Read and Weep (or laugh) New Gun law in Maine ( Archived) (9)

Oct 15, 2015 1:03 AM CST Read and Weep (or laugh) New Gun law in Maine
Ken_19
Ken_19Ken_19Winchester, Virginia USA68 Threads 26 Polls 1,055 Posts
THE NEW CONCEALED HANDGUN LAW WENT INTO EFFECT TODAY (10/15)--- Public Law 2015, Chapter 327 (LD 652), “An Act To Authorize the Carrying of Concealed Handguns without a Permit,” allows a person who is not otherwise prohibited from possessing a firearm to carry a concealed handgun in Maine without a permit. This law also authorizes a person to possess a loaded pistol or revolver while in a motor vehicle, trailer or other vehicle being hauled by a motor vehicle. Concealed carry without a permit is limited to people who are 21 or older, with the following exception: If a person is 18 years of age or older, and is on active duty in the Armed Forces of the United States or the National Guard, or has been honorably discharged from the Armed Forces or the National Guard, and is not otherwise prohibited from carrying a firearm, the person may carry a concealed handgun. A person who is 18-20 years old and without the referenced military qualifications must have a permit to carry concealed. The law applies to both residents of Maine and non-residents.

It will still be illegal to possess a firearm in the following places, with some very limited exceptions:

• Courthouses (17-A M.R.S. § 1058)
• State Parks (12 M.R.S. § 1803(6), (7) and Bureau of Parks and Lands Rules Chapter 1)
• Acadia National Park (12 M.R.S. § 756)
• Schools (20-A M.R.S. § 6552)
• Federal buildings (18 U.S.C. § 930)
• State Capitol area (25 M.R.S. § 2904 & DPS Rule Chapter 41)
• Private property when prohibited by the property owner
• Establishments licensed for on-premises consumption of liquor, if the premises are posted. Note that even if there is no posted prohibition, it is illegal to carry on these premises while under the influence of intoxicating liquor or drugs. (17-A M.R.S. §1057)

A concealed handgun permit is still required to carry in --

• Acadia National Park (Permit required; 12 M.R.S. §756)
• State Parks (Permit required; open carry not permitted; 12 M.R.S. § 1803(7))
• Regular archery hunting-deer only (Permit required; 12 MRS § 11403)
• Employees’ vehicles on work premises (Permit required; vehicle must be locked and firearm must not be visible; 26 M.R.S. §600)

If an individual is carrying a concealed handgun without a permit, he/she has a duty, when coming into contact with any law enforcement officer during a routine stop, detention or arrest, to immediately inform the law enforcement officer that the individual is carrying a concealed handgun.

The law applies only to handguns. The new law does NOT authorize persons who are prohibited from possessing firearms to carry them. If a person is prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm, this law does nothing to change that prohibition.

Source: Maine State Police
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Oct 15, 2015 2:10 AM CST Read and Weep (or laugh) New Gun law in Maine
MikeD12
MikeD12MikeD12Broadstairs, Kent, England UK16 Threads 2 Polls 2,809 Posts
Nothing surprises me about your Nation's attitude to guns anymore.
Yesterday after a club meeting a couple of us went to my local and there were two arrogant Right wing republican red neck allegedly hard puss heads bragging about right to carry guns saying that they had them.

We only came in at the last couple of minutes, but we heard the crap and saw the ambient feelings by the silence and hard looks but then both were frog marched outside the pub on the street and howling in pain and with all their legs broken in about 20 seconds with no weapons. They had knives and only then were the police called.
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Oct 15, 2015 2:15 AM CST Read and Weep (or laugh) New Gun law in Maine
Cocheta
CochetaCochetaunknown, Western Cape South Africa1 Threads 2,021 Posts
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Oct 15, 2015 2:32 AM CST Read and Weep (or laugh) New Gun law in Maine
serena123
serena123serena123durban, KwaZulu-Natal South Africa44 Threads 2 Polls 2,821 Posts
Here, if you have a licence to carry a Gun you can..I have a 38 special
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Oct 15, 2015 3:03 AM CST Read and Weep (or laugh) New Gun law in Maine
In response to: THE NEW CONCEALED HANDGUN LAW WENT INTO EFFECT TODAY (10/15)--- Public Law 2015, Chapter 327 (LD 652), “An Act To Authorize the Carrying of Concealed Handguns without a Permit,” allows a person who is not otherwise prohibited from possessing a firearm to carry a concealed handgun in Maine without a permit. This law also authorizes a person to possess a loaded pistol or revolver while in a motor vehicle, trailer or other vehicle being hauled by a motor vehicle. Concealed carry without a permit is limited to people who are 21 or older, with the following exception: If a person is 18 years of age or older, and is on active duty in the Armed Forces of the United States or the National Guard, or has been honorably discharged from the Armed Forces or the National Guard, and is not otherwise prohibited from carrying a firearm, the person may carry a concealed handgun. A person who is 18-20 years old and without the referenced military qualifications must have a permit to carry concealed. The law applies to both residents of Maine and non-residents.

