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Jun 15, 2015 1:12 PM CST the Monday club :)
galrads: There is one thing I've never understood about the titanic's sinking. Why didn't it capsize like we've seen so many other big ships do?

Regarding the captain, I thought he had to follow orders to keep the ship at full steam to make a record time crossing the Atlantic. Was it his fault that they didn't keep binoculars in the crows lookout nest and that no one expected to see an iceberg that far south either?

They had two+ hours to put the titanic in reverse and put the crew and passengers on the iceberg, instead of letting them freeze to death in the water. I guess that would have been the captains call too, especially considering he knew the close proximity of other ships in the area.
the captain should off known there was ice bergs every where and ease up on the speed RIP captain
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Jun 15, 2015 1:31 PM CST the Monday club :)
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galrads: There is one thing I've never understood about the titanic's sinking. Why didn't it capsize like we've seen so many other big ships do?

Regarding the captain, I thought he had to follow orders to keep the ship at full steam to make a record time crossing the Atlantic. Was it his fault that they didn't keep binoculars in the crows lookout nest and that no one expected to see an iceberg that far south either?

They had two+ hours to put the titanic in reverse and put the crew and passengers on the iceberg, instead of letting them freeze to death in the water. I guess that would have been the captains call too, especially considering he knew the close proximity of other ships in the area.



wave As we've seen in the news, Captains of these huge ships aren't the brightest bulb in the box. Most of them run away from the sinking ship. Re: Costa Concordia, ferry in Korea, Chinese cruise ship.
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Jun 15, 2015 1:43 PM CST the Monday club :)
galrads: There is one thing I've never understood about the titanic's sinking. Why didn't it capsize like we've seen so many other big ships do?

Regarding the captain, I thought he had to follow orders to keep the ship at full steam to make a record time crossing the Atlantic. Was it his fault that they didn't keep binoculars in the crows lookout nest and that no one expected to see an iceberg that far south either?

They had two+ hours to put the titanic in reverse and put the crew and passengers on the iceberg, instead of letting them freeze to death in the water. I guess that would have been the captains call too, especially considering he knew the close proximity of other ships in the area.


After leaving Southampton on 10 April 1912, Titanic called at Cherbourg in France and Queenstown (now Cobh) in Ireland before heading west to New York. On 14 April 1912, four days into the crossing and about 375 miles (600 km) south of Newfoundland, she hit an iceberg at 11:40 p.m. ship's time. The collision caused the ship's hull plates to buckle inwards along her starboard side and opened five of her sixteen watertight compartments to the sea; the ship gradually filled with water. Meanwhile, passengers and some crew members were evacuated in lifeboats, many of which were launched only partly loaded. A disproportionate number of men were left aboard because of a "women and children first" protocol followed by some of the officers loading the lifeboats. By 2:20 a.m., she broke apart and foundered, with well over one thousand people still aboard. Just under two hours after Titanic foundered, the Cunard liner RMS Carpathia arrived on the scene of the sinking, where she brought aboard an estimated 705 survivors.WIKI
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Jun 15, 2015 2:15 PM CST the Monday club :)
galrads
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secretagent09: As we've seen in the news, Captains of these huge ships aren't the brightest bulb in the box. Most of them run away from the sinking ship. Re: Costa Concordia, ferry in Korea, Chinese cruise ship.


I've never been on a huge ship. Biggest boat I've been on is the jet-express that is used to quickly bus folks back and forth from Port Clinton, Ohio to Catawba island on Lake Erie.

There used to be an incentive and competition among my friends to go there, party and see who could return with the most Leis.


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Jun 15, 2015 2:29 PM CST the Monday club :)
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Conrad73: After leaving Southampton on 10 April 1912, Titanic called at Cherbourg in France and Queenstown (now Cobh) in Ireland before heading west to New York. On 14 April 1912, four days into the crossing and about 375 miles (600 km) south of Newfoundland, she hit an iceberg at 11:40 p.m. ship's time. The collision caused the ship's hull plates to buckle inwards along her starboard side and opened five of her sixteen watertight compartments to the sea; the ship gradually filled with water. Meanwhile, passengers and some crew members were evacuated in lifeboats, many of which were launched only partly loaded. A disproportionate number of men were left aboard because of a "women and children first" protocol followed by some of the officers loading the lifeboats. By 2:20 a.m., she broke apart and foundered, with well over one thousand people still aboard. Just under two hours after Titanic foundered, the Cunard liner RMS Carpathia arrived on the scene of the sinking, where she brought aboard an estimated 705 survivors.WIKI


I've read all kinds of accounts describing the titanic's fate but no one has ever questioned why the ship did nor did not capsize before going under. To date none of the submersibles have found a large opening in the ship where it struck the iceberg.

Some folks recently have suggested that the crew and passengers could have maneuvered mattresses and life vests over the side of the titanic to the injured area to slow the amount of water entering it, in order to give titanic enough time for the Carpethia to arrive. And, knowing where the Carpethia was at the time, why didn't they evacuate everyone to the iceberg?



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Jun 15, 2015 2:38 PM CST the Monday club :)
I celebrated the start of the week with a cuppa tea. I have now advanced to a glass of wine, and in September I am off to the Titanic museum in Belfast.
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Jun 15, 2015 2:46 PM CST the Monday club :)
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
hoolet: I celebrated the start of the week with a cuppa tea. I have now advanced to a glass of wine, and in September I am off to the Titanic museum in Belfast.


I'd like to see this museum too. I understand the main part of the titanic's dr you-dock doors are cast from the same steel and rivets used in the titanic.
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Jun 15, 2015 2:48 PM CST the Monday club :)
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
I'd like to see this museum too. I understand the main part of the titanic's dr you-dock dry-dock doors are cast from the same steel and rivets used in the titanic.
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