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Hi Babs
You are talking about a situation that's happening not only on CS but in real life too. People take it in a different way and choose what to believe or not. When you have billions of humans, which are the most inharmonious and extreme creations on Earth you can not expect a good result.
You have mentioned the "Interest", the main reason for all the troubles. People suffer because other people make them suffer...
The separation is a natural thing, when you have humans from different cultures, religions, custom, way of life you sooner or later end up with what we do witnessed recently. It might sound cynical but I believe that there is natural logic in the way the world has separated itself into continents, countries, zones...by colours, religions... The nature is the best example, if you mix lions with gnus you won't expect a peaceful outcome...
It's just my opinion and might not be presented in the best way but it's JMHO and I don't push it onto anybody...
You are talking about a situation that's happening not only on CS but in real life too. People take it in a different way and choose what to believe or not. When you have billions of humans, which are the most inharmonious and extreme creations on Earth you can not expect a good result.
You have mentioned the "Interest", the main reason for all the troubles. People suffer because other people make them suffer...
The separation is a natural thing, when you have humans from different cultures, religions, custom, way of life you sooner or later end up with what we do witnessed recently. It might sound cynical but I believe that there is natural logic in the way the world has separated itself into continents, countries, zones...by colours, religions... The nature is the best example, if you mix lions with gnus you won't expect a peaceful outcome...
It's just my opinion and might not be presented in the best way but it's JMHO and I don't push it onto anybody...
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Do the countries that sell eeapons have the right to talk big words about terrorism?
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KremaP: Hi Babs
You are talking about a situation that's happening not only on CS but in real life too. People take it in a different way and choose what to believe or not. When you have billions of humans, which are the most inharmonious and extreme creations on Earth you can not expect a good result.
You have mentioned the "Interest", the main reason for all the troubles. People suffer because other people make them suffer...
The separation is a natural thing, when you have humans from different cultures, religions, custom, way of life you sooner or later end up with what we do witnessed recently. It might sound cynical but I believe that there is natural logic in the way the world has separated itself into continents, countries, zones...by colours, religions... The nature is the best example, if you mix lions with gnus you won't expect a peaceful outcome...
It's just my opinion and might not be presented in the best way but it's JMHO and I don't push it onto anybody...
You are talking about a situation that's happening not only on CS but in real life too. People take it in a different way and choose what to believe or not. When you have billions of humans, which are the most inharmonious and extreme creations on Earth you can not expect a good result.
You have mentioned the "Interest", the main reason for all the troubles. People suffer because other people make them suffer...
The separation is a natural thing, when you have humans from different cultures, religions, custom, way of life you sooner or later end up with what we do witnessed recently. It might sound cynical but I believe that there is natural logic in the way the world has separated itself into continents, countries, zones...by colours, religions... The nature is the best example, if you mix lions with gnus you won't expect a peaceful outcome...
It's just my opinion and might not be presented in the best way but it's JMHO and I don't push it onto anybody...
Hello Krem,,
It is somewhat troubling for my part in the sense that what had happened in paris were done by men mostly residing in the UE or even in France. They have normal family life until the time they became radical.
Why they become terrorists and why some didn't,, when if fact they are worshipping the same allah?
So i am still not willing to accept that because they are muslims they automatically belong to a deadly race, as we know very well there were humanitarian crimes done before,, more deadly but not necessarily done by muslims.
There are about 20,000,,, muslims in France ,, and we can just imagine if they turn to be all terrorists.
Separation is sure a natural thing,, and in what logic some nations invade other nations for their riches ? and when these people resists,, we have the tendency to judge the present but not the origin.
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Babettefr: Hello Krem,,
It is somewhat troubling for my part in the sense that what had happened in paris were done by men mostly residing in the UE or even in France. They have normal family life until the time they became radical.
Why they become terrorists and why some didn't,, when if fact they are worshipping the same allah?
So i am still not willing to accept that because they are muslims they automatically belong to a deadly race, as we know very well there were humanitarian crimes done before,, more deadly but not necessarily done by muslims.
There are about(20,000), 5-6 million,,, muslims in France ,, and we can just imagine if they turn to be all terrorists.
Separation is sure a natural thing,, and in what logic some nations invade other nations for their riches ? and when these people resists,, we have the tendency to judge the present but not the origin.
It is somewhat troubling for my part in the sense that what had happened in paris were done by men mostly residing in the UE or even in France. They have normal family life until the time they became radical.
Why they become terrorists and why some didn't,, when if fact they are worshipping the same allah?
