Can we read more from the way a person writes? ( Archived) (17)

Apr 3, 2016 8:50 AM CST Can we read more from the way a person writes?
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
An interesting subject I feel, this from The University of Alabama.

Recognizing the writer’s techniques:

1. Style
The way the author picks words and puts them together. As Ella Fitzgerald once said, "it ain’t what you do; it’s the way how you do it." Author’s choices indicate their intended audience.

2. Tone
The attitude of the author toward the subject, usually expressed as feelings, such as: respect, hate, anger, impatience, humor, irony, contempt, delight.

3. Mood
State of mind or feeling at a particular time. The way you feel after reading the author’s work.

4. Purpose
The reason the author wrote, such as: to provide information, to persuade the reader, to cause an action, to promote an opinion, to amuse, to entertain, or to induce the reader to buy a product.

5. Point of view
The way an author’s interests and beliefs influence the work. Authors’ beliefs may cause their work to be slanted, which means they do not provide an objective treatment of their topic.

Techniques of writing that twist the truth use deceptive methods to press a special point of view. Authors who twist the truth knowingly leave out or alter facts and use spurious (untrustworthy, faulty) logic. An example of this type of writing is propaganda. The point of view is biased, prejudiced, or slanted. The author usually has made up his or her mind and can’t be confused with facts. You can spot propaganda by watching out for the following:

1. Words used for emotional effect: commie, pinko, liberal, John Bircher, conservative, activist, Yankee.

2. Words with special connotations.

3. Try to recognize the following methods of propaganda:

name dropping

appeal to authority

peer pressure

positive wording, general statements

stacking the cards (only the facts that agree with the author)

downplaying an opposing view through negative names and words.


Anyone think this is true?
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Apr 3, 2016 9:55 AM CST Can we read more from the way a person writes?
Innocentia00122
Innocentia00122Innocentia00122Osnabrück, Lower Saxony Germany2 Threads 723 Posts
Hello, rizlared,
yes, I think this is very true.

No matter if the addressee is a single person or a nation, you have through the way you write a lot of possibilities to transport who you are and what you want and what you want the other one to think about you.

But I think if it works depends so much on if you can write in your mother language or read your mother language or how good you speak or write the certain other language.
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Apr 3, 2016 10:10 AM CST Can we read more from the way a person writes?
TheRedSquirrel87
TheRedSquirrel87TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1 Threads 1,107 Posts
Easier to deceive through writing. I know that in the old Nixon-Kennedy debates people preferred Nixon in writing and on the radio but they'd side with Kennedy when it was televised.
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Apr 3, 2016 10:20 AM CST Can we read more from the way a person writes?
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
Some people are eloquent verbally, others are better in the written word.

Writing gives the author more time to frame their thoughts in a more organised and coherent manner.
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Apr 3, 2016 10:31 AM CST Can we read more from the way a person writes?
pat8lanips
pat8lanipspat8lanipsbabinda, Queensland Australia67 Threads 14 Polls 6,372 Posts
I think all thats true if you're talking about something written here or a letter to the editor etc., but not something more formal. You would never present a paper for peer review in the sciences with words like commie or pinko etc., everything would be written in the third party and have the correct use and style of referencing (Footnote for chemistry and maths, Harvard for everything else).

To surmise, its university writing criteria regarding those that never went to uni. The notion of impartiality is a complete myth, it only has to appear impartial and follow the opinions of whichever lecturer is marking the essay.
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Apr 3, 2016 11:26 AM CST Can we read more from the way a person writes?
Babettefr
BabettefrBabettefrLa France, Pays de la Loire France13 Threads 1,955 Posts
I can say yes..and each reader has it's author.. even a controversial title if it's being expressed with authenticity it could become a best seller....a good book results from the combined personality and skill of the writer..so yes...books and write ups is an extention of the person who wrote it.. it creates a reputation..widely or nobody reads..is the verdict...
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Apr 3, 2016 11:32 AM CST Can we read more from the way a person writes?
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
Babettefr: I can say yes..and each reader has it's author.. even a controversial title if it's being expressed with authenticity it could become a best seller....a good book results from the combined personality and skill of the writer..so yes...books and write ups is an extention of the person who wrote it.. it creates a reputation..widely or nobody reads..is the verdict...


