is Europe going to suffocate on the refugee problem? (34)
Iseurolam, better get your women dressed correctly,
close the strip clubs, men only on beach's and sporting grounds,
close the strip clubs, men only on beach's and sporting grounds,
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arapaho: Iseurolam, better get your women dressed correctly,
close the strip clubs, men only on beach's and sporting grounds,
close the strip clubs, men only on beach's and sporting grounds,
And learn some foreign languages.
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When the civilians became refugees during the european wars wasn't nice either.
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think we need to balance the numbers per country though.
cant let Italy and Spain take all the heat cause they're the closest and first port of arival.
cant let Italy and Spain take all the heat cause they're the closest and first port of arival.
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Rogerzoekt: think we need to balance the numbers per country though.
cant let Italy and Spain take all the heat cause they're the closest and first port of arival.
cant let Italy and Spain take all the heat cause they're the closest and first port of arival.
No, they have plenty of room
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The authority which keeps the peace in a balkanised Europe will be quite suffocating.
I believe these refugees should only be housed in neighbourhoods which earn above the average national income(and preferably infected with a new strain of HIV which lowers house prices). The White working class are not a dumping ground for bourgeoisie rehabilitation projects, and diversity should be shared amongst the hipster neighbourhoods if it really is so enriching.
I believe these refugees should only be housed in neighbourhoods which earn above the average national income(and preferably infected with a new strain of HIV which lowers house prices). The White working class are not a dumping ground for bourgeoisie rehabilitation projects, and diversity should be shared amongst the hipster neighbourhoods if it really is so enriching.
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The mistake is in assuming the worst effects relate to the foreigners/refugees in and of themselves. It's not white vs non-white which comes from this, but it's white people at the throats of other white people that's the most damaging aspect of diversity.
It's difficult to imagine a Left and Right so polarised if it wasn't diversity and cultural Marxism. We should be talking about tax policy, the fate of the health services, reforming the EU, and how to compete with the Far East, but we can't build a consensus around these issues because we're faced with an existential threat from the outside that we for the most part invited upon ourselves.
Now I don't believe diversity is the only reason for the division. The Baby Boomers are inflicted with an infantile brain disease and if they're not tribal conservatives/thatcherites or tribal liberals/marxists then they live inside a bubble and disengage from politics and civic life altogether. However, diversity still plays a big part in undermining unity(across and within all groups).
It's difficult to imagine a Left and Right so polarised if it wasn't diversity and cultural Marxism. We should be talking about tax policy, the fate of the health services, reforming the EU, and how to compete with the Far East, but we can't build a consensus around these issues because we're faced with an existential threat from the outside that we for the most part invited upon ourselves.
Now I don't believe diversity is the only reason for the division. The Baby Boomers are inflicted with an infantile brain disease and if they're not tribal conservatives/thatcherites or tribal liberals/marxists then they live inside a bubble and disengage from politics and civic life altogether. However, diversity still plays a big part in undermining unity(across and within all groups).
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tomcatwarne: No, they have plenty of room
And a lot of hotels if someone pay the bill of the refugees.
BTW, Greece is near and they have adequate islands to plant tents for the guests.
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Rogerzoekt: seeing that 1000s of people risk their lives every day to flee from war zones or hunger and despair in Africa and the middle east, Europe suffers under the enormeous amounts of refugees every day.
Italy, Spain, Turkey, Greece get so many people every day they do not know what to do with them any more. thousands waiting in Calais France to cross to England.
the end far from being in sight.
Italy, Spain, Turkey, Greece get so many people every day they do not know what to do with them any more. thousands waiting in Calais France to cross to England.
the end far from being in sight.
YES ,,,For now, we're just focusing the attention on Europe, Sociologists was very clear on this,, this is just more or less same as China,,a sleeping bomb that could explode anytime want it or not ,,
Well in France, the rich lands are still not entirely cultivated, they have to sweat if they wanted to,,
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GUZMAN1: And a lot of hotels if someone pay the bill of the refugees.
BTW, Greece is near and they have adequate islands to plant tents for the guests.
BTW, Greece is near and they have adequate islands to plant tents for the guests.
So you don't want them either? you've got no choice ,,,
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its a problem for Europe as a whole, not and individuals country problem. well it shouldn't be.
but we need to direct our focus to why people are on the run in the first place.
solve the problems there.
unfortunately these countries cant solve any of their own cause they seem to be too busy killing each other.
but we need to direct our focus to why people are on the run in the first place.
solve the problems there.
unfortunately these countries cant solve any of their own cause they seem to be too busy killing each other.
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Obstinance_Works: The mistake is in assuming the worst effects relate to the foreigners/refugees in and of themselves. It's not white vs non-white which comes from this, but it's white people at the throats of other white people that's the most damaging aspect of diversity.
