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Babettefr: The tabulation in this link showed that the biggest part goes to Middle East Countries/Africans,, While HAITI,, where people baked clay to feed their empty stomachs,,, they almost don't have anything,, surprising!!!
Yes I am also wondering about the comparatively smaller amounts spent in portions of our own hemisphere...but we have supplied disaster relief to Haiti after an earthquake there.
The US encourages democracy in Haiti. The authoritarian government institutions there have been an issue for the US and we continue to ask for free and open (with transparency) elections in Haiti. (Though my own opinion is that international monitoring is best for elections there). Planned spending in 2016 for Haiti is nearly a quarter of a billion dollars. But who gets it and how it is distributed I am not informed.
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Babettefr: I didin't dig on that yet,, but i doubt,, it is always misleading,,
So many facts to consider,, like the size ,,, the capacity,, of each country,, proportional/prorated datas are almost interesting to exploit,, good thread ,,,
So many facts to consider,, like the size ,,, the capacity,, of each country,, proportional/prorated datas are almost interesting to exploit,, good thread ,,,
well let's see. I agree that data is interesting and no matter how careful and transparent the creators of data tables are there will be errors.
Who gets aid and how much they get is probably dependent on our relations with these countries as well as their size and the needs.
It looks like France has cut their foreign aid budget this year to balance their budget. not a bad idea really
up through 2010 France was second only behind the UK in TT foreign aid disbursement (the guardian)
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felixis99: well let's see. I agree that data is interesting and no matter how careful and transparent the creators of data tables are there will be errors.
Who gets aid and how much they get is probably dependent on our relations with these countries as well as their size and the needs.
It looks like France has cut their foreign aid budget this year to balance their budget. not a bad idea really
up through 2010 France was second only behind the UK in TT foreign aid disbursement (the guardian)
Who gets aid and how much they get is probably dependent on our relations with these countries as well as their size and the needs.
It looks like France has cut their foreign aid budget this year to balance their budget. not a bad idea really
up through 2010 France was second only behind the UK in TT foreign aid disbursement (the guardian)
In EU I mean
up through 2010 France was second only behind the UK in TT foreign aid disbursement
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For Babette and Lifesadream who had comments on foreign aid recipients. Here is a link to the receipients. Haiti is one of the larger recipients in the Americas, but the US is not the only donor
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felixis99: well let's see. I agree that data is interesting and no matter how careful and transparent the creators of data tables are there will be errors.
Who gets aid and how much they get is probably dependent on our relations with these countries as well as their size and the needs.
It looks like France has cut their foreign aid budget this year to balance their budget. not a bad idea really
up through 2010 France was second only behind the UK in TT foreign aid disbursement (the guardian)
Who gets aid and how much they get is probably dependent on our relations with these countries as well as their size and the needs.
It looks like France has cut their foreign aid budget this year to balance their budget. not a bad idea really
up through 2010 France was second only behind the UK in TT foreign aid disbursement (the guardian)
Not surprising ,,, France alloted a lot to health assistance and social aids to it's own citizens, we have so far the best social security system,, but i don't have link to back that up,,
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lifeisadream: Interesting Thread topic Felixis
Would you happen to know how those figures are made of? Beyond the administration cost.
Afghanistan Is The Big Winner In U.S. Foreign Aid
The bulk of the $12.9 billion in aid to Afghanistan—$9.95 billion—went towards spending on military and security assistance to arm and train Afghan military and police forces.
Data from 2012
Would you happen to know how those figures are made of? Beyond the administration cost.
Afghanistan Is The Big Winner In U.S. Foreign Aid
The bulk of the $12.9 billion in aid to Afghanistan—$9.95 billion—went towards spending on military and security assistance to arm and train Afghan military and police forces.
Data from 2012
rebel2: Hi gorgeous
You are quite right, no bashing of any country!
I know the US gives vast amounts as do many European countries. The figure would be mind blowing if we added it all up.
What concerns me, with all this aid that is given, over so many years now, why are there so many people living and dying in appalling conditions without the basic needs of life?
The only conclusion I can come up with is corruption. Where is the money being spent when it gets there?
I would be far happier if when the money was sent, someone from the country that donates it is there with it and takes control of where it is spent.
You are quite right, no bashing of any country!
I know the US gives vast amounts as do many European countries. The figure would be mind blowing if we added it all up.
What concerns me, with all this aid that is given, over so many years now, why are there so many people living and dying in appalling conditions without the basic needs of life?
The only conclusion I can come up with is corruption. Where is the money being spent when it gets there?
I would be far happier if when the money was sent, someone from the country that donates it is there with it and takes control of where it is spent.
