the house...
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
rohaan: My kitchen light fixture is difficult to get to and change bulbs in, etc...so, when one flickered out, I decided to replace both with "Ecobulbs", low-energy CFL bulbs. They are expensive - about twelve dollars each, on sale, at that, but last at least 7 years with moderate to heavy use. They are installed, and the heavy cover back up, what a chore. Here's my question--I had heard a couple of times that in order for these light bulbs to function properly, they need to be left on for a period of time at first installation. I have done so--it has been about five hours. No where can I find out good information about this, does anyone know, and for how long should I leave them on to 'set' them, or whatever? Thanks.
Well I have been using them exclusively since 2005 as my system is an off grid solar/ hydro hybrid . Its the first I have heard of having to leave a bulb on to "set" , wouldn't dismiss it though . There is a limit to the size/output you can get with cf , LED is the way to go if you want lots of light , cost more here as it new tec still . I changed my shearing shed over to cfl and blew the lot when I throttled down my generator before turning off the motor . Low volts killed the cfl deader than dead .
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Jun 3, 2015 5:24 AM CST New stuff around the house...
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
In response to: My kitchen light fixture is difficult to get to and change bulbs in, etc...so, when one flickered out, I decided to replace both with "Ecobulbs", low-energy CFL bulbs. They are expensive - about twelve dollars each, on sale, at that, but last at least 7 years with moderate to heavy use. They are installed, and the heavy cover back up, what a chore. Here's my question--I had heard a couple of times that in order for these light bulbs to function properly, they need to be left on for a period of time at first installation. I have done so--it has been about five hours. No where can I find out good information about this, does anyone know, and for how long should I leave them on to 'set' them, or whatever? Thanks.


How many Rohaans does it take to change a light bulb? Just one giving 110%
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Jun 3, 2015 8:23 PM CST New stuff around the house...
kidatheart:



I like the idea of LED lighting, but I don't care for the light itself, and I have found that a few of them are outright annoying, even causing headaches and a feeling of nausea. It has also been said of fluorescents, but I've never experienced it, but I have with LEDs.


Well, they're "set", and it doesn't appear to take a warm-up time, as some of these types seemed to in the past, so maybe the 'leave-it-on-for-ten-hours' actually worked. (I could not have found out by doing it differently because, if wrong, the bulbs would have been ruined. Get that? I know it sounds a little weird, but I do believe there must be some truth to it. The worst scenario is that I used up ten hours unnecessarily. But, they do last at least 7 years, so not really a problem). The "glow" is a little funky, an almost feeling of good morning mr. sunshine but eerie. Like Munchkins, in that respect--cute to look at but a little freaky. ) anyhoo--if I find the light bugs me too much I'll go back to regulars and be out $24.00dunno
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