It's difficult to imagine a Left and Right so polarised if it wasn't diversity and cultural Marxism. We should be talking about tax policy, the fate of the health services, reforming the EU, and how to compete with the Far East, but we can't build a consensus around these issues because we're faced with an existential threat from the outside that we for the most part invited upon ourselves.
Now I don't believe diversity is the only reason for the division. The Baby Boomers are inflicted with an infantile brain disease and if they're not tribal conservatives/thatcherites or tribal liberals/marxists then they live inside a bubble and disengage from politics and civic life altogether. However, diversity still plays a big part in undermining unity(across and within all groups).
It's difficult to imagine a Left and Right so polarised if it wasn't diversity and cultural Marxism. We should be talking about tax policy, the fate of the health services, reforming the EU, and how to compete with the Far East, but we can't build a consensus around these issues because we're faced with an existential threat from the outside that we for the most part invited upon ourselves.
Now I don't believe diversity is the only reason for the division. The Baby Boomers are inflicted with an infantile brain disease and if they're not tribal conservatives/thatcherites or tribal liberals/marxists then they live inside a bubble and disengage from politics and civic life altogether. However, diversity still plays a big part in undermining unity(across and within all groups).
The biggest threat is from the newly intelectualisd left wing working classes, their politically correct attitude welcomes everyone in Europe to share our money and limited space. Their newly built Ivory towers are out of touch ans impervious to the effects of their theories.
Ed Milliband was such a creature and the English showed what they thought of him.
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Obstinance_Works: The mistake is in assuming the worst effects relate to the foreigners/refugees in and of themselves. It's not white vs non-white which comes from this, but it's white people at the throats of other white people that's the most damaging aspect of diversity.
It's difficult to imagine a Left and Right so polarised if it wasn't diversity and cultural Marxism. We should be talking about tax policy, the fate of the health services, reforming the EU, and how to compete with the Far East, but we can't build a consensus around these issues because we're faced with an existential threat from the outside that we for the most part invited upon ourselves.
Now I don't believe diversity is the only reason for the division. The Baby Boomers are inflicted with an infantile brain disease and if they're not tribal conservatives/thatcherites or tribal liberals/marxists then they live inside a bubble and disengage from politics and civic life altogether. However, diversity still plays a big part in undermining unity(across and within all groups).
It's difficult to imagine a Left and Right so polarised if it wasn't diversity and cultural Marxism. We should be talking about tax policy, the fate of the health services, reforming the EU, and how to compete with the Far East, but we can't build a consensus around these issues because we're faced with an existential threat from the outside that we for the most part invited upon ourselves.
Now I don't believe diversity is the only reason for the division. The Baby Boomers are inflicted with an infantile brain disease and if they're not tribal conservatives/thatcherites or tribal liberals/marxists then they live inside a bubble and disengage from politics and civic life altogether. However, diversity still plays a big part in undermining unity(across and within all groups).
The biggest threat is from the newly intelectualisd left wing working classes, their politically correct attitude welcomes everyone in Europe to share our money and limited space. Their newly built Ivory towers are out of touch ans impervious to the effects of their theories.
Ed Milliband was such a creature and the English showed what they thought of him.
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Rogerzoekt: its a problem for Europe as a whole, not and individuals country problem. well it shouldn't be.
but we need to direct our focus to why people are on the run in the first place.
solve the problems there.
unfortunately these countries cant solve any of their own cause they seem to be too busy killing each other.
but we need to direct our focus to why people are on the run in the first place.
solve the problems there.
unfortunately these countries cant solve any of their own cause they seem to be too busy killing each other.
I can tell you they look at Australia as the land of milk and honey,
the boats have been stopped for awhile,
free food'
free accommodation
free legal fees
free medical treatment and then
fast tracked into housing commission flats or a house,
an intimate knowledge of what they can get for free
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arapaho: I can tell you they look at Australia as the land of milk and honey,
the boats have been stopped for awhile,
free food'
free accommodation
free legal fees
free medical treatment and then
fast tracked into housing commission flats or a house,
an intimate knowledge of what they can get for free
the boats have been stopped for awhile,
free food'
free accommodation
free legal fees
free medical treatment and then
fast tracked into housing commission flats or a house,
an intimate knowledge of what they can get for free
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tomcatwarne: Well put, it is the same in the UK at the moment.
A Romanian bought his house, in Romania, with British benefits.
In April he appeared in another Channel 5 documentary which followed the lives of Roma gipsies in Britain.
In it he admits he is just planning to stash his benefits to take home to his family in Romania.
He added: 'I know it's very, very easy to take benefits in England… She's give me home free, she's give me money free, she's give me everything.'
David Cameron announced last week that he would ban migrants from claiming benefits for four years after moving to Britain.
But he failed to include a controversial 'emergency break' on migration if the benefit cuts did not lead to a fall in the number of EU workers moving to the UK.
