Was Enoch right? (9)
jt972: How could I paraphrase something I've never
Read...
On that note I'll nip this silky thread in the world
Go on the deise!
Read...
On that note I'll nip this silky thread in the world
Go on the deise!
Silly thread in the bud....
jt972: How could I paraphrase something I've never
Read...
On that note I'll nip this silky thread in the world
Go on the deise!
Read...
On that note I'll nip this silky thread in the world
Go on the deise!
So you are just a natural Enoch then. When the foreigners take over there will be rivers of blood. The oppressed Irish man will be downtrodden. Them gays at it on every street corner.
stanley8m: So you are just a natural Enoch then. When the foreigners take over there will be rivers of blood. The oppressed Irish man will be downtrodden. Them gays at it on every street corner.
You forgot to mention the no Irish need
Apply policy countless businesses adopt
Here at the minute... Ah sure ye wouldn't
See that with you're head in the sand
Emu
Look what happenened the Native American
You still refuse to challenge me on that... Because
You're feeble at debates
jt972: You forgot to mention the no Irish need
Apply policy countless businesses adopt
Here at the minute... Ah sure ye wouldn't
See that with you're head in the sand
Emu
Look what happenened the Native American
You still refuse to challenge me on that... Because
You're feeble at debates
Apply policy countless businesses adopt
Here at the minute... Ah sure ye wouldn't
See that with you're head in the sand
Emu
Look what happenened the Native American
You still refuse to challenge me on that... Because
You're feeble at debates
You are seriously comparing the colonial conquest of the New World, with population immigration in 21st century Europe.
You worried about being moved to a reservation then Enoch
stanley8m: You are seriously comparing the colonial conquest of the New World, with population immigration in 21st century Europe.
You worried about being moved to a reservation then Enoch
You worried about being moved to a reservation then Enoch
The slaughter went on untill the beginning of the
Last century, Irish, British, French immigrants contributed
Greatly to the native Americans demise
To this very day they are treated like second class
Citizens in their own country by outsiders
Immigrants
Their culture obviously didn't suit the outsiders
Like western culture is frowned upon by Muslims
Who you want here in mass numbers
The very people you lambasted for the persecution
Of women and gays
You have very conflicting views
@ Sir_T
I agree fully with you that what happened in America in regards to the Native Americans, can in no way be compared with migration issues we are facing. That was a totally different ball game, and to compare it shows a great fear and misunderstanding. A fear though we need to take serious, as it is shared by enough in our Western Nations, and attacking those who are scared, is not the way forward either. This is the strive aimed for, divide people everywhere, when instead we should find understanding for each other and seek peaceful solutions together.
On behalf of the Native Americans, I must however say what you state might look nice on paper, but reservation reality does look quite different (I was over there, even was invited to take part in an Apache Sunrise Dance in San Carlos, one of the most amazing experiences in my life). But the reason Native tribes have been faring bad has nothing to do with our immigrations here. Really doesn't, totally agree with that.
It is also correct many females adopt Western culture, but we have seen a rise in radicalization among younger male muslims, which is also understandable in regards to the Palestine conflict. We really have issues at hand, we need to sort, but too little is done in our names, or even wrong things. What ends perceived is that we do not care, which causes great upsets and can even lead to hate, and in all truth - we do not care, as our own lives keep us busy, our hunt for happiness in form of consumerism, an energy we should invest into making ourselves smart what is actually happening beyond our tidy borders - in our name and for our life style.
I include myself in this shortcoming, btw, by a big margin, as I basically for most parts have turned my back on it all, not even watching TV anymore, now just writing long pointless posts every now and then, instead of actively trying to change the world
I agree fully with you that what happened in America in regards to the Native Americans, can in no way be compared with migration issues we are facing. That was a totally different ball game, and to compare it shows a great fear and misunderstanding. A fear though we need to take serious, as it is shared by enough in our Western Nations, and attacking those who are scared, is not the way forward either. This is the strive aimed for, divide people everywhere, when instead we should find understanding for each other and seek peaceful solutions together.
On behalf of the Native Americans, I must however say what you state might look nice on paper, but reservation reality does look quite different (I was over there, even was invited to take part in an Apache Sunrise Dance in San Carlos, one of the most amazing experiences in my life). But the reason Native tribes have been faring bad has nothing to do with our immigrations here. Really doesn't, totally agree with that.