It will still be illegal to possess a firearm in the following places, with some very limited exceptions:

• Courthouses (17-A M.R.S. § 1058)
• State Parks (12 M.R.S. § 1803(6), (7) and Bureau of Parks and Lands Rules Chapter 1)
• Acadia National Park (12 M.R.S. § 756)
• Schools (20-A M.R.S. § 6552)
• Federal buildings (18 U.S.C. § 930)
• State Capitol area (25 M.R.S. § 2904 & DPS Rule Chapter 41)
• Private property when prohibited by the property owner
• Establishments licensed for on-premises consumption of liquor, if the premises are posted. Note that even if there is no posted prohibition, it is illegal to carry on these premises while under the influence of intoxicating liquor or drugs. (17-A M.R.S. §1057)

A concealed handgun permit is still required to carry in --

• Acadia National Park (Permit required; 12 M.R.S. §756)
• State Parks (Permit required; open carry not permitted; 12 M.R.S. § 1803(7))
• Regular archery hunting-deer only (Permit required; 12 MRS § 11403)
• Employees’ vehicles on work premises (Permit required; vehicle must be locked and firearm must not be visible; 26 M.R.S. §600)

If an individual is carrying a concealed handgun without a permit, he/she has a duty, when coming into contact with any law enforcement officer during a routine stop, detention or arrest, to immediately inform the law enforcement officer that the individual is carrying a concealed handgun.

The law applies only to handguns. The new law does NOT authorize persons who are prohibited from possessing firearms to carry them. If a person is prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm, this law does nothing to change that prohibition.

Source: Maine State Police
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Oct 15, 2015 3:18 AM CST Read and Weep (or laugh) New Gun law in Maine
Dragos1
Dragos1Dragos1Metro, Oregon USA54 Threads 1 Polls 1,982 Posts
In Oregon the big news has been the legalization of marijuana for recreational use, though many still go for the medical card to avoid a lot of taxation. It is interesting because even though they are probably not supposed to, I see many men and women sharing a joint while on the way in or out of the shopping mall and so on.
Maybe Oregon and other states will follow in suit the changes that Maine has made to current gun carry laws.
"They be puffin' and packin'"
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Oct 15, 2015 5:06 AM CST Read and Weep (or laugh) New Gun law in Maine
Are all those in charge (security etc.) at those places that are prohibited from concealed handguns going to be checking absolutely everybody that comes in every day of the year for concealed weapons? Can't see that working somehow! I'm sure they're trying to do their best but.....

Imo, (in an ideal world, I know) there should be no guns allowed at all by anyone or knives (except in the kitchen or restaurants for cooking only) or any deadly weapon. If madmen or those who can't control their anger hurt anyone, intentional or not, they'd just have to use their bare hands and there would be a lot less victims.
Hunting should be banned also at this day and age. Grow your own food if you don't like supermarket food and buy your meat at the butchers. Hunting animals for sport is so cruel and wrong, so no excuse!

You might think, she's not American, what's it to her? but people travel to other countries and should be able to do so safely in this world of ours. Not have to be afraid of some mad gunman or men in a shopping mall or wherever.
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Oct 15, 2015 8:15 AM CST Read and Weep (or laugh) New Gun law in Maine
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
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Oct 15, 2015 1:19 PM CST Read and Weep (or laugh) New Gun law in Maine
Ken_19
Ken_19Ken_19Winchester, Virginia USA68 Threads 26 Polls 1,055 Posts
Actually possessing marijuana and a gun at the same time is a Federal charge for sure. We agree that because President Obama doesn't want to make waves the Dept of Justice has been postponing the enforcement of Federal laws in several states. However, on the other side of the coin I know for a fact papers in several states have been drawn up by DEA and ATF for mass arrests of marijuana vendors (and asset forfeiture) and submitted to DOJ (DOJ doesn't like street arrests by Federal agents and much prefers to review each case first before agreeing the case will be prosecuted, and most US Judges (who also work for DOJ) will usually throw out any case with an arrest report not initialed as approved by a Federal prosecutor.) and some requests for prosecution have been sitting without any response for over a year now. This inaction of course allowed things to snowball, so if a future President says go ahead on those prosecutions and raids in those states, a virtual civil war may result.

What I do not, in the least, like about the new Maine law is that it lacks what I think should have been a per-requisite. A training requirement. That all embarking on such a lifestyle both attended and passed an NRA gun safety class that includes a review of when a gun can legally come out of a holster to be used and when it can't, and of course a brief section on keeping the gun away from small children. Instead it became, if you are 21 years old, stick one in your pocket.

This is the situation that led an untrained, but licensed for concealed carry anyway woman in Detroit to last week pull out her pistol and blaze away in a public parking lot at someone accused of a shoplifting and also his get away car being driven by someone, who may have known nothing at all of the alleged offense and was merely fleeing the woman shooting at his car (and of course him too since he was in the car).

As someone who carries, I found that very uncool. Where did the bullets go? Yes, 1 of the 8 shots hit a tire of the getaway car which crashed elsewhere. The other 7? Who knows. Since no one has reported finding a corpse a 1/2 mile away yet, I guess she didn't hit any bystanders. What crime of violence did she witness? None. What is the dollar value of what he tried to steal (the difference is misdemeanor or felony value, in some states shooting a fleeing felon (of any kind) is still okay)? She didn't know. Did the alleged crime even happen? She didn't know. Whose life was in danger when she decided to pull a pistol from her purse and shoot at a running man? No ones life was in danger. The incident was on October 6, and on October 13th she was (finally) charged (and arraigned) with reckless endangerment by firearm, and faces a $500 fine. The suspects were apprehended last week. She is a 46 year old Hispanic, the suspects are black.

Training in when you can shoot, or not shoot, would have prevented the incident. I am hopeful Maine will amend the law to require evidence of training exists somewhere.

The US doesn't depend on tourism for it's economy. Sure some small towns do, but not most of the country. So if some people feel the lax attitude towards firearms means they can't come to the US, rest assured, no one here loses any sleep over that.
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