This weekend Labour MP Frank Field warned the debate about immigration in the UK will become 'very nasty' if politicians ignore concerns about the pressures being placed on public services in a time of austerity.
Former minister Mr Field, who co-chairs the cross-party Balanced Migration group, said politicians should be 'tough on the causes of migration' - echoing former prime minister Tony Blair's vow on tackling crime.
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tomcatwarne: A Romanian bought his house, in Romania, with British benefits.
In April he appeared in another Channel 5 documentary which followed the lives of Roma gipsies in Britain.
In it he admits he is just planning to stash his benefits to take home to his family in Romania.
He added: 'I know it's very, very easy to take benefits in England… She's give me home free, she's give me money free, she's give me everything.'
David Cameron announced last week that he would ban migrants from claiming benefits for four years after moving to Britain.
But he failed to include a controversial 'emergency break' on migration if the benefit cuts did not lead to a fall in the number of EU workers moving to the UK.
This weekend Labour MP Frank Field warned the debate about immigration in the UK will become 'very nasty' if politicians ignore concerns about the pressures being placed on public services in a time of austerity.
Former minister Mr Field, who co-chairs the cross-party Balanced Migration group, said politicians should be 'tough on the causes of migration' - echoing former prime minister Tony Blair's vow on tackling crime.
In April he appeared in another Channel 5 documentary which followed the lives of Roma gipsies in Britain.
In it he admits he is just planning to stash his benefits to take home to his family in Romania.
He added: 'I know it's very, very easy to take benefits in England… She's give me home free, she's give me money free, she's give me everything.'
David Cameron announced last week that he would ban migrants from claiming benefits for four years after moving to Britain.
But he failed to include a controversial 'emergency break' on migration if the benefit cuts did not lead to a fall in the number of EU workers moving to the UK.
This weekend Labour MP Frank Field warned the debate about immigration in the UK will become 'very nasty' if politicians ignore concerns about the pressures being placed on public services in a time of austerity.
Former minister Mr Field, who co-chairs the cross-party Balanced Migration group, said politicians should be 'tough on the causes of migration' - echoing former prime minister Tony Blair's vow on tackling crime.
Have seen a documentary about Romanians, they have even more luxurious homes back in Romania than most of the average class in France, but not throw judgement on whatsoever, they return home with tons of scrap metals to be recycled and get enourmous benifits out of it.
When they are in France, they seem to that poor, but it is a camouflage.
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tomcatwarne: The biggest threat is from the newly intelectualisd left wing working classes, their politically correct attitude welcomes everyone in Europe to share our money and limited space. Their newly built Ivory towers are out of touch ans impervious to the effects of their theories.
Ed Milliband was such a creature and the English showed what they thought of him.
Ed Milliband was such a creature and the English showed what they thought of him.
Hi Tom,
You have usd the words {limited space}.No country has limitd space, but vast spaces.But the real problem is when people want to settle near the sea-ports, rivers,oceans, etc.What don't immigrants go into the deep country side, forests, vast open areas and build up new cities there? Ah, that's the problem....people want everything ready ininfrastructure, etc and don't want to work.Take Australia for instance, how much land is there for immigrants, or in Canada.What do you fel Tom?
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Is going to do what it was designed to do : create hatred between people.
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always_besides: Hi Tom,
You have usd the words {limited space}.No country has limitd space, but vast spaces.But the real problem is when people want to settle near the sea-ports, rivers,oceans, etc.What don't immigrants go into the deep country side, forests, vast open areas and build up new cities there? Ah, that's the problem....people want everything ready ininfrastructure, etc and don't want to work.Take Australia for instance, how much land is there for immigrants, or in Canada.What do you fel Tom?
You have usd the words {limited space}.No country has limitd space, but vast spaces.But the real problem is when people want to settle near the sea-ports, rivers,oceans, etc.What don't immigrants go into the deep country side, forests, vast open areas and build up new cities there? Ah, that's the problem....people want everything ready ininfrastructure, etc and don't want to work.Take Australia for instance, how much land is there for immigrants, or in Canada.What do you fel Tom?
Yes, the middle of Australia is perfect for that Northern Canada is also a great choice
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GUZMAN1: When the civilians became refugees during the european wars wasn't nice either.
no it wasn't but you didn't see them invading North Africa either. They were absorbed into other similar cultures for the most part.I think the problem will balance put as migrations often do. The west will absorb the migrations that it can and then when the pressure becomes to great stricter laws will go in place. I think western countries are heading in that direction now.
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Rogerzoekt: seeing that 1000s of people risk their lives every day to flee from war zones or hunger and despair in Africa and the middle east, Europe suffers under the enormeous amounts of refugees every day.
