China, in an all out war against the world. ( Archived) (40)

Oct 15, 2015 11:20 AM CST China, in an all out war against the world.
Being the solid creditor in the IMF, I truly believe that China has its advantage of being able to win an all out war otherwise, if what I am thinking is right, all those loans are just but a piece of paper.

Its arsenal being built on a disputed island is a solid proof that it knows what is coming....
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Oct 15, 2015 1:36 PM CST China, in an all out war against the world.
Ken_19
Ken_19Ken_19Winchester, Virginia USA68 Threads 26 Polls 1,055 Posts
So your question is?
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Oct 15, 2015 2:12 PM CST China, in an all out war against the world.
Ken_19: So your question is?


Thanks for asking Ken, my question is, will there be a possibility that this is coming? I mean an all out war? And possibly her arrogance on the building of the disputed island? I think I just threw it out there as a mode of thinking.
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Oct 15, 2015 3:39 PM CST China, in an all out war against the world.
Len05
Len05Len05Antwerp, Antwerpen Belgium33 Threads 11 Polls 972 Posts
so far i don't see china as worldwide aggressive.
they will have nternal struggles to survive first.
the lack of females.
the internal wealth gap.
the ecological problem.
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Oct 15, 2015 4:39 PM CST China, in an all out war against the world.
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Btw Mexico has recently signed a commercial agreement with China so war is not in it.
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Oct 15, 2015 4:41 PM CST China, in an all out war against the world.
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Len05: so far i don't see china as worldwide aggressive.
they will have nternal struggles to survive first.laugh
the lack of females. that is not a problem
the internal wealth gap. not exclusive to China
the ecological problem.
not exclusive to China

cool
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Oct 15, 2015 4:58 PM CST China, in an all out war against the world.
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
lindsyjones: Being the solid creditor in the IMF, I truly believe that China has its advantage of being able to win an all out war otherwise, if what I am thinking is right, all those loans are just but a piece of paper.

Its arsenal being built on a disputed island is a solid proof that it knows what is coming....


Education, knowledge and technology extraction are the fundamental reasons why China props up the West. Once they outstrip us by every measure my concern would be a China which walls itself off from the world, taking the brightest minds and the engine of the economy with it.
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Oct 15, 2015 5:28 PM CST China, in an all out war against the world.
Obstinance_Works: Education, knowledge and technology extraction are the fundamental reasons why China props up the West. Once they outstrip us by every measure my concern would be a China which walls itself off from the world, taking the brightest minds and the engine of the economy with it.


Now that is a great possibility Obs and what is good about it is that it keeps the world on its toes.
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Oct 15, 2015 6:09 PM CST China, in an all out war against the world.
Ocee102
Ocee102Ocee102unkown, California USA10 Threads 1,399 Posts
lindsyjones: Ocee, I like that kind of thinking. Wheww...what a number that is. It was once published on the Time Magazine that one of the fastest growing country in the planet when it comes to economic power is China, and of course, that is because like I said once: The major retailer "Walmart" market all their products and it was reported that for every single store in the US, it generates at least $200,000 a day. That is a lot of money..


Our vulnerability, is our electoral process.

We might need to ask ourselves how much influence china has over the likes of Walmart, who's interest Walmart money is really serving as a result of that influence, and how much of that type of money/influence we want to allow in our electoral process through "corporate" donations.


We also should consider that when push comes to shove, how many US companies who've moved manufacturing to China, will try to influence through elections US/Chinese policy because they'll go under if relations deteriorate.

Corporate campaign contributions are an open a back door

at the White House any interest/influence can walk through,

for a price.
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Oct 15, 2015 8:52 PM CST China, in an all out war against the world.
Ocee102: Our vulnerability, is our electoral process.

We might need to ask ourselves how much influence china has over the likes of Walmart, who's interest Walmart money is really serving as a result of that influence, and how much of that type of money/influence we want to allow in our electoral process through "corporate" donations.We also should consider that when push comes to shove, how many US companies who've moved manufacturing to China, will try to influence through elections US/Chinese policy because they'll go under if relations deteriorate.

Corporate campaign contributions are an open a back door

at the White House any interest/influence can walk through,

for a price.


I am inclined to believe that money talks and if they do push such influence on certain policies, well we're in for a big play on corruption. Worse than staging a war.

Anyways if it helps I don't patronize Walmart because of lack of good ethics. Imagine how many employees lacking health insurance.
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Oct 15, 2015 9:10 PM CST China, in an all out war against the world.
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
lindsey thinks she is the fox news babysitter of this site,

the bottom line is the chineeeese,russia,india have been Dumping all treasury notes to buy the comex, GLD and chase gold and silver on the cheap, they have amassed tons and tons of the shiny metals to back up their new currencies.

the west including the the UK is scrambling to keep the vaults full and prints money to cover all the massive global debt, most all the bars have been shipped to shanghai and if you think gold or silver is not money than why to they short it every morning looking for weak hands to sell back to them if the vaults were not on empty,

think for yourself...

do your own research,
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Oct 16, 2015 5:41 AM CST China, in an all out war against the world.
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
lindsyjones: Now that is a great possibility Obs and what is good about it is that it keeps the world on its toes.


