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Feb 18, 2016 1:26 PM CST Hate Groups Identify With Trump...
SistaCallie
SistaCallieSistaCalliePokemon, Texas USA188 Threads 1 Polls 1,246 Posts
GOP's Rhetoric Is Legitimizing Hateful, Extremist Ideas
For the first time in several years, the number of organizations identified as "hate groups" is on the rise -- and the GOP is fanning the flames.


Hate groups and extremism have increased across the U.S. for the first time in years, according to a new report, and the current crop of presidential candidates is only fueling the fire.

The Southern Poverty Law Center released its “Intelligence Report” on Wednesday, an annual analysis of hate groups and extremism across the country. The SPLC’s analysis showed a 14 percent increase in the number of groups the SPLC deems to be extremist or that promote hate. This is the first time the group has found there to be a year-to-year increase in hate groups since 2011.

“The hate groups are growing in large part for reasons unrelated to the presidential candidates—demographic shifts, economic pressures on working class whites, anger over immigration and gay rights and the new activism of Black Lives Matter and related groups, among other things,” Mark Potok, senior fellow at the SPLC, told Vocativ. However, Potok said, several presidential candidates have latched on to the outrage and have begun to legitimize what have largely been radical, underground ideologies.

“This has the effect of helping to make the propaganda and conspiracy theories of the radical right propagate in the mainstream,” Potok continued. “These politicians also help to legitimize demonizing messages, like the idea that Muslims are all subversives, that are extremist in origin, not to mention false.”

In all, the SPLC identified 892 groups that it deems to be hate groups. That’s up from 784 in 2014. “Patriot” groups, another type of extremist group that often consists of anti-government, armed militiamen that tend to hang their hats on conspiracy theories about the federal government, also saw a 14 percent increase from 874 in 2014 to 998 today. Members of patriot groups from across the country seized a rural wildlife refuge in Oregon last month resulting in a 41-day standoff with federal authorities. Many of these groups have aligned themselves with Trump, as have hate groups.

It’s worth nothing that the SPLC has been criticized for its use of the “hate group” designation in the past as critics believe they apply the term far too liberally. Much of the criticism came from Christian organizations that were labeled hate groups over their opposition to same-sex marriage.

“While the number of extremist groups grew in 2015 after several years of declines, the real story was the deadly violence committed by extremists in city after city,” said Potok. “Whether it was Charleston, San Bernardino or Colorado Springs, 2015 was clearly a year of deadly action for extremists.”

In addition to GOP candidates’ rhetoric about Muslims, the Paris terrorist attacks in November by a group of Islamic radicals, the SPLC said, added fuel to the anti-Islamic fire—two new groups the SPLC consider anti-Muslim have found themselves on the list of hate groups. One of those groups, the Center for Security Policy, has been cited by Trump on the campaign trail.

In December, Trump issued a press release citing a poll conducted by the CSP claiming that “25 percent” of Muslims in the U.S. believe violence against Americans is justifiable “as part of the global jihad.” Of the hate group, Trump said they are “very highly respected people, who I know, actually.”

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By James King on Feb 17, 2016 at 7:30 PM
REUTERS
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Feb 18, 2016 1:27 PM CST Hate Groups Identify With Trump...
SistaCallie
SistaCallieSistaCalliePokemon, Texas USA188 Threads 1 Polls 1,246 Posts
This is why its so very important, that when listening to Trump and/or any of the candidates we not only LISTEN carefully to what they are saying, but we HEAR with intent what they are saying, to see if what is being spoken is a lie or truth, love or hate talk, and see if you are allowing your own inner anger at the establishment to determine your vote.

Many voted because of color when they voted for Obama, then when he didn't follow through with all his "change promises" now everybody is angry at him... that's because you voted because of his color, and not according to what he was speaking which had you listened carefully you would have known what he was speaking was nothing but hot air! scold professor
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Feb 18, 2016 1:30 PM CST Hate Groups Identify With Trump...
SistaCallie
SistaCallieSistaCalliePokemon, Texas USA188 Threads 1 Polls 1,246 Posts
Why is my post keep being posted in the wrong place? I will try one more time... SORRY!peace
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Feb 18, 2016 1:33 PM CST Hate Groups Identify With Trump...
purr4mance
purr4mancepurr4manceCleveland, Ohio USA6,265 Posts
SistaCallie: This is why its so very important, that when listening to Trump and/or any of the candidates we not only LISTEN carefully to what they are saying, but we HEAR with intent what they are saying, to see if what is being spoken is a lie or truth, love or hate talk, and see if you are allowing your own inner anger at the establishment to determine your vote.

