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A major battle in a war over the future of Western civilization has been lost as millions of migrants from the Middle East who largely oppose Judeo-Christian values and have no intention of assimilating flood the United States, Britain, France, Germany and other nations, talk-radio host Michael Savage told his listeners Tuesday.
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if the refugee camps in Jordan Lebanon and Turkey had been better funded and had better resources available the migration to Europe would have never taken place.. and the problem could have been handled for pennies on the dollar opposed to what it will now cost. again. the Western world gets it wrong..
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lindsyjones: This thread only wants to discuss and focus on how this crises can be solved:
Suggestions as to how it can be fixed without being inhuman and yet without having to lose Europe as it is.
NO MORE BLAIMING WHO STARTED IT, NO MORE WHO IS WRONG OR RIGHT..Just plain, what would you recommend to do right now, considering what is going on?
Anyone?
Suggestions as to how it can be fixed without being inhuman and yet without having to lose Europe as it is.
NO MORE BLAIMING WHO STARTED IT, NO MORE WHO IS WRONG OR RIGHT..Just plain, what would you recommend to do right now, considering what is going on?
Anyone?
I cannot comment for this is an "impossible" question,....you have stated within your question that Europe must not evolve,...that it must be maintained in its present state,....7.3 billion people and climbing,...its gonna get real fun was we hit double digits!
You ask for "humanity" but do not want to see Europe change,....okay,...no change,....don't let them in....oh yeah,...but they keep coming.....do you begin to see the redundancy of the question? There will be solution,....however, it will require CHANGE!
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lindsyjones: This thread only wants to discuss and focus on how this crises can be solved:
Suggestions as to how it can be fixed without being inhuman and yet without having to lose Europe as it is.
NO MORE BLAIMING WHO STARTED IT, NO MORE WHO IS WRONG OR RIGHT..Just plain, what would you recommend to do right now, considering what is going on?
Anyone?
Suggestions as to how it can be fixed without being inhuman and yet without having to lose Europe as it is.
NO MORE BLAIMING WHO STARTED IT, NO MORE WHO IS WRONG OR RIGHT..Just plain, what would you recommend to do right now, considering what is going on?
Anyone?
Okay it makes sense, what I meant is that without wiping Europe completely, I mean assimilation that best suits and maintain Europe.
And yes change will have to take place but not as radical as dominated by one religion.
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Da_Moose: I cannot comment for this is an "impossible" question,....you have stated within your question that Europe must not evolve,...that it must be maintained in its present state,....7.3 billion people and climbing,...its gonna get real fun was we hit double digits!
You ask for "humanity" but do not want to see Europe change,....okay,...no change,....don't let them in....oh yeah,...but they keep coming.....do you begin to see the redundancy of the question? There will be solution,....however, it will require CHANGE!
You ask for "humanity" but do not want to see Europe change,....okay,...no change,....don't let them in....oh yeah,...but they keep coming.....do you begin to see the redundancy of the question? There will be solution,....however, it will require CHANGE!
Moose, what a very crucial point you expressed on here. I do apologize. Of course, change is important, but something that will not wipe out Europe completely with all its glory. I would have to consider assimilation without resistance. Kind of like America (US) right now.
My point is that: Here we are with a very difficult situation. So many migrants are getting into Europe and we all know by now that they are not all refugees. If there is any, it is a very percentage. There is a dominant religious ways of life and culture coming in, which to my knowledge are very intolerant to other religion. Considering all these variables, what do we have to do now?
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stringman: A major battle in a war over the future of Western civilization has been lost as millions of migrants from the Middle East who largely oppose Judeo-Christian values and have no intention of assimilating flood the United States, Britain, France, Germany and other nations, talk-radio host Michael Savage told his listeners Tuesday.
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String, I will look at it later but for right now, we all know what is going on at the moment.
I will definitely want to hear on both side of the fence, what can we do right now, considering all the facts in our hands.
Thanks.
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JustBrian: if the refugee camps in Jordan Lebanon and Turkey had been better funded and had better resources available the migration to Europe would have never taken place.. and the problem could have been handled for pennies on the dollar opposed to what it will now cost. again. the Western world gets it wrong..
Well can we go back and work on it? I mean from here, where will we get the resources to make it sustainable?
I would definitely support the refugee camp and then figure out how to make it workable for all the refugees.
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lindsyjones: String, I will look at it later but for right now, we all know what is going on at the moment.
I will definitely want to hear on both side of the fence, what can we do right now, considering all the facts in our hands.
Thanks.
I will definitely want to hear on both side of the fence, what can we do right now, considering all the facts in our hands.