Surpass our knowledge and technology and build their own Oxbridge, develop their own market to absorb Chinese production without relying on exports, dominate the far east and use the rest of the world(particularly Africa and South America)as a supply of raw materials.

That could be one of the power blocs in tomorrow's global power of three(or maybe four).
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Oct 16, 2015 5:53 AM CST China, in an all out war against the world.
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Obstinance_Works: Surpass our knowledge and technology and build their own Oxbridge, develop their own market to absorb Chinese production without relying on exports, dominate the far east and use the rest of the world(particularly Africa and South America)as a supply of raw materials.

That could be one of the power blocs in tomorrow's global power of three(or maybe four).


That's the real point of being the creditor for them imo, not to ever get paid back in money, but to continue to facilitate the transfer of everything that makes money from West to East.
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Oct 16, 2015 8:19 AM CST China, in an all out war against the world.
JoyCrest
JoyCrestJoyCrestGeneva, Switzerland18 Threads 494 Posts
lindsyjones: Being the solid creditor in the IMF, I truly believe that China has its advantage of being able to win an all out war otherwise, if what I am thinking is right, all those loans are just but a piece of paper.

Its arsenal being built on a disputed island is a solid proof that it knows what is coming....

Indeed, China is set to win an all out war.... as you know China is always very much awake and alive. Be aware, the Chinese never sleeps, they work 24 hours a day, not following specific labor laws. This is not just talking about economic or financial aspect.
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Oct 16, 2015 9:03 AM CST China, in an all out war against the world.
crayons: lindsey thinks she is the fox news babysitter of this site,

the bottom line is the chineeeese,russia,india have been Dumping all treasury notes to buy the comex, GLD and chase gold and silver on the cheap, they have amassed tons and tons of the shiny metals to back up their new currencies.

the west including the the UK is scrambling to keep the vaults full and prints money to cover all the massive global debt, most all the bars have been shipped to shanghai and if you think gold or silver is not money than why to they short it every morning looking for weak hands to sell back to them if the vaults were not on empty,

think for yourself...

do your own research,


lol Crayons, they should pay me then. But the truth is that on the news, we can't ever stage or present an input. While here we can react and discuss about possibilities and it makes it very interesting. The dynamics we experience is well orchestrated to make our minds opened up to some possibilities. I used to just read them before instead of just watch television but here, the reactions of everyone makes it very engaging and interesting.
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Oct 16, 2015 9:05 AM CST China, in an all out war against the world.
lindsyjones: lol Crayons, they should pay me then. But the truth is that on the news, we can't ever stage or present an input. While here we can react and discuss about possibilities and it makes it very interesting. The dynamics we experience is well orchestrated to make our minds opened up to some possibilities. I used to just read them before instead of just watch television but here, the reactions of everyone makes it very engaging and interesting.


On your note, it is very interesting how we just print all the monies without any value and equation to solid assets anymore. But interestingly neither is the value of the money have been inflated. Quite questionable from the stand point of defining who got what. Anyways, I am feeling that China is enjoying the pride of becoming an economic power, I guess.
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Oct 16, 2015 9:13 AM CST China, in an all out war against the world.
Obstinance_Works: Surpass our knowledge and technology and build their own Oxbridge, develop their own market to absorb Chinese production without relying on exports, dominate the far east and use the rest of the world(particularly Africa and South America)as a supply of raw materials.

That could be one of the power blocs in tomorrow's global power of three(or maybe four).


I also read about their move on buying lands and goody goody relationship in Africa. This explains their serious move to dominate the world. Just saying.
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Oct 16, 2015 9:15 AM CST China, in an all out war against the world.
Obstinance_Works: That's the real point of being the creditor for them imo, not to ever get paid back in money, but to continue to facilitate the transfer of everything that makes money from West to East.


Ultimately, it will make them a power player on almost everything else. As the holder of the biggest number in population, I believe they need to find a way to accommodate their need.
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Oct 16, 2015 9:17 AM CST China, in an all out war against the world.
JoyCrest: Indeed, China is set to win an all out war.... as you know China is always very much awake and alive. Be aware, the Chinese never sleeps, they work 24 hours a day, not following specific labor laws. This is not just talking about economic or financial aspect.


Thanks Joy. Yes of course, they are hard working I am sure of that, but they are also very capable of treachery and callousness.

I can't delete but I will request for the mods to do it.

Thanks Joy.sad flower hug
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Oct 16, 2015 1:02 PM CST China, in an all out war against the world.
Da_Moose
Da_MooseDa_MooseWestlock, Alberta Canada57 Threads 1,839 Posts
Standing army conventional all out war? China would indeed be FORMIDABLE! ALL OUT WAR unleashing nuclear arsenals? China versus the UK....China versus France....both would be fair fights.....but versus the USA or Russia? China's arsenal is not even close! Between Russia and the US if I remember correctly they have nearly 15,000 of the 18000 planetary warheads,...and Russia I think has 2 or 3 hundred more than the USA. China with its massive population and apparent sabre-rattling as of late sure do LOOK scary,....but Russia and the USA are the REAL powers on this planet,....when push comes to shove in warfare,....economy becomes a very secondary factor if ALL OUT WAR breaks out.....both Russia and the USA have amazing armament ready to go,....just waiting,....it doesn't have to be constructed or financed,.....and rest assured, China is aware of this and just playing "catch-up".
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