So i am still not willing to accept that because they are muslims they automatically belong to a deadly race, as we know very well there were humanitarian crimes done before,, more deadly but not necessarily done by muslims.
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Separation is sure a natural thing,, and in what logic some nations invade other nations for their riches ? and when these people resists,, we have the tendency to judge the present but not the origin.
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Babettefr: Hello Krem,,
It is somewhat troubling for my part in the sense that what had happened in paris were done by men mostly residing in the UE or even in France. They have normal family life until the time they became radical.
Why they become terrorists and why some didn't,, when if fact they are worshipping the same allah?
So i am still not willing to accept that because they are muslims they automatically belong to a deadly race, as we know very well there were humanitarian crimes done before,, more deadly but not necessarily done by muslims.
There are about 20,000,,, muslims in France ,, and we can just imagine if they turn to be all terrorists.
Separation is sure a natural thing,, and in what logic some nations invade other nations for their riches ? and when these people resists,, we have the tendency to judge the present but not the origin.
It is somewhat troubling for my part in the sense that what had happened in paris were done by men mostly residing in the UE or even in France. They have normal family life until the time they became radical.
Why they become terrorists and why some didn't,, when if fact they are worshipping the same allah?
So i am still not willing to accept that because they are muslims they automatically belong to a deadly race, as we know very well there were humanitarian crimes done before,, more deadly but not necessarily done by muslims.
There are about 20,000,,, muslims in France ,, and we can just imagine if they turn to be all terrorists.
Separation is sure a natural thing,, and in what logic some nations invade other nations for their riches ? and when these people resists,, we have the tendency to judge the present but not the origin.
According to Michèle Tribalat (fr), a researcher at INED, an acceptance of 5 to 6 million Muslims in France in 1999 was overestimated. Her work has shown that there were 3.7 million people of "possible Muslim faith" in France in 1999 (6.3% of the total population of Metropolitan France). These 3.7 million people whose ancestry is from countries where Islam is the dominant faith may or may not be observant Muslims themselves. In 2009, she estimated that the number of people of "possible Muslim faith" in France was about 4.5 million.
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Conrad73: According to Michèle Tribalat (fr), a researcher at INED, an acceptance of 5 to 6 million Muslims in France in 1999 was overestimated. Her work has shown that there were 3.7 million people of "possible Muslim faith" in France in 1999 (6.3% of the total population of Metropolitan France). These 3.7 million people whose ancestry is from countries where Islam is the dominant faith may or may not be observant Muslims themselves. In 2009, she estimated that the number of people of "possible Muslim faith" in France was about 4.5 million.
Thanks for the link conrad,,,
My above posting shows the corrected number,,
The point is that, before this terrorism was again active, there is already an important muslim community in France, living in big as well as average cities.
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Babettefr: TERRORISM IS MADDNESS !!!! "IT TAKES ONLY FEW TO KILL A HUNDRED",,
YOU DON'T NEED TO BE A MUSLIM TO BECOME MAD AND FANATIC,, I HAVE DISCUSSED WITH SOME MUSLIMS RECENTLY AND I FOUND OUT THAT AS USUAL GENERALIZATION CREATES CONFUSION. IF I WARE A MUSLIM, I COULD BE BITTER TO READ HOW MY RELIGION IN BEING USED BY FOOLS/MADS.
I COULD HAVE POSTED FIRST HAND TESTIMONIES, MEDIA COVERAGE, THAT IS MORE OR LESS THE EXACT REFLECTION OF WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENS BUT YET I DECIDE NOT TO BECAUSE IT DIVIDES OPINIONS, CONVICTIONS, IF NOT NOURISH HOSTILITY AMONG MEMBERS THAT HAS A CERTAIN SENSITIVITY.
WHY IN THE NAME OF LIBERTY IN EXPRESSION ??? ,,, ARE WE TRYING TO MAKE USE OF THE PAINS OF THE VICTIMS TO EXPRESS OUR DISAPPROVAL OF OTHER'S ,,,,, GODS,, CULTURE,, RELIGION ,, IDEOLOGY ,, WHEN WE ARE COMPLETELY AWARE THAT IT COULD STIR NEGATIVE REACTIONS AND INSTIGATE HOSTILITY AMONG THE MEMBERS???
WHILE LEADERS OF NATIONS ARE HAVING A HARD TIME IN RECONCILING EACH AND EVERY ONE'S INTEREST TO ACHIEVE A HARMONIOUS/DIPLOMATIC APPROACH,,( HYPOCRISY ASIDE?) ,, LET'S NOT ADOPT AN EXAGERATED ATTITUDE THAT COULD LEAD TO NOTHING,, IF NOT JUST TO NOURISH THE MONOTONY.
