An independent England (42)

Oct 27, 2015 7:46 AM CST An independent England
damshoppin
damshoppindamshoppinmansfield, Nottinghamshire, England UK30 Threads 693 Posts
Could it happen within the next 10-20 years?
Oct 27, 2015 8:19 AM CST An independent England
Redex
RedexRedexNorthumberland, England UK36 Threads 1,304 Posts
damshoppin: Could it happen within the next 10-20 years?


doh nope simple answerteddybear
Oct 27, 2015 10:55 AM CST An independent England
damshoppin
damshoppindamshoppinmansfield, Nottinghamshire, England UK30 Threads 693 Posts
Redex: nope simple answer


Okay...but you never said why.
Oct 27, 2015 10:57 AM CST An independent England
damshoppin
damshoppindamshoppinmansfield, Nottinghamshire, England UK30 Threads 693 Posts
TheRedSquirrel87: You wouldn't know what you had until it was gone. I wish people would realise what an advantage it is - by every measure - to not have borders within our island and how you should cherish the chemistry which allows this freedom. Internal borders will make business less efficient and more regulated, politics more corrupt, and you'll have us hating each other simply because you don't know how to cultivate and commit to a relationship. It's so autistic to even think of splitting up the wholesome and homogeneous union and replacing it with socially crippled diversity.


The borders are already there.i really dont see that changing.
Oct 27, 2015 2:01 PM CST An independent England
Redex
RedexRedexNorthumberland, England UK36 Threads 1,304 Posts
damshoppin: Okay...but you never said why.


Its already been tried back in history doh did not work then grin
Anyway with China in the mix now moping help we will all be blown up as an experiment for them
Oct 27, 2015 3:02 PM CST An independent England
MikeD12
MikeD12MikeD12Broadstairs, Kent, England UK16 Threads 2 Polls 2,809 Posts
I'm all for it - Ban Bagpipes and kilts for starters rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 27, 2015 4:04 PM CST An independent England
damshoppin
damshoppindamshoppinmansfield, Nottinghamshire, England UK30 Threads 693 Posts
Redex: Its already been tried back in history did not work then
Anyway with China in the mix now we will all be blown up as an experiment for them


So you don't think Scotland will go. I personally think they will. Sooner not later..Wales may follow but not yet..
Nov 7, 2015 1:43 PM CST An independent England
humpingjack11
humpingjack11humpingjack11dungannon, Tyrone Ireland8 Posts
TheRedSquirrel87: You wouldn't know what you had until it was gone. I wish people would realise what an advantage it is - by every measure - to not have borders within our island and how you should cherish the chemistry which allows this freedom. Internal borders will make business less efficient and more regulated, politics more corrupt, and you'll have us hating each other simply because you don't know how to cultivate and commit to a relationship. It's so autistic to even think of splitting up the wholesome and homogeneous union and replacing it with socially crippled diversity.
hey fella sorry to bust your bubble in the next ten years if not earlier the soon the better Scotland and Ireland will be free what England stole years ago let me tell you England will be on there own theres not a country in the world that would trust England are likes them for that matter
Nov 7, 2015 2:18 PM CST An independent England
Redex
RedexRedexNorthumberland, England UK36 Threads 1,304 Posts
humpingjack11: hey fella sorry to bust your bubble in the next ten years if not earlier the soon the better Scotland and Ireland will be free what England stole years ago let me tell you England will be on there own theres not a country in the world that would trust England are likes them for that matter

doh wow there young man there is good and bad in every place even in yours. That kind of attitude brings chaos, we have seen it happen.
There are some leaders I would not trust with barge pole but not whole country of people.peace teddybear
Nov 7, 2015 3:14 PM CST An independent England
humpingjack11
humpingjack11humpingjack11dungannon, Tyrone Ireland8 Posts
Redex: wow there young man there is good and bad in every place even in yours. That kind of attitude brings chaos, we have seen it happen.
There are some leaders I would not trust with barge pole but not whole country of people.
yes agree theres good and bad in every country but history does not lie for years England has tried to bully smaller nations they have tried and wanted to be a police man in every country I can tell you now that England are not well like in the world that's fact im not blaming the English people cause its not there doing theres a lot of nice English people living here in Ireland I cant fault them in anyway its the so called laws lords and polilations that's destroying England and they cant see that if yous have any sense at all yous would listen to jermey corbn and vote him all the man sees is peace and hes right in everyway
Nov 8, 2015 5:43 AM CST An independent England
Redex
RedexRedexNorthumberland, England UK36 Threads 1,304 Posts
humpingjack11: yes agree theres good and bad in every country but history does not lie for years England has tried to bully smaller nations they have tried and wanted to be a police man in every country I can tell you now that England are not well like in the world that's fact im not blaming the English people cause its not there doing theres a lot of nice English people living here in Ireland I cant fault them in anyway its the so called laws lords and polilations that's destroying England and they cant see that if yous have any sense at all yous would listen to jermey corbn and vote him all the man sees is peace and hes right in everyway