It is also correct many females adopt Western culture, but we have seen a rise in radicalization among younger male muslims, which is also understandable in regards to the Palestine conflict. We really have issues at hand, we need to sort, but too little is done in our names, or even wrong things. What ends perceived is that we do not care, which causes great upsets and can even lead to hate, and in all truth - we do not care, as our own lives keep us busy, our hunt for happiness in form of consumerism, an energy we should invest into making ourselves smart what is actually happening beyond our tidy borders - in our name and for our life style.
I include myself in this shortcoming, btw, by a big margin, as I basically for most parts have turned my back on it all, not even watching TV anymore, now just writing long pointless posts every now and then, instead of actively trying to change the world
Tinypaws: @ Sir_T
I agree fully with you that what happened in America in regards to the Native Americans, can in no way be compared with migration issues we are facing. That was a totally different ball game, and to compare it shows a great fear and misunderstanding. A fear though we need to take serious, as it is shared by enough in our Western Nations, and attacking those who are scared, is not the way forward either. This is the strive aimed for, divide people everywhere, when instead we should find understanding for each other and seek peaceful solutions together.
On behalf of the Native Americans, I must however say what you state might look nice on paper, but reservation reality does look quite different (I was over there, even was invited to take part in an Apache Sunrise Dance in San Carlos, one of the most amazing experiences in my life). But the reason Native tribes have been faring bad has nothing to do with our immigrations here. Really doesn't, totally agree with that.
It is also correct many females adopt Western culture, but we have seen a rise in radicalization among younger male muslims, which is also understandable in regards to the Palestine conflict. We really have issues at hand, we need to sort, but too little is done in our names, or even wrong things. What ends perceived is that we do not care, which causes great upsets and can even lead to hate, and in all truth - we do not care, as our own lives keep us busy, our hunt for happiness in form of consumerism, an energy we should invest into making ourselves smart what is actually happening beyond our tidy borders - in our name and for our life style.
I include myself in this shortcoming, btw, by a big margin, as I basically for most parts have turned my back on it all, not even watching TV anymore, now just writing long pointless posts every now and then, instead of actively trying to change the world
I agree fully with you that what happened in America in regards to the Native Americans, can in no way be compared with migration issues we are facing. That was a totally different ball game, and to compare it shows a great fear and misunderstanding. A fear though we need to take serious, as it is shared by enough in our Western Nations, and attacking those who are scared, is not the way forward either. This is the strive aimed for, divide people everywhere, when instead we should find understanding for each other and seek peaceful solutions together.
On behalf of the Native Americans, I must however say what you state might look nice on paper, but reservation reality does look quite different (I was over there, even was invited to take part in an Apache Sunrise Dance in San Carlos, one of the most amazing experiences in my life). But the reason Native tribes have been faring bad has nothing to do with our immigrations here. Really doesn't, totally agree with that.
It is also correct many females adopt Western culture, but we have seen a rise in radicalization among younger male muslims, which is also understandable in regards to the Palestine conflict. We really have issues at hand, we need to sort, but too little is done in our names, or even wrong things. What ends perceived is that we do not care, which causes great upsets and can even lead to hate, and in all truth - we do not care, as our own lives keep us busy, our hunt for happiness in form of consumerism, an energy we should invest into making ourselves smart what is actually happening beyond our tidy borders - in our name and for our life style.
I include myself in this shortcoming, btw, by a big margin, as I basically for most parts have turned my back on it all, not even watching TV anymore, now just writing long pointless posts every now and then, instead of actively trying to change the world
I think you will find that Native Americans are faring not too badly in most instances. Tax exemptions and gambling licenses have resulted in some very wealthy tribes. Oh and as the native population have enthusiastically adopted a civil rights approach, they are a force to be reckoned with in the courts. Check out Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act (NAGPRA).
stanley8m: I think you will find that Native Americans are faring not too badly in most instances. Tax exemptions and gambling licenses have resulted in some very wealthy tribes. Oh and as the native population have enthusiastically adopted a civil rights approach, they are a force to be reckoned with in the courts. Check out Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act (NAGPRA).
Yes, there is a shift happening, also in courts, but many tribes still fare badly. I have seen very bad conditions, but for many tribes this has also to do with still hanging on to what they have lost, feeling unable to continue with a former life style, unable to find a new direction. Tribes who were nomadic, I think, were especially bad hit, while tribes who had already adopted a farming/settling life style, managed better.
It is still early days though, really, for this. In the future I see them recover, they have a huge pride, they just need ways to direct this pride to the best benefit, and I am certain they eventually will, the shift in courts to me being one indication.
Naught to do with immigration here, a totally different situation as Sir_T correctly stated.
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