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Jan 20, 2016 5:23 AM CST Germany suffers the result of Angela Merkel's decision
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Jana_: gmo, many pharmaceutical industry products


You have the right not to import or buy them, don't you?
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Jan 20, 2016 5:25 AM CST Germany suffers the result of Angela Merkel's decision
TheRedSquirrel87
TheRedSquirrel87TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1 Threads 1,107 Posts
TheRedSquirrel87: In the same sense that surviving with all your internal organs diseased is better than dying of liver failure.


There is a third option: basking in rude health.

And all you need for this is a charismatic strongman from the far-right to restore order to the chaos.
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Jan 20, 2016 5:52 AM CST Germany suffers the result of Angela Merkel's decision
Jana_
Jana_Jana_Bourgas, Burgas Bulgaria1 Threads 17 Posts
WhatUwish4: You have the right not to import or buy them, don't you?


So far I have other options. Not sure if this will be easy or even possible if this TTIP comes into force.
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Jan 20, 2016 5:55 AM CST Germany suffers the result of Angela Merkel's decision
kaetchenvonhn
kaetchenvonhnkaetchenvonhnNeckarsulm, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany452 Posts
Jana_: So far I have other options. Not sure if this will be easy or even possible if this TTIP comes into force.


Who can guarantee it would come into force? You?
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Jan 20, 2016 7:18 AM CST Germany suffers the result of Angela Merkel's decision
Anglaishomme: Funny how the person posting the thread is in the USA, isn't it? Maybe you should come here and see what it is like in Europe before making interfering comments. Don't listen to what your idiot politicians rant about.


First I used to live there. Second I was just there last three months ago. Third, you don't have to live in a country to know what is happening. You must have a reason why you designate a place as an excuse for ignorance? Aren't we global? Isn't the action of one country a matter of world interest? Having said that, good morning and I will not be prejudiced on the privilege to post anything as I am allowed to.

Lastly aren't you from France and this site is owned by an American?

Lastly, I don't just depend on politicians. My mind is influenced by the events of this world.wave
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Jan 20, 2016 7:22 AM CST Germany suffers the result of Angela Merkel's decision
kaetchenvonhn: She was in your country few months ago. Perhaps you should have previous comments before coming up with your own comment.

You are right about idiot politicians, they are quite many here in Germany


Thanks Kaet, I just woke up and going to a political meeting with my fellow retired friends who are just as concerned with the coming elections in my country and some social programs.bouquet wave
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Jan 20, 2016 7:24 AM CST Germany suffers the result of Angela Merkel's decision
TheRedSquirrel87
TheRedSquirrel87TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1 Threads 1,107 Posts
TheRedSquirrel87: Maybe I'm too skeptical. Work ethic has improved and financial literacy rates have increased since 2008, but these have not reached critical mass. They've not achieved catalytic significance whereby you actually change the philosophy of the system you're living in.

White people today will not be responsibly for the explosion of new industry, opportunity, science and wealth that the greatest generation were. No, that honour and fortune falls to the yellow races who will inherit the earth.


And a lack of intellectual breadth. That, too, is a reason for not having any vision and living in an endless quagmire. In place of intellectual breadth we have verbal acuteness and this is one reason why our economy revolves around the media and supermarket and not the science lab and factory.

The engineers and builders amongst us have been roundly trounced by the journalists and PR reps who will wordplay their way to Mexico whether they're on the left or the right.
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Jan 20, 2016 7:28 AM CST Germany suffers the result of Angela Merkel's decision
lindsyjones: Thanks Kaet, I just woke up and going to a political meeting with my fellow retired friends who are just as concerned with the coming elections in my country and some social programs.


I will get back with you guys.

Jana on the imports of anything unethical or not so healthy products, I think because of international trade, all our commerce are within guidelines to buy or not buy those products.

I myself is an organic grower and only consume products that are either naturally grown and or opt for those that I exactly know where it was produced.