YOU DON'T NEED TO BE A MUSLIM TO BECOME MAD AND FANATIC,, I HAVE DISCUSSED WITH SOME MUSLIMS RECENTLY AND I FOUND OUT THAT AS USUAL GENERALIZATION CREATES CONFUSION. IF I WARE A MUSLIM, I COULD BE BITTER TO READ HOW MY RELIGION IN BEING USED BY FOOLS/MADS.
I COULD HAVE POSTED FIRST HAND TESTIMONIES, MEDIA COVERAGE, THAT IS MORE OR LESS THE EXACT REFLECTION OF WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENS BUT YET I DECIDE NOT TO BECAUSE IT DIVIDES OPINIONS, CONVICTIONS, IF NOT NOURISH HOSTILITY AMONG MEMBERS THAT HAS A CERTAIN SENSITIVITY.
WHY IN THE NAME OF LIBERTY IN EXPRESSION ??? ,,, ARE WE TRYING TO MAKE USE OF THE PAINS OF THE VICTIMS TO EXPRESS OUR DISAPPROVAL OF OTHER'S ,,,,, GODS,, CULTURE,, RELIGION ,, IDEOLOGY ,, WHEN WE ARE COMPLETELY AWARE THAT IT COULD STIR NEGATIVE REACTIONS AND INSTIGATE HOSTILITY AMONG THE MEMBERS???
WHILE LEADERS OF NATIONS ARE HAVING A HARD TIME IN RECONCILING EACH AND EVERY ONE'S INTEREST TO ACHIEVE A HARMONIOUS/DIPLOMATIC APPROACH,,( HYPOCRISY ASIDE?) ,, LET'S NOT ADOPT AN EXAGERATED ATTITUDE THAT COULD LEAD TO NOTHING,, IF NOT JUST TO NOURISH THE MONOTONY.
Hallo Babette, I have different opinion with you.
"Society might criticise me for taking prejudices and speaking out against islam, the same society will be silent seeing and hearing muslims taking prejudices on Jews and criticising freedom of speech." (Anon)
The victims were randoms, but the terrorist are not. Was it all a coincidence that the terrorist are (good) muslims? Was it a coincidence that they yelled "Awuaaa barbar" on their barbaric actions. No, it was not a coincidence. islam and their blind devotion triggered those terrorists made the attacks and they did in the name of their religion. I failed to see any other religions than islam doing similar attacks constantly, not only in France, but any other parts of the world, including a place where majority of the country are muslims.
Tolerance, solidarity, democracy would only be spoken by muslims if they are minority. When muslims are majority, it would be islam that would be valid exclusively. I bet you don't want to live in a country where majority of the people believe in islam, because it would never give you the comfort feeling to stay there, esp. if you are part of the minority. That explains why many people (including part of majority) wanted to stay away from islamic countries.
Those muslims who claim they are innocent are basically normal human beings that love and want peace and they are not religious or in other words they are muslims but not practicing. The good and religious muslims are those one doing the attacks and those ones doing the jihads. I wish those peace-loving muslims can learn a lot from this incident and other incidents before; there is many red flags in teachings of islam. Muslims are encouraged to safe their life by staying away from islam. Muslims, stop being blindly devoted to a teaching that teach you to hate others in any kind of forms!
http://www.faithfreedom.org/introducing-the-term-jack-muslim/
http://www.faithfreedom.org/islam-and-the-clash-of-civilizations/
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"Tolerance, solidarity, democracy would only be spoken by muslims if they are minority. When muslims are majority, it would be islam that would be valid exclusively. I bet you don't want to live in a country where majority of the people believe in islam, because it would never give you the comfort feeling to stay there, esp. if you are part of the minority. That explains why many people (including part of majority) wanted to stay away from islamic countries."
kaetch,,,
QATAR IS FULL OF NON MUSLIM MILLIONAIRES AS WELL AS SAUDI ARABIA ,, fabulous/extremely luxurious life that's not affordable to many,, rich businessmen from outside invested !!! and i think muslims are majority ,,
just that the leaders of these nations know how to keep peace and order,, and maybe not corrupt and tyrant. ,,,?