Bashing is one thing and Facts is another but sometimes Facts can be bashing.
felixis99: I have not look yet at 2012, but I do not doubt you are correct.
well if you look at the 2015 map, virtually all of the economic development funding "actually spent" by the USA went to Afghanistan. I think it should be more evenly distributed and a larger % of total should be econ. dev. That is a challenge in conflicted areas, however.
and I think we should disengage with Afghanistan. But those latter comments are just my opinion.
I am not foreign policy expert but judging from prior "disengagements" from military presence
we have always assisted to train the country's military to defend themselves.
That is expensive. This thread is not one that is intended to discuss our military presence in the Middle East. But I am interested in seeing how our spending in Afghanistan and Pakistan has changed! Let me take a look at the 2012 map and get back to you
well if you look at the 2015 map, virtually all of the economic development funding "actually spent" by the USA went to Afghanistan. I think it should be more evenly distributed and a larger % of total should be econ. dev. That is a challenge in conflicted areas, however.
and I think we should disengage with Afghanistan. But those latter comments are just my opinion.
I am not foreign policy expert but judging from prior "disengagements" from military presence
we have always assisted to train the country's military to defend themselves.
That is expensive. This thread is not one that is intended to discuss our military presence in the Middle East. But I am interested in seeing how our spending in Afghanistan and Pakistan has changed! Let me take a look at the 2012 map and get back to you
Place whatever number you want to, even the lowest as for USA aid to other countries, the fact is that most of USA aid IS for arms and wars and reconstructing countries that have been destroyed by USA itself in first place.
Do not bother banning me I am voluntarily leaving your thread.
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Hi Felix,
I haven't opened any of the links, but do you know the percentage breakdown of government to government aid V. government to NGO aid?
I think that is an important indicator of where the money is actually going, and what it is being spent on.
I haven't opened any of the links, but do you know the percentage breakdown of government to government aid V. government to NGO aid?
I think that is an important indicator of where the money is actually going, and what it is being spent on.
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lifeisadream: Bashing is one thing and Facts is another but sometimes Facts can be bashing.
Place whatever number you want to, even the lowest as for USA aid to other countries, the fact is that most of USA aid IS for arms and wars and reconstructing countries that have been destroyed by USA itself in first place.
Do not bother banning me I am voluntarily leaving your thread.
Place whatever number you want to, even the lowest as for USA aid to other countries, the fact is that most of USA aid IS for arms and wars and reconstructing countries that have been destroyed by USA itself in first place.
Do not bother banning me I am voluntarily leaving your thread.
Wow...there is no reason to ban you. I am not taking a criticism of US military policy as a personal attack. However, the military budget is different from the foreign aid budget that is a fact like it or not....up to you... facts do tend to annoy those people with an agenda ...lol
I don't feel my opinion is as important as the facts ...but in response to you in honor of the friendship we had at one time....
I happen to agree that our military budget is too large. Much of it does go to infrastructure ( & administrative waste). We usually do help countries rebuild after conflicts. Our economic aid planned for 2016 is virtually all to rebuild in Afghanistan, I really do not know how much of an infrastructure they had before, but they will have one now.
When I said I think we should disengage in Afghanistan I meant military presence but I think for economic reconstruction we should stay.
A lot depends on which side of the fence you're on. This is off topic, but... Someone invites us to these expensive parties called civil wars, so if that's the side you're on we look pretty good. Otherwise we do not in the eyes of the other side whoever they are; the terrorist groups, for example, like ISIS and AL Qeada. But yes I agree. I think we should be less involved in these things too
...last I checked that was not MY decision. What I do not appreciate is those on here whose agenda is to use any pretext to criticize the US and flatly refuse to see any of the good we have done while also refusing to hold responsible the warring factors in their own countries for not getting themselves under control.
But no matter how you slice it, 33 billion dollars is still al of od money to go to other countries when so many here are in need. Mexico is the largest US foreign aid recipient in the Americas. My question is what the heck are they doing with it that they can't keep their people at home?
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mollybaby: Hi Felix,
I haven't opened any of the links, but do you know the percentage breakdown of government to government aid V. government to NGO aid?
I think that is an important indicator of where the money is actually going, and what it is being spent on.
I haven't opened any of the links, but do you know the percentage breakdown of government to government aid V. government to NGO aid?
I think that is an important indicator of where the money is actually going, and what it is being spent on.
Hey Molly, Conrad was asking about that too. I see some articles on NGOs linked to from these sites I am viewing but haven't seen the figures, so no I don't know that answer but it is an interesting question
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OK, let's cut the mustard, our culture whether it be American/Canadian/Sweeden or New Zealand etc etc....we've got a major problem.
