Albert Einstein Says! (107)
MADDOG69: I can see why he said that. His own work and his own theories were artistic. He basically imagined what would happen if we had a fixed value for the speed of light. And it made sense to him. Everything else fell into place after that, concerning his own work.
Apparently it took hum less than a minute to imagine it all, and entire books have been written trying to explain what he realized and saw in those few moments.
warmy67: I think the perception of these groups that we see in the media is the product of the elites - the PC media, PC people who are now the establishment and Politicians.
The perceptions of people who aren't PC or Politicians are based on their own experiences.
The elite don't say these groups are problems in Society.
The perceptions of people who aren't PC or Politicians are based on their own experiences.
The elite don't say these groups are problems in Society.
Society which has objective laws, beliefs, and rules do create the conditions for power structures and the bankrupt idea of "free will". All of these come from top-down in this society. These groups are marginalised because they are not accepted and looked on as "different" by this structure.
warmy67: I don't think you realise who the elite is or what the non-elite think about these groupings.
The elite create the laws and the mind-sets...Funnily enough they do this by understanding that "free-will" is a nonsense concept...
warmy67: Some of the elite have caused financial crises yet how much do you hear the PC movement actually doing anything concrete about it? I thought a party of the left was supposed to be in power yet we get Irish Water with it's high wages and bonuses while yellow pack wages for newly qualified nurses were introduced resulting in Irish nurses moving abroad for work.
You seem to have an issue with the PC brigade. I'd take that up with them. I'm sure though that they wouldn't like being blamed for financial crises. I wouldn't be getting too caught up with labels such as "left" or "right" too much either. Both are just labels used in the current bankrupt, modern system.
warmy67: Business parties run this country aided by a PC party.
I've no real issue with business. However, I'd agree with you when you say they hold too much power. This backs up my earlier suggestion that democracy and representation which derives from "people power" is nonsense. You just back up an earlier point of mine in which I state that "democracy" is also bankrupt.
warmy67: Ordinary low-income Irish people who don't complain are the worst affected and least represented group of all yet the PC media and PC people spend less time advocating on their behalf.
You must really move away from blaming everything on PC people. Modern society is the issue. It all looks good in theory but once you scratch away at the surface a little you find out what is really happening.
warmy67: Life is about people, not issues or groupings.
You'll have to forgive me for not answering this. I really don't understand what it means, whether it was directed at me, or whether it is just one of your beliefs. Feel free to expand on this if you want.
warmy67: I think the perception of these groups that we see in the media is the product of the elites - the PC media, PC people who are now the establishment and Politicians.
The perceptions of people who aren't PC or Politicians are based on their own experiences.
The elite don't say these groups are problems in Society.
I don't think you realise who the elite is or what the non-elite think about these groupings.
Some of the elite have caused financial crises yet how much do you hear the PC movement actually doing anything concrete about it? I thought a party of the left was supposed to be in power yet we get Irish Water with it's high wages and bonuses while yellow pack wages for newly qualified nurses were introduced resulting in Irish nurses moving abroad for work.
Business parties run this country aided by a PC party.
Ordinary low-income Irish people who don't complain are the worst affected and least represented group of all yet the PC media and PC people spend less time advocating on their behalf.
Life is about people, not issues or groupings.
The perceptions of people who aren't PC or Politicians are based on their own experiences.
The elite don't say these groups are problems in Society.
I don't think you realise who the elite is or what the non-elite think about these groupings.
Some of the elite have caused financial crises yet how much do you hear the PC movement actually doing anything concrete about it? I thought a party of the left was supposed to be in power yet we get Irish Water with it's high wages and bonuses while yellow pack wages for newly qualified nurses were introduced resulting in Irish nurses moving abroad for work.
Business parties run this country aided by a PC party.
Ordinary low-income Irish people who don't complain are the worst affected and least represented group of all yet the PC media and PC people spend less time advocating on their behalf.
Life is about people, not issues or groupings.
Before we go even further off topic, let's stick to the points I raised earlier. Although they were technically off topic too...
I argued against a system of objective laws, beliefs, and rules. I said they lead to huge injustices and marginalised groupings.
I argued against the idea of representation and the concept of democracy in this system where we believe in the idea of "one person, one vote".
I stated that these give rise to power structures which give rise to many dogmatic beliefs. I didn't say that all beliefs hold the same power though. I think mine are better than others. But I won't dogmatically insist that other people and cultures follow mine. These power structures can be big or small everyday power relationships.
I did probably bring up some other arguments around these...I don't think a debate in the direction of the PC brigade really answers any of these arguments.
Yeats1980: Society which has objective laws, beliefs, and rules do create the conditions for power structures and the bankrupt idea of "free will". All of these come from top-down in this society. These groups are marginalised because they are not accepted and looked on as "different" by this structure.