"Tolerance, solidarity, democracy would only be spoken by muslims if they are minority. When muslims are majority, it would be islam that would be valid exclusively. I bet you don't want to live in a country where majority of the people believe in islam, because it would never give you the comfort feeling to stay there, esp. if you are part of the minority. That explains why many people (including part of majority) wanted to stay away from islamic countries."
kaetch,,,
QATAR IS FULL OF NON MUSLIM MILLIONAIRES AS WELL AS SAUDI ARABIA ,, fabulous/extremely luxurious life that's not affordable to many,, rich businessmen from outside invested !!! and i think muslims are majority ,,
just that the leaders of these nations know how to keep peace and order,, and maybe not corrupt and tyrant. ,,,?
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firstly, terrorism isn't exactly new especially regarding France. Every time I come to this website I sigh in disbelief especially with kiwis.
Let's forget about the french blowing up the rainbow warrior or testing nuclear weapons in our back yard.
Sorry but my compassion isn't your's, perhaps you need a shoulder to cry on, personally I find it pathetic
Let's forget about the french blowing up the rainbow warrior or testing nuclear weapons in our back yard.
Sorry but my compassion isn't your's, perhaps you need a shoulder to cry on, personally I find it pathetic
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Meister1Cool: firstly, terrorism isn't exactly new especially regarding France. Every time I come to this website I sigh in disbelief especially with kiwis.
Let's forget about the french blowing up the rainbow warrior or testing nuclear weapons in our back yard.
Sorry but my compassion isn't your's, perhaps you need a shoulder to cry on, personally I find it pathetic
Let's forget about the french blowing up the rainbow warrior or testing nuclear weapons in our back yard.
Sorry but my compassion isn't your's, perhaps you need a shoulder to cry on, personally I find it pathetic
Kindly go over, and understand carefully my line of thinking.
I am not pathetic, and never wanted a shoulder to cry on,,, epecially from you and your compassion. FAR FROM THAT,, be objective with your comment,,, and you will be respected and your opinions be interesting.
In all my thread and comments,,, i never practice arrogance,,,now you show up and don't hide and let me how you look like,, and i will tell you if you are a credible individual.
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TERRORISM IS MADDNESS !!!! "IT TAKES ONLY FEW TO KILL A HUNDRED",,
Hypocrisy
Hypocrisy
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Meister1Cool: TERRORISM IS MADDNESS !!!! "IT TAKES ONLY FEW TO KILL A HUNDRED",,
Hypocrisy
Hypocrisy
You are far from reality,,, well anyway,, this a forum,, you will just be considered according to your manner of analysis and expression.
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Babettefr: You are far from reality,,, well anyway,, this a forum,, you will just be considered according to your manner of analysis and expression.
Expression? not arrogant?
The poor French people, at least you haven't blown nukes lately in the Pacific.
Sorry, I was just being arrogant xxxxxx
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Meister1Cool: firstly, terrorism isn't exactly new especially regarding France. Every time I come to this website I sigh in disbelief especially with kiwis.
Let's forget about the french blowing up the rainbow warrior or testing nuclear weapons in our back yard.
Sorry but my compassion isn't your's, perhaps you need a shoulder to cry on, personally I find it pathetic
Let's forget about the french blowing up the rainbow warrior or testing nuclear weapons in our back yard.
Sorry but my compassion isn't your's, perhaps you need a shoulder to cry on, personally I find it pathetic
People seem to have forgotten about Algeria, but I guess that's in the past, so it doesn't matter.
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When the rooster crows, it screeches
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Sometimes countries bying those weapons, suppress their
ethnic minorities.Your country is a prime example
suppressing over 18 million Kurds in S-E Turkey.
Thats how,most of the time,so called "terrorism",is born.-
For you,maybe,the fighting Kurds,are terrorists,
but for the fighting Kurds, they feel, ""Freedom fighters"".
ethnic minorities.Your country is a prime example
suppressing over 18 million Kurds in S-E Turkey.
Thats how,most of the time,so called "terrorism",is born.-
For you,maybe,the fighting Kurds,are terrorists,
but for the fighting Kurds, they feel, ""Freedom fighters"".
alanya1972: Do the countries that sell eeapons have the right to talk big words about terrorism?
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Babettefr: @ ,,,
"Tolerance, solidarity, democracy would only be spoken by muslims if they are minority. When muslims are majority, it would be islam that would be valid exclusively. I bet you don't want to live in a country where majority of the people believe in islam, because it would never give you the comfort feeling to stay there, esp. if you are part of the minority. That explains why many people (including part of majority) wanted to stay away from islamic countries."
kaetch,,,
QATAR IS FULL OF NON MUSLIM MILLIONAIRES AS WELL AS SAUDI ARABIA ,, fabulous/extremely luxurious life that's not affordable to many,, rich businessmen from outside invested !!! and i think muslims are majority ,,
just that the leaders of these nations know how to keep peace and order,, and maybe not corrupt and tyrant. ,,,?