Thanks.
stop the migration. but we the people can't do it because our brainless leaders don't want to. and we the people are being controlled and have not got a voice anymore, or they do not understand what is going on.
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lindsyjones: String, I will look at it later but for right now, we all know what is going on at the moment.
I will definitely want to hear on both side of the fence, what can we do right now, considering all the facts in our hands.
Thanks.
String, now let us say we all agree on stopping the migration. Regardless of how the brainless leaders feel, how and where would we start?I will definitely want to hear on both side of the fence, what can we do right now, considering all the facts in our hands.
Thanks.
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JustBrian: if the refugee camps in Jordan Lebanon and Turkey had been better funded and had better resources available the migration to Europe would have never taken place.. and the problem could have been handled for pennies on the dollar opposed to what it will now cost. again. the Western world gets it wrong..
Brian, I really would love to hear from you as a direct response to what is going to be done now. Not tomorrow, not in the next week, now.
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lindsyjones: Moose, what a very crucial point you expressed on here. I do apologize. Of course, change is important, but something that will not wipe out Europe completely with all its glory. I would have to consider assimilation without resistance. Kind of like America (US) right now.
My point is that: Here we are with a very difficult situation. So many migrants are getting into Europe and we all know by now that they are not all refugees. If there is any, it is a very percentage. There is a dominant religious ways of life and culture coming in, which to my knowledge are very intolerant to other religion. Considering all these variables, what do we have to do now?
My point is that: Here we are with a very difficult situation. So many migrants are getting into Europe and we all know by now that they are not all refugees. If there is any, it is a very percentage. There is a dominant religious ways of life and culture coming in, which to my knowledge are very intolerant to other religion. Considering all these variables, what do we have to do now?
Hell,...I am Canadian,...and PS - this was before....he IS NOW our leader....
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lindsyjones: String, now let us say we all agree on stopping the migration. Regardless of how the brainless leaders feel, how and where would we start?
I do not hear the people protesting about it. America use to speak out about something they did not like not anymore, the gov. is running the country they way they want to, people do not have a say in anything. at least that is the way I see it. same in Canada too.
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stringman: I do not hear the people protesting about it. America use to speak out about something they did not like not anymore, the gov. is running the country they way they want to, people do not have a say in anything. at least that is the way I see it. same in Canada too.
Well do I hear that majority of the people are not represented anymore? and so whatever we propose or feel doesn't count?
Is that why Merkel opened her gate in the first place?
I don't want to stop thinking until someone do something that would be agreeable and tolerated by the majority. In other words, we stop the migration. Create a camp. Put them all there. then what?
I think my immediate solution proposal is to create a border. Make sure that these economic migrants are discouraged to cross. Let them get the message that Europe is not open for them to just go and settle. Maybe?
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lindsyjones: Well do I hear that majority of the people are not represented anymore? and so whatever we propose or feel doesn't count?
Is that why Merkel opened her gate in the first place?
I don't want to stop thinking until someone do something that would be agreeable and tolerated by the majority. In other words, we stop the migration. Create a camp. Put them all there. then what?
I think my immediate solution proposal is to create a border. Make sure that these economic migrants are discouraged to cross. Let them get the message that Europe is not open for them to just go and settle. Maybe?
Is that why Merkel opened her gate in the first place?
I don't want to stop thinking until someone do something that would be agreeable and tolerated by the majority. In other words, we stop the migration. Create a camp. Put them all there. then what?
I think my immediate solution proposal is to create a border. Make sure that these economic migrants are discouraged to cross. Let them get the message that Europe is not open for them to just go and settle. Maybe?
Eww,...you are voting for Trump? I here he likes walls ...I mean borders,...and I can remember the German Wall.....and the Great Wall in China (nice treasure,....but didn't really work,...easy to get over with ladders!) Europe is not "open".....sounds territorial,...but unlike religious warfare and its ideology,....territorial conflicts are EASY to understand,....
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lindsyjones: This thread only wants to discuss and focus on how this crises can be solved:
Suggestions as to how it can be fixed without being inhuman and yet without having to lose Europe as it is.
NO MORE BLAIMING WHO STARTED IT, NO MORE WHO IS WRONG OR RIGHT..Just plain, what would you recommend to do right now, considering what is going on?
Anyone?
Suggestions as to how it can be fixed without being inhuman and yet without having to lose Europe as it is.
NO MORE BLAIMING WHO STARTED IT, NO MORE WHO IS WRONG OR RIGHT..Just plain, what would you recommend to do right now, considering what is going on?
Anyone?