1. Get rid of ISIS, once and for all
2. Regardless of ISIS, GET RID OF THEM.
3. Number 3, don't talk about ISIS
4. Number 4, don't talk about ISIS
5. Number 5, don't talk about ISIS because we are getting angry
6. We are going to rip there heads off and convert them to nails on the cross
7. We've had enough, too much ain't a good thing
8. we are ready to hurt muslims in there own back yard
9. BRING IT ON, in other words our SAS will destroy ISIS
1. Get rid of ISIS, once and for all
2. Regardless of ISIS, GET RID OF THEM.
3. Number 3, don't talk about ISIS
4. Number 4, don't talk about ISIS
5. Number 5, don't talk about ISIS because we are getting angry
6. We are going to rip there heads off and convert them to nails on the cross
7. We've had enough, too much ain't a good thing
8. we are ready to hurt muslims in there own back yard
9. BRING IT ON, in other words our SAS will destroy ISIS
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Meister1Cool: OK, let's cut the mustard, our culture whether it be American/Canadian/Sweeden or New Zealand etc etc....we've got a major problem.
1. Get rid of ISIS, once and for all
2. Regardless of ISIS, GET RID OF THEM.
3. Number 3, don't talk about ISIS
4. Number 4, don't talk about ISIS
5. Number 5, don't talk about ISIS because we are getting angry
6. We are going to rip there heads off and convert them to nails on the cross
7. We've had enough, too much ain't a good thing
8. we are ready to hurt muslims in there own back yard
9. BRING IT ON, in other words our SAS will destroy ISIS
1. Get rid of ISIS, once and for all
2. Regardless of ISIS, GET RID OF THEM.
3. Number 3, don't talk about ISIS
4. Number 4, don't talk about ISIS
5. Number 5, don't talk about ISIS because we are getting angry
6. We are going to rip there heads off and convert them to nails on the cross
7. We've had enough, too much ain't a good thing
8. we are ready to hurt muslims in there own back yard
9. BRING IT ON, in other words our SAS will destroy ISIS
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with ergodans little turkey shoot today, spetznatz will be retaliating in short order, there wont be any more (foreign aid) "money and arms deliveries from the suicide bomber in chief" fallin out of C-130's or off trucks to the allied allah snackbar camel brigades hidin behind rocks somewhere near the border...
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South Africa was better off under Apartheid, Ukraine prefers Russia over the West, Morsi's Egypt cannot stand etc. There would be uncomfortable truths for us to face if we pulled the plug on foreign aid.
Our global ideology and its schemes depend on throwing money at the world. Foreign aid really is more of a grubby deal, but then so is having to pay for the toilet at Piccadilly train station.
Our global ideology and its schemes depend on throwing money at the world. Foreign aid really is more of a grubby deal, but then so is having to pay for the toilet at Piccadilly train station.
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TheRedSquirrel87: South Africa was better off under Apartheid, Ukraine prefers Russia over the West, Morsi's Egypt cannot stand etc. There would be uncomfortable truths for us to face if we pulled the plug on foreign aid.
Our global ideology and its schemes depend on throwing money at the world. Foreign aid really is more of a grubby deal, but then so is having to pay for the toilet at Piccadilly train station.
Our global ideology and its schemes depend on throwing money at the world. Foreign aid really is more of a grubby deal, but then so is having to pay for the toilet at Piccadilly train station.
Not Morsi, the military in power now. That wouldn't last without the West.
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Meister1Cool: OK, let's cut the mustard, our culture whether it be American/Canadian/Sweeden or New Zealand etc etc....we've got a major problem.
1. Get rid of ISIS, once and for all
2. Regardless of ISIS, GET RID OF THEM.
3. Number 3, don't talk about ISIS
4. Number 4, don't talk about ISIS
5. Number 5, don't talk about ISIS because we are getting angry
6. We are going to rip there heads off and convert them to nails on the cross
7. We've had enough, too much ain't a good thing
8. we are ready to hurt muslims in there own back yard
9. BRING IT ON, in other words our SAS will destroy ISIS
1. Get rid of ISIS, once and for all
2. Regardless of ISIS, GET RID OF THEM.
3. Number 3, don't talk about ISIS
4. Number 4, don't talk about ISIS
5. Number 5, don't talk about ISIS because we are getting angry
6. We are going to rip there heads off and convert them to nails on the cross
7. We've had enough, too much ain't a good thing
8. we are ready to hurt muslims in there own back yard
9. BRING IT ON, in other words our SAS will destroy ISIS
Who?
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Hey Felixis....
Times have changed as has the world....but as old as this video is...it still holds...sure the USA has made MANY mistakes in the global theatre, but they have also bent over backwards for the world as well. Since I have,...apparently, as usual in these forums, "stirred the pot", I shall consider myself banned!
Times have changed as has the world....but as old as this video is...it still holds...sure the USA has made MANY mistakes in the global theatre, but they have also bent over backwards for the world as well. Since I have,...apparently, as usual in these forums, "stirred the pot", I shall consider myself banned!
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Da_Moose: Hey Felixis....