I used to be an organic farmer myself and raised my children with only organic foods. I ended that 4 years ago when I got divorced and lost my land. But I can still buy them organic grown foods and freeze them for winter.wave
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Jan 20, 2016 7:32 AM CST Germany suffers the result of Angela Merkel's decision
lindsyjones: First I used to live there. Second I was just there last three months ago. Third, you don't have to live in a country to know what is happening. You must have a reason why you designate a place as an excuse for ignorance? Aren't we global? Isn't the action of one country a matter of world interest? Having said that, good morning and I will not be prejudiced on the privilege to post anything as I am allowed to.

Lastly aren't you from France and this site is owned by an American?

Lastly, I don't just depend on politicians. My mind is influenced by the events of this world.


And having said that, is there anything that is not consistent to what I posted relative to my position? You should perhaps think of what you write before you post?

This is an international site and anyone who wants to post about the world regardless of where they live is not prohibited.

I studied in England long time ago and my opinions are not limited to my own area of residence.

Otherwise, when the muslim killed all the Christians in Africa which I blogged about then, that would have been questioned just because I am a US citizen and live in my coutnry?

You are off line here Sir, and I hope you learn that our ideas are not bound by borders.frustrated
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Jan 20, 2016 7:33 AM CST Germany suffers the result of Angela Merkel's decision
TheRedSquirrel87: And a lack of intellectual breadth. That, too, is a reason for not having any vision and living in an endless quagmire. In place of intellectual breadth we have verbal acuteness and this is one reason why our economy revolves around the media and supermarket and not the science lab and factory.

The engineers and builders amongst us have been roundly trounced by the journalists and PR reps who will wordplay their way to Mexico whether they're on the left or the right.


Obs I don'[t have time to read all your valuable comments and opinion and I will read them later and get back with you.

Thanks for being here.wave
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Jan 20, 2016 7:42 AM CST Germany suffers the result of Angela Merkel's decision
TheRedSquirrel87
TheRedSquirrel87TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1 Threads 1,107 Posts
TheRedSquirrel87: And a lack of intellectual breadth. That, too, is a reason for not having any vision and living in an endless quagmire. In place of intellectual breadth we have verbal acuteness and this is one reason why our economy revolves around the media and supermarket and not the science lab and factory.

The engineers and builders amongst us have been roundly trounced by the journalists and PR reps who will wordplay their way to Mexico whether they're on the left or the right.


For example the shale boom saved the West and particularly the US during the great recession. That one ray of light from the world of builders and engineers was enough to rescue the rest of the economy's nonsense on stilts.

Imagine what we could achieve if we started forcing kids into studying useful subjects and protecting infant industries. Not only the shale boom, but the genetic engineering boom could be ours. This is the stuff we need if we want our kids to have a better a life than we did(or at least not a worse one).
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Jan 20, 2016 8:01 AM CST Germany suffers the result of Angela Merkel's decision
TheRedSquirrel87
TheRedSquirrel87TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1 Threads 1,107 Posts
TheRedSquirrel87: For example the shale boom saved the West and particularly the US during the great recession. That one ray of light from the world of builders and engineers was enough to rescue the rest of the economy's nonsense on stilts.

Imagine what we could achieve if we started forcing kids into studying useful subjects and protecting infant industries. Not only the shale boom, but the genetic engineering boom could be ours. This is the stuff we need if we want our kids to have a better a life than we did(or at least not a worse one).


Don't thank Obama for surviving the great recession. Don't believe as tho you live in a command economy where government is entirely responsible for economic performance - which is the irony of today's individualism in how it largely discounts the efforts of individuals and industries and places all emphasis on the state. You're thinking like a commie when you believe that the government is the be all and end all.

Anyway, don't thank Obama for surviving the great recession. Thank the people of Texas and the gas industry.
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Jan 20, 2016 10:38 AM CST Germany suffers the result of Angela Merkel's decision
Capricorn143: What rules? Schengen was suspended by Germany first! Merkel invited all ME wthout consulting anyone! Sweden had done that even earlier.

Schengen was not well thought out anyway, you cannot give the responsbility to the countries in the South and have them bear all the grunt of the immigration or protecting the outside borders of EU without defining excatly who will do what, how, when to actually protect the common borders. Schengen was considered only in terms of economy not defence/security, whch was a collosal mistake.