"Tolerance, solidarity, democracy would only be spoken by muslims if they are minority. When muslims are majority, it would be islam that would be valid exclusively. I bet you don't want to live in a country where majority of the people believe in islam, because it would never give you the comfort feeling to stay there, esp. if you are part of the minority. That explains why many people (including part of majority) wanted to stay away from islamic countries."
kaetch,,,
QATAR IS FULL OF NON MUSLIM MILLIONAIRES AS WELL AS SAUDI ARABIA ,, fabulous/extremely luxurious life that's not affordable to many,, rich businessmen from outside invested !!! and i think muslims are majority ,,
just that the leaders of these nations know how to keep peace and order,, and maybe not corrupt and tyrant. ,,,?
Qatar is not corrupt? I still cannot forget the news about Qatar bribed FIFA to be the host of World Cup 2022. There were cases and complaints where the workers that built the stadions were not treated well as normal human beings.
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Babettefr: You are far from reality,,, well anyway,, this a forum,, you will just be considered according to your manner of analysis and expression.
cool, good night. I have a different opinion than you, but I am real xxxxx
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kaetchenvonhn: Qatar is not corrupt? I still cannot forget the news about Qatar bribed FIFA to be the host of World Cup 2022. There were cases and complaints where the workers that built the stadions were not treated well as normal human beings.
kaetch,,
You might be aware how money circulates/control in the world of sports,, i have heard too the case similar as to how Germany bribed the sports community, well anyway,, corruption, nobody's clean on that.
As for Qatar,, i'm focusing my point on the interior control and business claimate in this country,, (as it is the point of depart,, the muslim community),,,if they corrupt the world,, then it's the fault of those accept their bribes.
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YOU DON'T NEED TO BE A MUSLIM TO BECOME MAD AND FANATIC,, I HAVE DISCUSSED WITH SOME MUSLIMS RECENTLY AND I FOUND OUT THAT AS USUAL GENERALIZATION CREATES CONFUSION. IF I WARE A MUSLIM, I COULD BE BITTER TO READ HOW MY RELIGION IN BEING USED BY FOOLS/MADS.
I COULD HAVE POSTED FIRST HAND TESTIMONIES, MEDIA COVERAGE, THAT IS MORE OR LESS THE EXACT REFLECTION OF WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENS BUT YET I DECIDE NOT TO BECAUSE IT DIVIDES OPINIONS, CONVICTIONS, IF NOT NOURISH HOSTILITY AMONG MEMBERS THAT HAS A CERTAIN SENSITIVITY.
WHY IN THE NAME OF LIBERTY IN EXPRESSION ??? ,,, ARE WE TRYING TO MAKE USE OF THE PAINS OF THE VICTIMS TO EXPRESS OUR DISAPPROVAL OF OTHER'S ,,,,, GODS,, CULTURE,, RELIGION ,, IDEOLOGY ,, WHEN WE ARE COMPLETELY AWARE THAT IT COULD STIR NEGATIVE REACTIONS AND INSTIGATE HOSTILITY AMONG THE MEMBERS???
WHILE LEADERS OF NATIONS ARE HAVING A HARD TIME IN RECONCILING EACH AND EVERY ONE'S INTEREST TO ACHIEVE A HARMONIOUS/DIPLOMATIC APPROACH,,( HYPOCRISY ASIDE?) ,, LET'S NOT ADOPT AN EXAGERATED ATTITUDE THAT COULD LEAD TO NOTHING,, IF NOT JUST TO NOURISH THE MONOTONY.
CS ,,, IS A UNIVERSAL SITE,,WITH MEMBERS HAVING DIFFERENT CULTURE,,CONVICTION,, RELIGION,, OR COLOR ,, WHY EXHIBIT HOSTILITY TOWARDS ANYBODY WHEN WE ARE COMPLETELY AWARE OF IT'S BEING USELESS ? ,,,,IF ONE IS AFTER FOR AUTHENTIQUE INFORMATIONS,, THEY EXACTLY KNOW WHERE TO GO ,,, SURELY NOT IN THE FORUMS OF DATING SITES THAT ONE COULD ACQUIRE ANY INFORMATIONS,, BASING AFTER ONE'S MANNER OF EXPRESSION.
CS COULD NOT SURELY SURVIVE WITH MEMBERS THAT COULD BE COUNTED BY THE FINGERS,, EVERY MEMBER IS CONTRIBUTORY TO IT'S SUCCESS,,
!!! TRUE OR NOT ??? ,,,