Many voted because of color when they voted for Obama, then when he didn't follow through with all his "change promises" now everybody is angry at him... that's because you voted because of his color, and not according to what he was speaking which had you listened carefully you would have known what he was speaking was nothing but hot air!



he speaks in very effective enthymemes.
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Feb 18, 2016 3:53 PM CST Hate Groups Identify With Trump...
SistaCallie
SistaCallieSistaCalliePokemon, Texas USA188 Threads 1 Polls 1,246 Posts
purr4mance: he speaks in very effective enthymemes.


Yes, very effective anemas ...huuuh, oooopppps! sooorrry you said "enthymemes" rolling on the floor laughing... so true.doh conversing
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Feb 18, 2016 4:10 PM CST Hate Groups Identify With Trump...
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada838 Threads 1 Polls 9,159 Posts
Pope Francis, flying back to Rome from Mexico, took time to rip Republican Donald Trump as a non-Christian for his views on immigration and border control.

As CNN reported, the pontiff did not directly tell Catholics who to vote for in the much-contested Republican primary. But he did make clear his distaste for Trump and his views that America should clamp down on immigration to allow for intelligence and security officials the time to properly develop better border control. Trump’s also vowed on past occasions to build a wall between Mexico and America, and make Mexican authorities pay for it.


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Feb 18, 2016 4:24 PM CST Hate Groups Identify With Trump...
stringman: Pope Francis, flying back to Rome from Mexico, took time to rip Republican Donald Trump as a non-Christian for his views on immigration and border control.

As CNN reported, the pontiff did not directly tell Catholics who to vote for in the much-contested Republican primary. But he did make clear his distaste for Trump and his views that America should clamp down on immigration to allow for intelligence and security officials the time to properly develop better border control. Trump’s also vowed on past occasions to build a wall between Mexico and America, and make Mexican authorities pay for it.Read more at


I'm no trump fan, but the pope is a hypocrite if he judges this about Trump and looks the other way for other wall builders like Mexico and what's going on at its Southern border.
The pope, imo, should Thomas Acquinas writings too.
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Feb 18, 2016 4:37 PM CST Hate Groups Identify With Trump...
bohemianjack
bohemianjackbohemianjackEast Central, Minnesota USA6 Threads 2 Polls 4,209 Posts
stringman: Pope Francis, flying back to Rome from Mexico, took time to rip Republican Donald Trump as a non-Christian for his views on immigration and border control.

As CNN reported, the pontiff did not directly tell Catholics who to vote for in the much-contested Republican primary. But he did make clear his distaste for Trump and his views that America should clamp down on immigration to allow for intelligence and security officials the time to properly develop better border control. Trump’s also vowed on past occasions to build a wall between Mexico and America, and make Mexican authorities pay for it.Read more at




Trump responded swiftly at a campaign event in South Carolina, saying: “For a religious leader to question a person’s faith is disgraceful.”
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Feb 18, 2016 4:41 PM CST Hate Groups Identify With Trump...
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada838 Threads 1 Polls 9,159 Posts
bohemianjack: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/18/donald-trump-pope-francis-christian-wall-mexico-border

Trump responded swiftly at a campaign event in South Carolina, saying: “For a religious leader to question a person’s faith is disgraceful.”


seems like every one wants to bring the Donald down.laugh
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Feb 18, 2016 4:42 PM CST Hate Groups Identify With Trump...
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico184 Threads 24 Polls 22,297 Posts
stringman: Pope Francis, flying back to Rome from Mexico, took time to rip Republican Donald Trump as a non-Christian for his views on immigration and border control.

As CNN reported, the pontiff did not directly tell Catholics who to vote for in the much-contested Republican primary. But he did make clear his distaste for Trump and his views that America should clamp down on immigration to allow for intelligence and security officials the time to properly develop better border control. Trump’s also vowed on past occasions to build a wall between Mexico and America, and make Mexican authorities pay for it.Read more at


The Pope even prayed for a Mexican soccer team or two. giggle
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Feb 18, 2016 7:09 PM CST Hate Groups Identify With Trump...
The pope was in Mexico because he smells more U.S. Dollars going to Mexico by way of automobile and hvac manufacturers. The pope is always about money.

I think as highly of the pope as I do Hillary Clinton.
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Feb 18, 2016 7:09 PM CST Hate Groups Identify With Trump...
The pope was in Mexico because he smells more U.S. Dollars going to Mexico by way of automobile and hvac manufacturers. The pope is always about money.