Times have changed as has the world....but as old as this video is...it still holds...sure the USA has made MANY mistakes in the global theatre, but they have also bent over backwards for the world as well. Since I have,...apparently, as usual in these forums, "stirred the pot", I shall consider myself banned!
Times have changed as has the world....but as old as this video is...it still holds...sure the USA has made MANY mistakes in the global theatre, but they have also bent over backwards for the world as well. Since I have,...apparently, as usual in these forums, "stirred the pot", I shall consider myself banned!
I do have to disagree with Gordon about one thing though...
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TheRedSquirrel87: Not Morsi, the military in power now. That wouldn't last without the West.
morsi was a muslim bro puppet of the bozo administration. IN 2013 the Egyptian people took to civil war and removed the bro's, morsi is in jail, the people of egypt want No more of the muslim divider in chief obozo's muslim brotherhood nonsense.------ This thread is Archived ------
felixis99: Wow...there is no reason to ban you. I am not taking a criticism of US military policy as a personal attack. However, the military budget is different from the foreign aid budget that is a fact like it or not....up to you... facts do tend to annoy those people with an agenda ...lol
I don't feel my opinion is as important as the facts ...but in response to you in honor of the friendship we had at one time....
I happen to agree that our military budget is too large. Much of it does go to infrastructure ( & administrative waste). We usually do help countries rebuild after conflicts. Our economic aid planned for 2016 is virtually all to rebuild in Afghanistan, I really do not know how much of an infrastructure they had before, but they will have one now.
When I said I think we should disengage in Afghanistan I meant military presence but I think for economic reconstruction we should stay.
A lot depends on which side of the fence you're on. This is off topic, but... Someone invites us to these expensive parties called civil wars, so if that's the side you're on we look pretty good. Otherwise we do not in the eyes of the other side whoever they are; the terrorist groups, for example, like ISIS and AL Qeada. But yes I agree. I think we should be less involved in these things too ...last I checked that was not MY decision.
What I do not appreciate is those on here whose agenda is to use any pretext to criticize the US and flatly refuse to see any of the good we have done while also refusing to hold responsible the warring factors in their own countries for not getting themselves under control.
But no matter how you slice it, 33 billion dollars is still al of od money to go to other countries when so many here are in need.
Mexico is the largest US foreign aid recipient in the Americas.
My question is what the heck are they doing with it that they can't keep their people at home?
I don't feel my opinion is as important as the facts ...but in response to you in honor of the friendship we had at one time....
I happen to agree that our military budget is too large. Much of it does go to infrastructure ( & administrative waste). We usually do help countries rebuild after conflicts. Our economic aid planned for 2016 is virtually all to rebuild in Afghanistan, I really do not know how much of an infrastructure they had before, but they will have one now.
When I said I think we should disengage in Afghanistan I meant military presence but I think for economic reconstruction we should stay.
A lot depends on which side of the fence you're on. This is off topic, but... Someone invites us to these expensive parties called civil wars, so if that's the side you're on we look pretty good. Otherwise we do not in the eyes of the other side whoever they are; the terrorist groups, for example, like ISIS and AL Qeada. But yes I agree. I think we should be less involved in these things too ...last I checked that was not MY decision.
What I do not appreciate is those on here whose agenda is to use any pretext to criticize the US and flatly refuse to see any of the good we have done while also refusing to hold responsible the warring factors in their own countries for not getting themselves under control.
But no matter how you slice it, 33 billion dollars is still al of od money to go to other countries when so many here are in need.
Mexico is the largest US foreign aid recipient in the Americas.
My question is what the heck are they doing with it that they can't keep their people at home?
I am giving you just one example of your money aid:
Have you ever heard of the Mérida plan?
" The Merida Initiative is an unprecedented partnership between the United States and Mexico to fight organized crime and associated violence while furthering respect for human rights and the rule of law. Based on principles of common and shared responsibility, mutual trust, and respect for sovereign independence, the two countries’ efforts have built confidence that is transforming the bilateral relationship.
-The U.S. Congress has appropriated $2.3 billion since the Mérida Initiative began in Fiscal Year 2008. - """
I will translate that for you:
Mérida Initiative means that Mexico has to fight criminals (mostly drug related criminals – so they do not get to USA-) while USA provides the guns "aid money"
and México provides 
? which btw drug criminals are not only Mexican.
Why USA is not fighting drug criminal in USA’s land?
Because of the political cost?
Because of the casualties?
Or is it because
Who benefits from it most?
And who pays the human cost?
Stop foreign aid.
Sop being so compassionate with other countries and place all those billions in:
- Your social security fund.
- Make education affordable for every one
Ah!
But educated and informed people can not easily be manipulated by the media, wiki and you tube.
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Just too bad the Data is abit old already,but the reason for that might be the US Department Of Statistics lagging behind!
yeah , it's hard to get those math guys to speed things up....forever arguing over calculations