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Jan 18, 2016 11:06 PM CST What is Poverty?
What exactly is the definition of poverty? Is the definition the same in all countries, or does it vary from country to country? Is it based on financial wealth, or degree of comfort? Who determines whether or not a person is living in poverty?
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Jan 18, 2016 11:17 PM CST What is Poverty?
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
toranoga: What exactly is the definition of poverty? Is the definition the same in all countries, or does it vary from country to country? Is it based on financial wealth, or degree of comfort? Who determines whether or not a person is living in poverty?


I would suspect that anything from the level subsistence living or less would be deemed as poverty pretty much anywhere in the world. Where one has no clear sight of anything better than just survival, with the most basic of necessities, and little or no options for anything more.

An abysmal life for those living it, but it is a harsh reality for all too many on the planet.
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Jan 18, 2016 11:22 PM CST What is Poverty?
pat8lanips
pat8lanipspat8lanipsbabinda, Queensland Australia67 Threads 14 Polls 6,372 Posts
Poverty is when you have to go to the beach and beg the seagulls for cold chips.
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Jan 19, 2016 2:50 PM CST What is Poverty?
Len05
Len05Len05Antwerp, Antwerpen Belgium33 Threads 11 Polls 972 Posts
i believe poverty just means scarce resource

if i see how much some alcoholics, drug users, or gamblers waste on their addiction i can't consider them poor.

But a state of poverty does incline if you can't overcome hardships.
any financial setback. broken car, medical bill, theft, ...

and it depends on who you compare too.
You can be the richest in the area with 1 dollar more.
If i check my country all citizens here are in the top 10 percent richest in the world.
Our poorest are less poor than the usa poorest, as we have more entitlements.
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Jan 19, 2016 2:57 PM CST What is Poverty?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Len05: i believe poverty just means scarce resource

if i see how much some alcoholics, drug users, or gamblers waste on their addiction i can't consider them poor.

But a state of poverty does incline if you can't overcome hardships.
any financial setback. broken car, medical bill, theft, ...

and it depends on who you compare too.
You can be the richest in the area with 1 dollar more.
If i check my country all citizens here are in the top 10 percent richest in the world.
Our poorest are less poor than the usa poorest, as we have more entitlements.


When I was a kid we had one raher of bacon between two streets for breakfast.
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Jan 19, 2016 3:00 PM CST What is Poverty?
2Cute69
2Cute692Cute69dublin, Wexford Ireland3 Threads 213 Posts
If you cant afford car insurance, phone credit, new shoes, tax, or food, you're poor
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Jan 19, 2016 3:09 PM CST What is Poverty?
2Cute69: If you cant afford car insurance, phone credit, new shoes, tax, or food, you're poor
forget all about that....eat felix cat food..in cartons (12 in a pck)...£4.00...lasts over a week....professor grin cats meow
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Jan 19, 2016 3:48 PM CST What is Poverty?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
That explains a lot,
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Jan 19, 2016 4:14 PM CST What is Poverty?
yubba
yubbayubbaCaspe, Aragon Spain11 Threads 1,962 Posts
tomcatwarne: When I was a kid we had one raher of bacon between two streets for breakfast.



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In my house the mice used to eat out. There were days l could eat a horse between two bread vans........
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Jan 19, 2016 4:34 PM CST What is Poverty?
2Cute69: If you cant afford car insurance, phone credit, new shoes, tax, or food, you're poor



That's the modern version of poverty.

When I was a child, over 70 years ago, my grandparents, my sister, my parents and I all lived together. My father didn't make much money working on the railroad. We were poor but we didn't live in poverty. We had a roof over our head, food on the table and one car for my father to go to work. Vegetables in our garden that my mother canned and kept in the cold cellar. It was cheaper to buy a hind quarter of beef for the freezer.

No such a thing as technology. My sister and I wore second hand clothes, I had holes in my shoes and we didn't have a phone in the house.