Italy, Spain, Turkey, Greece get so many people every day they do not know what to do with them any more. thousands waiting in Calais France to cross to England.
the end far from being in sight.
Italy, Spain, Turkey, Greece get so many people every day they do not know what to do with them any more. thousands waiting in Calais France to cross to England.
the end far from being in sight.
I'd like to understand what's really the difficulty with Europe helping these refugees.
Is the European society that cold and doesn't want to help all these refugees or maybe Europe is too far left to be able to help?
We've (USA) been faced with silent invasions before by the millions from Mexico and survived. These undocumented Mexican's are very productive here. Honestly, I believe that our own government is responsible for creating unfavorable economic situations so that Mexicans, and others, had to move North to survive.
We took in Castro's boat people people back into he early eighties, especially in Miami.
We helped Berlin with air drops of food and supplies early on in the Cold War.
We are typically first responders when natural disasters occur in the world.
So, why is Europe having any difficulty placing these refugees in, at a minimum, refugee camps until they can become productive in some capacity and then blend in with European cultures?
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galrads: I'd like to understand what's really the difficulty with Europe helping these refugees.
Is the European society that cold and doesn't want to help all these refugees or maybe Europe is too far left to be able to help?
We've (USA) been faced with silent invasions before by the millions from Mexico and survived. These undocumented Mexican's are very productive here. Honestly, I believe that our own government is responsible for creating unfavorable economic situations so that Mexicans, and others, had to move North to survive.
We took in Castro's boat people people back into he early eighties, especially in Miami.
We helped Berlin with air drops of food and supplies early on in the Cold War.
We are typically first responders when natural disasters occur in the world.
So, why is Europe having any difficulty placing these refugees in, at a minimum, refugee camps until they can become productive in some capacity and then blend in with European cultures?
Is the European society that cold and doesn't want to help all these refugees or maybe Europe is too far left to be able to help?
We've (USA) been faced with silent invasions before by the millions from Mexico and survived. These undocumented Mexican's are very productive here. Honestly, I believe that our own government is responsible for creating unfavorable economic situations so that Mexicans, and others, had to move North to survive.
We took in Castro's boat people people back into he early eighties, especially in Miami.
We helped Berlin with air drops of food and supplies early on in the Cold War.
We are typically first responders when natural disasters occur in the world.
So, why is Europe having any difficulty placing these refugees in, at a minimum, refugee camps until they can become productive in some capacity and then blend in with European cultures?
Because many of them are coloured.
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hard to see the difference between the victims, criminals, innocents, real refugees and the ones that just look for an easy benefits life too.
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Rogerzoekt: hard to see the difference between the victims, criminals, innocents, real refugees and the ones that just look for an easy benefits life too.
Would it be to difficult to check for valid legal citizen documentation when and where questionable? If anyone can't produce these documents, why not help them find the closest refugee camps for processing? ... Or, again, is Europe too far Left and subsequently financially unable to help them this way or in other ways.
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well it is difficult.
criminals just throw away their papers and lie about their origins.
the original countries are happy enough to get rid of them.
some just dont supply papers to their inhabitants.
it somehow doesn't feel right to hand out benefits to war criminals, killers, rapists abusers of human rights etc etc.
ofcourse everyone is a poor victim when asked, but the truth is often a bit different.
very hard to spot which is which.
criminals just throw away their papers and lie about their origins.
the original countries are happy enough to get rid of them.
some just dont supply papers to their inhabitants.
it somehow doesn't feel right to hand out benefits to war criminals, killers, rapists abusers of human rights etc etc.
ofcourse everyone is a poor victim when asked, but the truth is often a bit different.
very hard to spot which is which.
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Rogerzoekt: well it is difficult.
criminals just throw away their papers and lie about their origins.
the original countries are happy enough to get rid of them.
some just dont supply papers to their inhabitants.
it somehow doesn't feel right to hand out benefits to war criminals, killers, rapists abusers of human rights etc etc.
ofcourse everyone is a poor victim when asked, but the truth is often a bit different.
very hard to spot which is which.
criminals just throw away their papers and lie about their origins.
the original countries are happy enough to get rid of them.
some just dont supply papers to their inhabitants.
it somehow doesn't feel right to hand out benefits to war criminals, killers, rapists abusers of human rights etc etc.
ofcourse everyone is a poor victim when asked, but the truth is often a bit different.
very hard to spot which is which.
Sounds to me like Europe just doesn't want to do anything except wish the problem would disappear. What happens to the status of refugees having babies while in Europe. And are the babies automatcly Europian if they are born while the mother is in Europe.
We see this baby birth thing becoming an industry here for many mothers especially from Mexico and China.
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is Europe going to suffocate on the refugee problem?(Vote Below)
Italy, Spain, Turkey, Greece get so many people every day they do not know what to do with them any more. thousands waiting in Calais France to cross to England.
the end far from being in sight.