I think as highly of the pope as I do Hillary Clinton.
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Feb 18, 2016 7:28 PM CST Hate Groups Identify With Trump...
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico184 Threads 24 Polls 22,297 Posts
galrads: The pope was in Mexico because he smells more U.S. Dollars going to Mexico by way of automobile and hvac manufacturers. The pope is always about money.

US dollars?
You need to move faster because other currencies are flirting with Mexico.
A couple of weeks ago I went to a friends’ gathering and among them there was a guy who is a constructor (just an acquaintance of mine) for gas stations (state level) and he was talking about some investors that he had met with, guess from where: Arab countries and Malaysian investors.
Arab investors want quality oil products, Malasyan investors want cheap products and there is market for both classes.

galrads:
I think as highly of the pope as I do of Hillary Clinton.


If Hillary or the Democrats wins, what would you do?

giggle
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Feb 18, 2016 7:44 PM CST Hate Groups Identify With Trump...
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico184 Threads 24 Polls 22,297 Posts
lifeisadream: ..
If Hillary or the Democrats wins, what would you do?


And if the Republicans win what would you do -differently-?

giggle
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Feb 18, 2016 7:50 PM CST Hate Groups Identify With Trump...
lifeisadream: And if the Republicans win what would you do -differently-?


I might have to move to Mexico where my U.S. Dollar goes farther. wave
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Feb 18, 2016 7:54 PM CST Hate Groups Identify With Trump...
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico184 Threads 24 Polls 22,297 Posts
galrads: I might have to move to Mexico where my U.S. Dollar goes farther.

I would not recommend it!

Which party do you want to win?
I will support your choice then.

laugh


wave
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Feb 19, 2016 6:53 PM CST Hate Groups Identify With Trump...
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico184 Threads 24 Polls 22,297 Posts
galrads: The pope was in Mexico because ...


The visit of the Pope was a smog curtain.


grin
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Feb 19, 2016 7:04 PM CST Hate Groups Identify With Trump...
loulou77
loulou77loulou77Vancouver, British Columbia Canada1 Threads 2,223 Posts
SistaCallie: This is why its so very important, that when listening to Trump and/or any of the candidates we not only LISTEN carefully to what they are saying, but we HEAR with intent what they are saying, to see if what is being spoken is a lie or truth, love or hate talk, and see if you are allowing your own inner anger at the establishment to determine your vote.

Many voted because of color when they voted for Obama, then when he didn't follow through with all his "change promises" now everybody is angry at him... that's because you voted because of his color, and not according to what he was speaking which had you listened carefully you would have known what he was speaking was nothing but hot air!


I certainly hope that the US citizens will see Trumps' intent...I don't think he cares about Americans...he just wants to win...that is why he carries on like an immature child making such horrendous remarks on women, Mexicans, and Muslims...to name a few...we all lose if he becomes elected...thumbs down
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Feb 19, 2016 7:32 PM CST Hate Groups Identify With Trump...
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico184 Threads 24 Polls 22,297 Posts
loulou77: I certainly hope that the US citizens will see Trumps' intent...I don't think he cares about Americans...he just wants to win...that is why he carries on like an immature child making such horrendous remarks on women, Mexicans, and Muslims...to name a few...we all lose if he becomes elected...


Do we all lose?

I do not think so LouLou.

It is about time to either address illegal immigration in USA properly or not and I believe Trump will not but there is a need to make a statement even if in the wrong direction so Americans will see the real effect of illegal immigration and I do hope illegal Mexican immigrants will reconsider staying here, we do need them here.




bouquet
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Feb 19, 2016 7:58 PM CST Hate Groups Identify With Trump...
loulou77
loulou77loulou77Vancouver, British Columbia Canada1 Threads 2,223 Posts
lifeisadream: Do we all lose?

I do not think so LouLou.

It is about time to either address illegal immigration in USA properly or not and I believe Trump will not but there is a need to make a statement even if in the wrong direction so Americans will see the real effect of illegal immigration and I do hope illegal Mexican immigrants will reconsider staying here, we do need them here.


Life

I beg to differ...using derogatory comments about illegals is wrong...why should people fear or hate?...it goes to show you the kind of man Trump is...he is stooping to a new low...

My concern is about people in general...becoming violent towards Mexicans or Muslims...because of all the derogatory speeches made by specifically Trump...

I would be a refreshing change if people could debate issues without using others as scapegoats...




bouquet
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