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Jun 8, 2015 3:08 PM CST religious differences
It's amazing how religion represents most our values, beliefs and traditions, and to most it's a way of life. We live in our religion and religion lives within us.
(Atheist excluded)

QUESTION: Can we become more united because of religion? Or are we more divided?

Why?
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Jun 8, 2015 3:23 PM CST religious differences
jt3jo
jt3jojt3jodublin, Dublin Ireland2 Threads 389 Posts
lindsyjones: It's amazing how religion represents most our values, beliefs and traditions, and to most it's a way of life. We live in our religion and religion lives within us.
(Atheist excluded)

QUESTION: Can we become more united because of religion? Or are we more divided?

Why?
If all religions preach for peace, then, why can they not achieve peace ? Ref: Dalai Lama.
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Jun 8, 2015 3:23 PM CST religious differences
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
religion will not get you to eternity. belief in GOD will. but in saying that it is every ones free will which was given to us, GOD does not force us to believe in him.

I think it has divided us because the great deceiver is hard at work deceiving us.
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Jun 8, 2015 3:27 PM CST religious differences
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Off course there is something we don't understand, science will reveal all in the end.
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Jun 8, 2015 3:30 PM CST religious differences
Da_Moose
Da_MooseDa_MooseWestlock, Alberta Canada57 Threads 1,839 Posts
lindsyjones: It's amazing how religion represents most our values, beliefs and traditions, and to most it's a way of life. We live in our religion and religion lives within us.
(Atheist excluded)

QUESTION: Can we become more united because of religion? Or are we more divided?

Why?


Your exclusion of atheism,....is interesting,...for indeed the world grows more secular. Allah, Christ, Vishnu, Jehovah, Manitou,...okay Zues,.....how can a unification result wherein the diety has not been accepted by all? And yes, it IS AMAZING how an artificial construct dictates so, so many peoples lives,....but until that non-acheivaeable moment arrives.....division will be ongoing....
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Jun 8, 2015 3:33 PM CST religious differences
Da_Moose
Da_MooseDa_MooseWestlock, Alberta Canada57 Threads 1,839 Posts
jt3jo: If all religions preach for peace, then, why can they not achieve peace ? Ref: Dalai Lama.


Religion is a human construct.....as a species we do NOT seek peace, we seek SURVIVAL! And I will leave it at that.
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Jun 8, 2015 3:35 PM CST religious differences
jt3jo: If all religions preach for peace, then, why can they not achieve peace ? Ref: Dalai Lama.
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Jr a most compelling statement. Perhaps the answer truly unlocks our way to unity and peace. .
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Jun 8, 2015 3:35 PM CST religious differences
Da_Moose
Da_MooseDa_MooseWestlock, Alberta Canada57 Threads 1,839 Posts
stringman: religion will not get you to eternity. belief in GOD will. but in saying that it is every ones free will which was given to us, GOD does not force us to believe in him.

I think it has divided us because the great deceiver is hard at work deceiving us.


Belief in a great "deceiver" requires belief in an antithesis.
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Jun 8, 2015 3:36 PM CST religious differences
Should have been for Jt. Thanks for joining. In reality if we look at the core of our ways and we truly practice what is preached, granting we all want peace, where's the division come from and why?
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Jun 8, 2015 3:40 PM CST religious differences
stringman: religion will not get you to eternity. belief in GOD will. but in saying that it is every ones free will which was given to us, GOD does not force us to believe in him.

I think it has divided us because the great deceiver is hard at work deceiving us.


Why we all somehow want to believe in something, religion as it is, don't we suppose to have unity in the equation? Or is someone's God, can't be all that which represent their belief?

I'm not too religious, I can't say that I am, but do believe in God. What does it take to unite with or without God?
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Jun 8, 2015 3:41 PM CST religious differences
Ego is very strong.
As long as we continue allowing the ego to trump Love, there will always be division and hostilities.
"Do Unto Others as You Would Have Them Do Unto You", crosses all religious lines, all belief systems, yet is quickly forgotten when ego cannot be kept in check.
It means ALL people, not just those who agree with us.
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Jun 8, 2015 3:41 PM CST religious differences
tomcatwarne: Off course there is something we don't understand, science will reveal all in the end.


Perhaps it will be too late, Tom?
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Jun 8, 2015 3:44 PM CST religious differences
Da_Moose: Religion is a human construct.....as a species we do NOT seek peace, we seek SURVIVAL! And I will leave it at that.


I believe that survival is a way of making it out to what we need. Today among humanity, is there still a need to kill so we survive?
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Jun 8, 2015 3:48 PM CST religious differences
Kaybee50: Ego is very strong.
As long as we continue allowing the ego to trump Love, there will always be division and hostilities.
"Do Unto Others as You Would Have Them Do Unto You", crosses all religious lines, all belief systems, yet is quickly forgotten when ego cannot be kept in check.
It means ALL people, not just those who agree with us.


KB a most compelling substance of humility. Yes, that which is a flaw inherent to our creation. Imperfections of which we have not always absolute control. Does it mean then that like we, catholic believe when God passes the judgement and imperfect no more?

I am always praying that weakness wouldn't rule me but as committed as I am for justice and understanding, somehow I'm short sighted and commit many Z blunders that hurt others.
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Jun 8, 2015 3:48 PM CST religious differences
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
lindsyjones: Perhaps it will be too late, Tom?


No it will be too late for me maybe, but eternity is just the blink of an if you are asleep.
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Jun 8, 2015 3:52 PM CST religious differences
lindsyjones: KB a most compelling substance of humility. Yes, that which is a flaw inherent to our creation. Imperfections of which we have not always absolute control. Does it mean then that like we, catholic believe when God passes the judgement and imperfect no more?

I am always praying that weakness wouldn't rule me but as committed as I am for justice and understanding, somehow I'm short sighted and commit many Z blunders that hurt others.
We mess up every day, many times a day.\
It's because we are human.
The key is to recognize and see our true flawed selves, make apologies and amends to those we have hurt.
We can't change other people, but we can start with ourselves.
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Jun 8, 2015 3:56 PM CST religious differences
tomcatwarne: No it will be too late for me maybe, but eternity is just the blink of an if you are asleep.


Well then we just have to wait then Tom. Destiny as anticipated? Meantime we live through all these evils lurking in our midst.

Not good.
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Jun 8, 2015 3:56 PM CST religious differences
tomcatwarne: No it will be too late for me maybe, but eternity is just the blink of an if you are asleep.


Well then we just have to wait then Tom. Destiny as anticipated? Meantime we live through all these evils lurking in our midst.

Not good.
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Jun 8, 2015 3:56 PM CST religious differences
tomcatwarne: No it will be too late for me maybe, but eternity is just the blink of an if you are asleep.


Well then we just have to wait then Tom. Destiny as anticipated? Meantime we live through all these evils lurking in our midst.

Not good.
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Jun 8, 2015 3:58 PM CST religious differences
Da_Moose
Da_MooseDa_MooseWestlock, Alberta Canada57 Threads 1,839 Posts
lindsyjones: I believe that survival is a way of making it out to what we need. Today among humanity, is there still a need to kill so we survive?


Unfortunately,....yes, there is such a "need". I can understand a need to survive, but as a secular person,....please explain to me the need for a Jihad or a Crusdae as a "need" to survive? Are not these simply c0onstructs of the religion in order to justify their existence? At over 7 billin "strong"......there is only so much bio-mass in this eco-sphere,....and no matter your god,...when it is FULL, it is FULL,....somebody or something must "move" to make room!
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