But what about media pressure? 50 shades is a best seller, but the actual writing is awful, for some unreadable even.
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Apr 3, 2016 11:32 AM CST Can we read more from the way a person writes?
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
Babettefr: I can say yes..and each reader has it's author.. even a controversial title if it's being expressed with authenticity it could become a best seller....a good book results from the combined personality and skill of the writer..so yes...books and write ups is an extention of the person who wrote it.. it creates a reputation..widely or nobody reads..is the verdict...


But what about media pressure? 50 shades is a best seller, but the actual writing is awful, for some unreadable even.
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Apr 3, 2016 12:13 PM CST Can we read more from the way a person writes?
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
Capricorn143: He obviously knew how to handle the public the audience, so in that sense he was a showman.
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Apr 3, 2016 12:17 PM CST Can we read more from the way a person writes?
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
rizlared: But what about media pressure? 50 shades is a best seller, but the actual writing is awful, for some unreadable even.


An amazing cure for insomnia though.
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Apr 3, 2016 12:21 PM CST Can we read more from the way a person writes?
yubba
yubbayubbaCaspe, Aragon Spain11 Threads 1,962 Posts
There is something more about writing that changes with age, older people are educated differently and write differently, younger people are not 'connected' in an old fashioned way, there has been a remarkable change in the last 40 years that has put people far apart and it causes problems in communication in many ways in that the reader cannot 'read' the writer although can read what is written.

Years ago some may say that the 'standard' has dropped, it may well have to an older person but to the person using that new style it is completely normal.
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Apr 3, 2016 12:26 PM CST Can we read more from the way a person writes?
Babettefr
BabettefrBabettefrLa France, Pays de la Loire France13 Threads 1,955 Posts
rizlared: But what about media pressure? 50 shades is a best seller, but the actual writing is awful, for some unreadable even.


There was a strong marketing force behind the 50 shades..yes media pressure..but the book is not really a good read..many who bought a copy were deceived... if the book was deceiving the writer for sure is for a reason...
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Apr 3, 2016 12:27 PM CST Can we read more from the way a person writes?
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
rizlared: Text organisation? No idea, but in teaching it is interesting how some sentences make sense to the author, but bewilder those reading it lol
A few years ago, I attended a seminar to understand and spot those with dyslexia, he also said a lot can be determined by the way a person writes, sadly we didn't have time to look deeper.


I am in teaching, too, and it is amazing how text organization differs depending on your mother tongue, e.g. how you start, develop ideas, what is considered a digression or irrelevance. It is also something that the writers in a foreign language find the hardest to notice.

There was a reasearch I am trying to find in vin now - it graphycally showed the flow of ideas in different languages, will post when I find it, very interesting.
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Apr 3, 2016 12:36 PM CST Can we read more from the way a person writes?
Babettefr
BabettefrBabettefrLa France, Pays de la Loire France13 Threads 1,955 Posts
Babettefr: There was a strong marketing force behind the 50 shades..yes media pressure..but the book is not really a good read..many who bought a copy were deceived... if the book was deceiving the writer for sure is for a reason...


In many cases..films made out of best sellers are deceiving to watch..movie personalities could'nt express better than the writer does..
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Apr 3, 2016 1:22 PM CST Can we read more from the way a person writes?
pat8lanips
pat8lanipspat8lanipsbabinda, Queensland Australia67 Threads 14 Polls 6,372 Posts
...But then I go and blow it by saying something stupid like I love you.
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Apr 3, 2016 1:25 PM CST Can we read more from the way a person writes?
brooks was here
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Apr 3, 2016 1:33 PM CST Can we read more from the way a person writes?
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
rizlared: But what about media pressure? 50 shades is a best seller, but the actual writing is awful, for some unreadable even.



The author of that book should be tied up and whipped. cowboy
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