Well my dear it seems like there was not a good consensus among all the countries to have approve your border system.

I agree it facilitated a faster passing through and fort to each country and would have worked good if the situation right now wouldn't have been happening.

Now it has to require some changes that reflect all the benefits and damages that is encountered and decide from there.sad flower
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Jan 20, 2016 10:39 AM CST Germany suffers the result of Angela Merkel's decision
sevenseas: The whole EU projekt was a hugh misstake.Hopefully England will resign....and a lot of other countrys will follow.


Seven it can happen and once that is initiated then the whole thing will crumble and or needs major changes.

A lesson learned.sad flower
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Jan 20, 2016 10:41 AM CST Germany suffers the result of Angela Merkel's decision
Anglaishomme: Funny how the person posting the thread is in the USA, isn't it? Maybe you should come here and see what it is like in Europe before making interfering comments. Don't listen to what your idiot politicians rant about.


Technically, I might add, yes we do have an idiot one running the White House of which will end soon. And I am not listening to what he says, as they are mostly lies.

In example, he didn't even acknowledge the sailors that were in a jam while he delivered his last speech of the union and many other things that you can google.
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Jan 20, 2016 10:43 AM CST Germany suffers the result of Angela Merkel's decision
Jana_: gmo, pharmaceutical products if we talk only about products, as there are also many practices coming with this TTIP and which we would not like seeing in Europe.


Jana the good news is that no one forces us to patronize any product although awareness on the disadvantage and or harm would be nice.
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Jan 20, 2016 10:45 AM CST Germany suffers the result of Angela Merkel's decision
Jana_: Now with that mistake already made, and with them already here, I think that Merkel is right for our own sake. We would be better if we could disperse them over the entire continent. We can better control them and their influence and damage will be smaller on economy and society. What are we facing otherwise - internal conflicts, change of governments, disorder and chaos.


Jana first of all, if all the migrants would be vetted out, then there is no need to concern about dispersing and or distributing them. It has to be established the numbers of the real refugees and there was an article 5 months ago saying that for every 100 people only about 3 are legitimate refugees.

Then the next issues will be resolved.
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Jan 21, 2016 10:55 AM CST Germany suffers the result of Angela Merkel's decision
TheRedSquirrel87: Don't thank Obama for surviving the great recession. Don't believe as tho you live in a command economy where government is entirely responsible for economic performance - which is the irony of today's individualism in how it largely discounts the efforts of individuals and industries and places all emphasis on the state. You're thinking like a commie when you believe that the government is the be all and end all.

Anyway, don't thank Obama for surviving the great recession. Thank the people of Texas and the gas industry.


No I don't thank him at all.
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Jan 21, 2016 10:56 AM CST Germany suffers the result of Angela Merkel's decision
lindsyjones: No I don't thank him at all.


Anyways, going back to the situation in Europe, hopefully the whole union will make a consensus that will fix this problem created by one politician.
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Jan 23, 2016 3:42 AM CST Germany suffers the result of Angela Merkel's decision
TheRedSquirrel87
TheRedSquirrel87TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1 Threads 1,107 Posts
TheRedSquirrel87: The point of that post is to say that culture and human beings are upstream and more important than politics. Mankind first, government second.


Nonemoreso than in the West. I know in the far east who gets in at the top dominates the culture and morality of that society which imo is why two branches of Koreans(the same race)can produce chalk n cheese results, and more than this, can sustain them for such a long time.

North Korea still hangs on where the Soviet Union(which was a lot better than North Korea)fell apart when it became apparent that the system was that much worse than the capitalist West.

The far east isn't an army, but it is more like the army. The structure, the organisation, the leader and the unblinking obedience of the citizenry means that they win or lose largely based on the ruler. And even when the leadership is clearly losing, and even when the citizens hate the leadership, they'll follow the leader to whatever end. The orientals are instinctively ant colony, they don't even need brainwashing.

However, in the West we generally receive the democracy/government we deserve - i.e. Merkel's attitude towards the refugees reflects the attitude the regular German(especially when she originally made the invitation).
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