The elite create the laws and the mind-sets...Funnily enough they do this by understanding that "free-will" is a nonsense concept...
You seem to have an issue with the PC brigade. I'd take that up with them. I'm sure though that they wouldn't like being blamed for financial crises. I wouldn't be getting too caught up with labels such as "left" or "right" too much either. Both are just labels used in the current bankrupt, modern system.
I've no real issue with business. However, I'd agree with you when you say they hold too much power. This backs up my earlier suggestion that democracy and representation which derives from "people power" is nonsense. You just back up an earlier point of mine in which I state that "democracy" is also bankrupt.
You must really move away from blaming everything on PC people. Modern society is the issue. It all looks good in theory but once you scratch away at the surface a little you find out what is really happening.
You'll have to forgive me for not answering this. I really don't understand what it means, whether it was directed at me, or whether it is just one of your beliefs. Feel free to expand on this if you want.
The elite create the laws and the mind-sets...Funnily enough they do this by understanding that "free-will" is a nonsense concept...
You seem to have an issue with the PC brigade. I'd take that up with them. I'm sure though that they wouldn't like being blamed for financial crises. I wouldn't be getting too caught up with labels such as "left" or "right" too much either. Both are just labels used in the current bankrupt, modern system.
I've no real issue with business. However, I'd agree with you when you say they hold too much power. This backs up my earlier suggestion that democracy and representation which derives from "people power" is nonsense. You just back up an earlier point of mine in which I state that "democracy" is also bankrupt.
You must really move away from blaming everything on PC people. Modern society is the issue. It all looks good in theory but once you scratch away at the surface a little you find out what is really happening.
You'll have to forgive me for not answering this. I really don't understand what it means, whether it was directed at me, or whether it is just one of your beliefs. Feel free to expand on this if you want.
The 'elite' don't create the laws, the people do, the ordinary person on the street.
Yeats1980: Before we go even further off topic, let's stick to the points I raised earlier. Although they were technically off topic too...
I argued against a system of objective laws, beliefs, and rules. I said they lead to huge injustices and marginalised groupings.
I argued against the idea of representation and the concept of democracy in this system where we believe in the idea of "one person, one vote".
I stated that these give rise to power structures which give rise to many dogmatic beliefs. I didn't say that all beliefs hold the same power though. I think mine are better than others. But I won't dogmatically insist that other people and cultures follow mine. These power structures can be big or small everyday power relationships.
I did probably bring up some other arguments around these...I don't think a debate in the direction of the PC brigade really answers any of these arguments.
I argued against a system of objective laws, beliefs, and rules. I said they lead to huge injustices and marginalised groupings.
I argued against the idea of representation and the concept of democracy in this system where we believe in the idea of "one person, one vote".
I stated that these give rise to power structures which give rise to many dogmatic beliefs. I didn't say that all beliefs hold the same power though. I think mine are better than others. But I won't dogmatically insist that other people and cultures follow mine. These power structures can be big or small everyday power relationships.
I did probably bring up some other arguments around these...I don't think a debate in the direction of the PC brigade really answers any of these arguments.
It's the lack of objective laws and beliefs that lead to these marginalised groups in the first place, or at least the lack of enforcement of the laws.
snowlynx: It's the lack of objective laws and beliefs that lead to these marginalised groups in the first place, or at least the lack of enforcement of the laws.
With the part "Lack of objective laws and beliefs", I agree. Simply because the possibility of any is impossible.
Trying to enforce ideas such as these lead to the issues I raised.
On the "lack of enforcement of the laws", this backs up my point that they can never be objective. It usually depends on the "labels"/"power" certain people hold within this societal structure...
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Some of the elite have caused financial crises yet how much do you hear the PC movement actually doing anything concrete about it? I thought a party of the left was supposed to be in power yet we get Irish Water with it's high wages and bonuses while yellow pack wages for newly qualified nurses were introduced resulting in Irish nurses moving abroad for work.
Actually it had nothing to so with yellow pack wages. The truth is that there was a moratorium on hiring new staff for years, meaning that hospitals literally could not hire permanent staff. So the Hospitals had to hire agency nurces to fill gaps at 3 times the price. Otherwise Nurses left becasue they couldn;t get work here as it was against policy to hire them. That moratorium was lifted last year and My sister just got hired at a hospital and she is earning very good money. The person that told you it was because of yellow pack wages was fibbing.
As for Irish water the Job they have to do to fix our neglected water system is utterly massive. its 30 years where people just didn't maintain our water treatment plants or pipes and the whole network is going to have to be replaced. I WANT well paid and competent people running that so it will get done right. If you don't like it you can drink water from the Liffey for free. I'll tell my sis to keep an eye out for you when you are wheeled in with Cholera.