tomcatwarneOPOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
With 40 days until the EU referendum, new Sky Data polling suggests 29% of the population is still open to persuasion.
Today both sides will try to woo that group with renewed vigour. The Remain camp claims it's planning the biggest ever day of cross-party campaigning, while Brexiters are staging what they call a UK 'blitz'.
Britain Stronger In Europe says it is fielding over six thousand campaigners at around one thousand events across the country involving all four major political parties.
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David Cameron will unveil a new poster, Jeremy Corbyn is expected to address a rally in London, the Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron will be campaigning in Cumbria and the Greens' Caroline Lucas will be in Brighton.
The Prime Minister will focus on the Treasury analysis of the cost of leaving, which is estimated by officials to be £4,300 per household each year.
David Cameron said: "This is a day unlike any other. Politicians of every stripe taking to the streets with the same message.
"We will see the effects of this referendum in our lives; the jobs we do, the opportunities our children have, the public services we rely on, the prices we pay, and the bills that land on our doormats."
The official campaign group Vote Leave is again relying on former Mayor Boris Johnston to carry the banner for change.
tomcatwarneOPOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
The group has also challenged Remain's analysis, claiming the cost of staying in the EU would be crippling for many British families, with £50m pounds being sent to Brussels every day.
And the Grassroots Out organisation is sending out MPs from the Conservatives, Labour and UKIP to make its case, focusing on what it claims would be the economic benefits of leaving the EU.
The MPs will also cite official statistics which suggest the government has significantly underestimated the number of EU migrants over the past five years.
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And Sky Data suggests immigration is still the greater concern for the undecided at 28%, while 15% believe the economy is the most important issue.
Young people make up the largest group of undecided voters, and more women than men are yet to make up their minds.
Since Sham-moron and Os Born a Prat have been in charge I am already 480 per year worse off thanks to us being ruled by Brussels Euro-prats and his renegotiation of our legal rights to self determination over fishing rights make our own laws, take our UK Sovereignty back and exercise our own immigration control that benefits OUR own people have all been an expensive joke at tax payers expense.
MikeD12: Since Sham-moron and Os Born a Prat have been in charge I am already 480 per year worse off thanks to us being ruled by Brussels Euro-prats and his renegotiation of our legal rights to self determination over fishing rights make our own laws, take our UK Sovereignty back and exercise our own immigration control that benefits OUR own people have all been an expensive joke at tax payers expense.
Why would you need to give up your sovereignty in the first place?
tomcatwarneOPOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
galrads: Why would you need to give up your sovereignty in the first place?
Sovereignty is understood in jurisprudence as the full right and power of a governing body to govern itself without any interference from outside sources or bodies. In political theory, sovereignty is a substantive term designating supreme authority over some polity..
We are under the jack boot of Europe at the moment
tomcatwarneOPOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
From now on, our energies will be directed to furthering the cause of those who believe Britain is Better Off Out.
The famous and symbolic Crusader who adorns our masthead will become the figurehead of the struggle to repatriate British sovereignty from a political project that has comprehensively failed people right across Europe.
After far too many years as the victims of Brussels larceny, bullying, over-regulation and all-round interference, the time has come for the British people to win back their country and restore legitimacy and accountability to their political process.
Following the debacle of the Lisbon Treaty – disgracefully imposed upon the public without the referendum they were promised by the three main political parties – many had expected matters European to take a lower profile in British politics.
But the opposite has been true as those on board the European gravy train have mounted one power grab after another. At a time of austerity throughout Europe they have expanded their already bloated budgets, pushing Britain’s disproportionate contributions even higher.
And despite not being part of the failing eurozone, British taxpayers have learned that under Brussels rules agreed to by Labour after it had lost the election they are liable to help bail out economies wrecked by the single currency. A payment of up to £10billion for Ireland is apparently just the start with speculators now starting to target the embattled economy of Portugal.
tomcatwarneOPOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
tomcatwarne: From now on, our energies will be directed to furthering the cause of those who believe Britain is Better Off Out.
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The famous and symbolic Crusader who adorns our masthead will become the figurehead of the struggle to repatriate British sovereignty from a political project that has comprehensively failed people right across Europe.
After far too many years as the victims of Brussels larceny, bullying, over-regulation and all-round interference, the time has come for the British people to win back their country and restore legitimacy and accountability to their political process. Following the debacle of the Lisbon Treaty – disgracefully imposed upon the public without the referendum they were promised by the three main political parties – many had expected matters European to take a lower profile in British politics.
But the opposite has been true as those on board the European gravy train have mounted one power grab after another. At a time of austerity throughout Europe they have expanded their already bloated budgets, pushing Britain’s disproportionate contributions even higher.
And despite not being part of the failing eurozone, British taxpayers have learned that under Brussels rules agreed to by Labour after it had lost the election they are liable to help bail out economies wrecked by the single currency. A payment of up to £10billion for Ireland is apparently just the start with speculators now starting to target the embattled economy of Portugal.