When you can't feed your children or keep them safe from harm and weather, that is poverty IMO.sad
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Jan 19, 2016 4:42 PM CST What is Poverty?
Ocee102
Ocee102Ocee102unkown, California USA10 Threads 1,399 Posts
It's having beer, but no salt and vinegar chips.
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Jan 19, 2016 4:46 PM CST What is Poverty?
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
2Cute69: If you cant afford car insurance, phone credit, new shoes, tax, or food, you're poor


First World problems. You don't have a car or a phone if you're poverty stricken. doh
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Jan 19, 2016 4:48 PM CST What is Poverty?
toranoga: What exactly is the definition of poverty? Is the definition the same in all countries, or does it vary from country to country? Is it based on financial wealth, or degree of comfort? Who determines whether or not a person is living in poverty?
There are a couple of ways to define this, although the U.S. government has a grid of annual amounts for singles/families categorizing "poverty". It varies from state to state, city to city, as well. For example, in my region of Oregon, $2300.00 per month gross/1870.00 net, is more than adequate for a single person. This is based largely on housing, which averages about 605.00 per month for a fair enough one bedroom house or apartment. This is roughly 33% of the net, which has long been the recommendation. However, in Portland, a one bedroom apartment is now about $1600.00 per month, a one-bedroom house is close or at $2000.00, so $2300.00 a month would be severely inadequate. It is not an exact science. Also, poverty can be a perception and a lifestyle. For instance, one can avoid financial problems simply by being careful and not so eager to buy everything in site, have expensive cell phones and cable services, go out all the time, buy clothes at Barneys or Eddie Bauer or Saks, etc... Much of our own success or poverty comes from how we conduct the finances we do have.
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Jan 19, 2016 5:13 PM CST What is Poverty?
poverty.....for me is.....chasing the cat around the garden trying to get the mouse it caught.....sometimes i win sometimes i lose but hey...who,s complaining.....professor
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Jan 19, 2016 6:08 PM CST What is Poverty?
secretagent09: That's the modern version of poverty.

When I was a child, over 70 years ago, my grandparents, my sister, my parents and I all lived together. My father didn't make much money working on the railroad. We were poor but we didn't live in poverty. We had a roof over our head, food on the table and one car for my father to go to work. Vegetables in our garden that my mother canned and kept in the cold cellar. It was cheaper to buy a hind quarter of beef for the freezer.

No such a thing as technology. My sister and I wore second hand clothes, I had holes in my shoes and we didn't have a phone in the house.

When you can't feed your children or keep them safe from harm and weather, that is poverty IMO.

It's funny what people equate to poverty. In my childhood I have to say we were living in poverty. Amazing as I grew up in the heart of New York City, Manhattan to be exact. You learn to survive. Things like old playing cards placed in your shoe to cover the hole in the sole. or jumping the turnstyles to get onto a subway train before the door closes. Or walking a few miles downtown to Bloomingdales and opening taxicab doors for the swells for tips. I've eaten sandwiches out of garbage cans. We were on welfare and at school there were 2 lines in the cafeteria. One was for kids like me who got free lunch. I guess that made it easier for the cashier but it didn't spare the poor kids the stigma. We weren't allowed to have a TV because that was considered a luxury so we had to hide it in the closet when the investigator from the welfare dept came around. They weren't obligated to announce their visit but there was a network on our block and the moment Mr. Immagute set foot on our block the word went out and everybody on welfare knew he was there. ha ha funny, they thought they were so clever.
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Jan 19, 2016 6:20 PM CST What is Poverty?
Lillie49
Lillie49Lillie49Nowhere, Alberta Canada35 Threads 804 Posts
toranoga: What exactly is the definition of poverty? Is the definition the same in all countries, or does it vary from country to country? Is it based on financial wealth, or degree of comfort? Who determines whether or not a person is living in poverty?


wave Poverty for me growing up was...7 little kids living in a tent eating ketchup sandwiches 3 times a day becuz the old man was alcoholic and couldn't keep a place uh oh At least it was on the beach.

Wasn't always like that tho..sometimes we were lucky enuf to have a roof over our heads uh oh
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Jan 19, 2016 6:26 PM CST What is Poverty?
I've had ketchup spaghetti a few times.
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Jan 19, 2016 6:31 PM CST What is Poverty?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
The Poor shall always exist.

For the wealth to become a miracle.
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Jan 19, 2016 6:32 PM CST What is Poverty?
Lillie49
Lillie49Lillie49Nowhere, Alberta Canada35 Threads 804 Posts
ooby_dooby: I've had ketchup spaghetti a few times.



ketchup sandwiches, ketchup soup, ketchup tea...ketchup..
Dunno why that one condiment must of been cheap laugh roll eyes laugh
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Jan 19, 2016 6:42 PM CST What is Poverty?
pedalguy59
pedalguy59pedalguy59Burlington, Ontario Canada28 Threads 1 Polls 6,976 Posts
Lillie49: Poverty for me growing up was...7 little kids living in a tent eating ketchup sandwiches 3 times a day becuz the old man was alcoholic and couldn't keep a place At least it was on the beach.

Wasn't always like that tho..sometimes we were lucky enuf to have a roof over our heads


Ah Lilliecomfort
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