If God Exists, Why is there Suffering ( Archived) (37)

Nov 15, 2015 12:01 PM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
KremaP: Exactly, Holly books, written by people...Do I need to say more...?!


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Nov 15, 2015 12:04 PM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
Babettefr: in my own sense,, god should not fall asleep as he knows what he has created,, yet he let those people do what they want,, innocents were suffering and dying ,, explain that to deaf and blind !!!



sleeping as in god is not aware what is going on in the human race
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Nov 15, 2015 12:08 PM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
Willow3939
Willow3939Willow3939Greer, South Carolina USA8 Threads 2 Polls 799 Posts
pedro27: sleeping as in god is not aware what is going on in the human race


I see my Goddess reflected back at me everyday. I see her clearly in the beauty of nature and in the kindness of family, friends and stranger reaching out to one another. This life is hard and we were never promised perfection. We live in a broken world, but there are moments of joy as well.
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Nov 15, 2015 12:14 PM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
Babettefr
BabettefrBabettefrLa France, Pays de la Loire France13 Threads 1,955 Posts
Willow3939: Agreed. It is a flawed system, but it is our reality that we are living in. All we can do is hold the bad people accountable under the confines of our laws.



I could agree to that system,,and so why connect god to reality and to that system,, and laws ,, have flaws too,, depending on who is being judged, and who is the judge,, why you think ,, the people revolt? and air their disapproval in the unrighteous way of implementing such laws.

Laws can be advatageous to some and a disaster to some ,, like what lies between the black and the white race ,,
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Nov 15, 2015 12:15 PM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
unlaoised: I don't really have one. I just find it interesting that when things are good..."god" is given the credit for it. When things go badly....it's not "his" fault


Things go bad, things go good, that is the way of life, nothing to do with 'god.' We have free will to respond to life's events, a 'godly' person will respond with peaceful awareness, understanding and forgiveness.
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Nov 15, 2015 12:17 PM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
KremaP: Exactly, Holly books, written by people...Do I need to say more...?!



Yes you are right..
But its sad to say most of the people believe that they are Gods words...lolz
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Nov 15, 2015 12:19 PM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
bodleing2: Things go bad, things go good, that is the way of life, nothing to do with 'god.' We have free will to respond to life's events, a 'godly' person will respond with peaceful awareness, understanding and forgiveness.


That is life...ups and downs, you're so right.

I'm afraid I don't understand much of what happens but then, I'm a practical woman dunno
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Nov 15, 2015 12:20 PM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
Willow3939: I see my Goddess reflected back at me everyday. I see her clearly in the beauty of nature and in the kindness of family, friends and stranger reaching out to one another. This life is hard and we were never promised perfection. We live in a broken world, but there are moments of joy as well.


i believe in the alpha and omega, that means the begining and the end, imo there will be a end but i feel god has a last trick up his sleeve in the end of time, the good guy always wins in the end!!
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Nov 15, 2015 12:20 PM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
AnOrdinaryWoman
AnOrdinaryWomanAnOrdinaryWomanlas Vegas, Nevada USA1 Threads 21 Posts
In response to: the question came up in the Paris attack thread ; if there is a GOD why does HE allow suffering. this clip is 56 min. long may help to explain it.


because all of us are different, because He made us to be different, because Eva picked apple no matter that He said "no", because He is trying to spread idea of peace and love but people do not listen (same as Eva didnt)
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Nov 15, 2015 12:21 PM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
stringman: the question came up in the Paris attack thread ; if there is a GOD why does HE allow suffering. this clip is 56 min. long may help to explain it.



String, you of all people should know that God doesn't promote suffering or enrichment. We do it to ourselves.

When I was a child my mother was Lutheran and she made sure we went to Sunday School every Sunday and then church when I was an adult.

I "believed" all those years until about five years ago when I thought it through that I was counting on an invisible being to run my life. It was called faith. When one thing after another went wrong in my life I realized that I was the only one who was going to change things.

So you see dear String, and I do think of you dearly, I may not believe now but I was raised with strong religion in my life from my mother.

Wars are not God's fault. ISIS is not God's fault. Mankind is destroying itself. God is just sitting back and thinking....where did he go wrong in His teachings.
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Nov 15, 2015 12:21 PM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
Babettefr: does god knows how to write? ,,,

Humans before and now? what's the difference,, ? they have the same capacity to remain a good individual and a rotten one ,, manipulating weak minds to arrive to their desires ,, just that the struggle is measured on the value of times and elements that are presently existing in their respective eras ,,


its interesting to read your comment..
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Nov 15, 2015 12:28 PM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
secretagent09: String, you of all people should know that God doesn't promote suffering or enrichment. We do it to ourselves.

When I was a child my mother was Lutheran and she made sure we went to Sunday School every Sunday and then church when I was an adult.

I "believed" all those years until about five years ago when I thought it through that I was counting on an invisible being to run my life. It was called faith. When one thing after another went wrong in my life I realized that I was the only one who was going to change things.

So you see dear String, and I do think of you dearly, I may not believe now but I was raised with strong religion in my life from my mother.

I know it is not GOD's fault man has left GOD.man thinks he has all the answers. the clip is well explained I think but here you have a case where man thinks he knows .

Wars are not God's fault. ISIS is not God's fault. Mankind is destroying itself. God is just sitting back and thinking....where did he go wrong in His teachings.
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Nov 15, 2015 12:32 PM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
I know it is not GOD's fault man has left GOD.man thinks he has all the answers. the clip is well explained I think but here you have a case where man thinks he knows .
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Nov 15, 2015 12:36 PM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
Babettefr
BabettefrBabettefrLa France, Pays de la Loire France13 Threads 1,955 Posts
guysimple: its interesting to read your comment..


hello guy,, wave

I always believe that in normal conditions/sanity, every human will be held responsible for his bad acts,, and never implement any god or anybody on it.cheers have a pleasant evening.wave
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Nov 15, 2015 12:42 PM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
Babettefr: hello guy,,

I always believe that in normal conditions/sanity, every human will be held responsible for his bad acts,, and never implement any god or anybody on it. have a pleasant evening.


Yes you are right and I do believe what you said.
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Nov 15, 2015 12:47 PM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
Babettefr
BabettefrBabettefrLa France, Pays de la Loire France13 Threads 1,955 Posts
stringman: I know it is not GOD's fault man has left GOD.man thinks he has all the answers. the clip is well explained I think but here you have a case where man thinks he knows .


Man has all the answers when given the exact time to prove and study the things being in question, because what man can provide as answers,,they are based on it's tangible findings and observations. What a man can't answer are questions of things inexisting.

Why this question about god keeps on returning every now and then and up to now nobody did brought a prove that can't can't be questioned, because it is inexisting ,,therefore nobody is capable of answering.
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Nov 15, 2015 1:00 PM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
Babettefr: Man has all the answers when given the exact time to prove and study the things being in question, because what man can provide as answers,,they are based on it's tangible findings and observations. What a man can't answer are questions of things inexisting.

Why this question about god keeps on returning every now and then and up to now nobody did brought a prove that can't can't be questioned, because it is inexisting ,,therefore nobody is capable of answering.


the bible is the word of GOD. it is HIS way of guiding mankind of the way to live. he gave us free will to choose, not to be forced to choose. it is like if man was forced to love you is that true love?
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