To screen very tight who are really Syrian refugees amongst those hundred thousand people. Give priority to non-muslims because they are most likely could integrate well in Europe and there were already some plea from non-muslim Syrians that they were tortured in Syria by you-know-who, wouldn't it be very funny to place them together (again) with those one who tortured them?
To be really honest to you, just recently a survey showed that two-third people in Germany think islam does not belong to Germany and the other way around. Islam teachings and lifestyle do not fit to Germany. People said so because they are simply sick and tired of seeing this refugee crisis, who most of them coming from countries where muslim is majority, turning bad with no win-win solution for any party.
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kaetchenvonhn: To screen very tight who are really Syrian refugees amongst those hundred thousand people. Give priority to non-muslims because they are most likely could integrate well in Europe and there were already some plea from non-muslim Syrians that they were tortured in Syria by you-know-who, wouldn't it be very funny to place them together (again) with those one who tortured them?
To be really honest to you, just recently a survey showed that two-third people in Germany think islam does not belong to Germany and the other way around. Islam teachings and lifestyle do not fit to Germany. People said so because they are simply sick and tired of seeing this refugee crisis, who most of them coming from countries where muslim is majority, turning bad with no win-win solution for any party.
To be really honest to you, just recently a survey showed that two-third people in Germany think islam does not belong to Germany and the other way around. Islam teachings and lifestyle do not fit to Germany. People said so because they are simply sick and tired of seeing this refugee crisis, who most of them coming from countries where muslim is majority, turning bad with no win-win solution for any party.
Kaet, we do have an acute problem.
Yes I do staff thousands to process their papers. Determine who is not a refugee and send them back.
If they stay and qualify, yes, get them approve first. Those islam religious must not insist on their religious practices that us not acceptable to the Christians.
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lindsyjones: Kaet, we do have an acute problem.
Yes I do staff thousands to process their papers. Determine who is not a refugee and send them back.
If they stay and qualify, yes, get them approve first. Those islam religious must not insist on their religious practices that us not acceptable to the Christians.
Yes I do staff thousands to process their papers. Determine who is not a refugee and send them back.
If they stay and qualify, yes, get them approve first. Those islam religious must not insist on their religious practices that us not acceptable to the Christians.
ROFLMAO! I am an atheist.....read the LAST sentence of your post and explain to me how that could not be described as INTOLERANCE! Should I be preparing for the next Crusades? If I said religions must not insist upon their practices I do not find acceptable,...wow,....would I ever get an earful! That was a true display of Christian intolerance - and I am VERY well read of your scriptures,....show me a passage where is says that was cool?
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lindsyjones: Kaet, we do have an acute problem.
Yes I do staff thousands to process their papers. Determine who is not a refugee and send them back.
If they stay and qualify, yes, get them approve first. Those islam religious must not insist on their religious practices that us not acceptable to the Christians.
Yes I do staff thousands to process their papers. Determine who is not a refugee and send them back.
If they stay and qualify, yes, get them approve first. Those islam religious must not insist on their religious practices that us not acceptable to the Christians.
That's actually the root of the problems of why integration never really work well on the West. But if we are discussing about this again, there will be one who will mess up again and push their non-sense ideas.
I have to agree to someone saying, "Islam speaks about democracy and pluralism when the muslims are minority, but when they are majority islam is valid exclusively." This is to correct the quote I have written on your blog and this word was said by an ex-Muslim living in Germany for more than 20 years, I think he is now an atheist.
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lindsyjones: Kaet, we do have an acute problem.
Yes I do staff thousands to process their papers. Determine who is not a refugee and send them back.
If they stay and qualify, yes, get them approve first. Those islam religious must not insist on their religious practices that us not acceptable to the Christians.
Yes I do staff thousands to process their papers. Determine who is not a refugee and send them back.
If they stay and qualify, yes, get them approve first. Those islam religious must not insist on their religious practices that us not acceptable to the Christians.
It sounds as bad as it is Moose, but Kaet just posted a thread that states that: Islam doesn't belong in Germany and the refugees, say: Germany is not for Islam, so which one is it? You are the refugees, you don't tolerate the religion that prevails in this host country, but you allow them to practice intolerance?
You have to make up your mind Moose. Frankly this is the biggest challenge they have right now and it comes down to about religion again.
Here is what I will say to you, stop qualifying the religion as a variable that can't be solved. There has to be a meeting point, don't you agree? Read Kaet's post. Respond to it, will you>?
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Suggestions as to how it can be fixed without being inhuman and yet without having to lose Europe as it is.
NO MORE BLAIMING WHO STARTED IT, NO MORE WHO IS WRONG OR RIGHT..Just plain, what would you recommend to do right now, considering what is going on?
Anyone?