At this moment I dont see that man leading any country. He may have solid views some commendable even but lead a country on world wide stage ?????
No other leader to me commands my respect, maybe the welsh lady, certainly not the scottish one nor cameron.
I look for strong leader in all parties and do know we can never have perfect agreement or fit and as yet do not see one.
Maybe just maybe UKIP will get my vote.
I do not think us Brits appreciated lib dems in the coalition, but as we can now see they tempered Tories mad plans down,. They could not apply all they wanted either but got lambasted for that. I do not think as a party they could lead a country but in a coalition the could keep feet on the grand from destructive people.
Nov 8, 2015 7:54 AM CST An independent England
humpingjack11
humpingjack11humpingjack11dungannon, Tyrone Ireland8 Posts
let me tell ya if the English government would keep the nose out of other nations then may be they could run there own country mind there own business thatcher was the devil stole and kill a lot of argentines done the same in Ireland destroyed a lot of English people blair went into Iraq for what reason ????? I could go on and on about the other prime minsters the money they spent in wars that wasn't any of there business could have went to better use the taxes we pay is a complete disgrace no other country in the world are like it I see corbn a great leader he will make peace all over the world and gave in time he could make life a lot easier for the English people I can see a lot of muslim groups attacking England in years to come that they will be looking over there shoulder for the rest of there lifes and it wont be easy for the English people to go on forein holidays afeared of being killed I blame the leaders for this distruction
Nov 9, 2015 5:40 AM CST An independent England
damshoppin
damshoppindamshoppinmansfield, Nottinghamshire, England UK30 Threads 693 Posts
humpingjack11: let me tell ya if the English government would keep the nose out of other nations then may be they could run there own country mind there own business thatcher was the devil stole and kill a lot of argentines done the same in Ireland destroyed a lot of English people blair went into Iraq for what reason ????? I could go on and on about the other prime minsters the money they spent in wars that wasn't any of there business could have went to better use the taxes we pay is a complete disgrace no other country in the world are like it I see corbn a great leader he will make peace all over the world and gave in time he could make life a lot easier for the English people I can see a lot of muslim groups attacking England in years to come that they will be looking over there shoulder for the rest of there lifes and it wont be easy for the English people to go on forein holidays afeared of being killed I blame the leaders for this distruction


I agree with most of what you say, particularly about Corbyn. Unfortunately we're always attached to the coat tails of the USA.. and their big business. And to be fair the USA is more hated world wide than England, but only just..
Nov 9, 2015 9:44 AM CST An independent England
Redex
RedexRedexNorthumberland, England UK36 Threads 1,304 Posts
damshoppin: I agree with most of what you say, particularly about Corbyn. Unfortunately we're always attached to the coat tails of the USA.. and their big business. And to be fair the USA is more hated world wide than England, but only just..

Russia too now, they got involved with the fight against isil in Syria and what happens there plane is blown up, all those lives lostmoping
Going back in history all countries cultures have been guilty of bad things so we must go forward and not keep harping on past bad deeds.teddybear
Nov 9, 2015 12:01 PM CST An independent England
damshoppin
damshoppindamshoppinmansfield, Nottinghamshire, England UK30 Threads 693 Posts
Redex: Russia too now, they got involved with the fight against isil in Syria and what happens there plane is blown up, all those lives lost
Going back in history all countries cultures have been guilty of bad things so we must go forward and not keep harping on past bad deeds.


Agreed about not harping on about the past. Building a future is more important. .However I don't think the present lot will do that, there itching to start bombing.
Nov 9, 2015 1:16 PM CST An independent England
humpingjack11
humpingjack11humpingjack11dungannon, Tyrone Ireland8 Posts
Redex: Russia too now, they got involved with the fight against isil in Syria and what happens there plane is blown up, all those lives lost
Going back in history all countries cultures have been guilty of bad things so we must go forward and not keep harping on past bad deeds.
would you be a single lady love if so wot about me and you getting together lol and we could have a rumble n the jungle xx
Nov 10, 2015 4:28 AM CST An independent England
damshoppin
damshoppindamshoppinmansfield, Nottinghamshire, England UK30 Threads 693 Posts
Redex: Russia too now, they got involved with the fight against isil in Syria and what happens there plane is blown up, all those lives lost
Going back in history all countries cultures have been guilty of bad things so we must go forward and not keep harping on past bad deeds.


I'll say one thing which the English are good at and thats forgetting the past. This country has been invaded by just about everyone in Europe and lets include Ireland on the list too..We don't seem to feel it necessary to go on about it..
Nov 10, 2015 7:29 AM CST An independent England
Redex
RedexRedexNorthumberland, England UK36 Threads 1,304 Posts
humpingjack11: would you be a single lady love if so wot about me and you getting together lol and we could have a rumble n the jungle xx


rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Nov 10, 2015 7:34 AM CST An independent England
Redex
RedexRedexNorthumberland, England UK36 Threads 1,304 Posts
damshoppin: I'll say one thing which the English are good at and thats forgetting the past. This country has been invaded by just about everyone in Europe and lets include Ireland on the list too..We don't seem to feel it necessary to go on about it..


And so what do you think the future holds for our little island.
For myself I cant tell my own future let alone a whole country.
I just know we are luckier than some even though this government are doing us no good moping but oh dear the last lot did not iether.
I think we have to take care of ourselves, carve a life out of what is there as no-one else will do it for us.peace peace
Nov 10, 2015 12:51 PM CST An independent England
humpingjack11
humpingjack11humpingjack11dungannon, Tyrone Ireland8 Posts
the English people have no one to blame other than them selves because when it comes to voting they listen to all these promises and changes which never come im telling yous now vote for corbn hes a man of hes word and will make changes in every way that you wouldn't be exspecting I always see the british goverments robbing peter to pay paul not with this man I can see him taking all the britsh troops out of countrys that they shouldn't be in he will let Ireland go free Scotland and wales to then he will make peace all over the world get big countys in to boost employment cut taxes to a lower rate and so on then go from there
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