With 40 days until the EU referendum, new Sky Data polling suggests 29% of the population is still open to persuasion.
. The UK should have got out before now.
Eire should never been allowed to join, from the first day they were taking 1 million out of the kitty and at that time one pound was £1.25, many got very very rich very very fast!
Spain should never have been allowed in
Italy should not have been allowed in
Greece should never never been allowed in
Portugal should have never have been considered
Romania should have been walled off with Poland
Wine Lakes and Butter Mountains together with Irish Beef have been something of a mystery to most but these are included in all the other things that have not bothered the UK but have cost it money. The expanding of the EU has cost the UK so much money that it is for most prohibitive to live there, immigrants have been allowed in to suck the country's wealth and stamina to a point where almost all young people have not work because they are unemployable.
My company advertised for staff, we needed 10 young people, it was a live-in job, all found and around 1,000€ a month wage. We got a reply from a 17 year old that said it was too little. Where else would a kid of that age get that money for an unskilled job. We wrote off the UK and the British people and employ no one from there now.
galrads: Why would you need to give up your sovereignty in the first place?
The Tories started the treacherous rot in the 1980's as part of Thatcher's sabotage against everyone but the wealthy, and finally the Queen was forced in 2008 after Brown's secret covert antics and treason without the peoples permission, to make it official !!
And despite not being part of the failing eurozone, British taxpayers have learned that under Brussels rules agreed to by Labour after it had lost the election they are liable to help bail out economies wrecked by the single currency. A payment of up to £10billion for Ireland is apparently just the start with speculators now starting to target the embattled economy of Portugal.”’
This mention of Portugal is completely justified because the idiots voted for a Socialist party, in the first 2 months in power they lost 3 Billion euros, most of which was money that they said state workers were owed because the last PSD government cut wages, they were doing well but when you have a big communist influence you can expect no more. This also reinforces my post about then never being invited in.
MikeD12: The Tories started the treacherous rot in the 1980's as part of Thatcher's sabotage against everyone but the wealthy, and finally the Queen was forced in 2008 after Brown's secret covert antics and treason without the peoples permission, to make it official !!
Unreal that GB would do this and still able to print its own currency. I wonder if this would have happened had the global economy not gone sour in 2008.
I hope you guys leave and thus open the door to the EU collapse - enough of that monster.
I know you blame the East for costs, but believe me, many of us in the East would be perfectly happy if we were sovreign and without EU's "help" again.
The Soviet states of EU is a dictatorship, not democratic at all, extremely cost-ineffective, with huuuuge bureaucratic apparatus wasting time and money.
tomcatwarneOPOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
galrads: Unreal that GB would do this and still able to print its own currency. I wonder if this would have happened had the global economy not gone sour in 2008.
Capricorn143: I hope you guys leave and thus open the door to the EU collapse - enough of that monster.
I know you blame the East for costs, but believe me, many of us in the East would be perfectly happy if we were sovreign and without EU's "help" again.
The Soviet states of EU is a dictatorship, not democratic at all, extremely cost-ineffective, with huuuuge bureaucratic apparatus wasting time and money.
I am wondering though, how Brussels will react if people vote to leave, will it be like with the Ireland referendum (ok it wasn't about leaving, but still) - they had to repeat it till it was to the liking of EU.
tomcatwarneOPOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
Capricorn143: I hope you guys leave and thus open the door to the EU collapse - enough of that monster.
I know you blame the East for costs, but believe me, many of us in the East would be perfectly happy if we were sovreign and without EU's "help" again.
The Soviet states of EU is a dictatorship, not democratic at all, extremely cost-ineffective, with huuuuge bureaucratic apparatus wasting time and money.
Capricorn143: I hope you guys leave and thus open the door to the EU collapse - enough of that monster.
I know you blame the East for costs, but believe me, many of us in the East would be perfectly happy if we were sovreign and without EU's "help" again.
The Soviet states of EU is a dictatorship, not democratic at all, extremely cost-ineffective, with huuuuge bureaucratic apparatus wasting time and money.
. The EU is like a company, you get too big too soon and you head for problems. In this case the EU picked up sick companies and used it's money to bring them up to its standards.............it failed.
TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1,107 posts
yubba: With 40 days until the EU referendum, new Sky Data polling suggests 29% of the population is still open to persuasion.
. The UK should have got out before now.
Eire should never been allowed to join, from the first day they were taking 1 million out of the kitty and at that time one pound was £1.25, many got very very rich very very fast!
Spain should never have been allowed in
Italy should not have been allowed in
Greece should never never been allowed in
Portugal should have never have been considered
Romania should have been walled off with Poland
Wine Lakes and Butter Mountains together with Irish Beef have been something of a mystery to most but these are included in all the other things that have not bothered the UK but have cost it money. The expanding of the EU has cost the UK so much money that it is for most prohibitive to live there, immigrants have been allowed in to suck the country's wealth and stamina to a point where almost all young people have not work because they are unemployable.
My company advertised for staff, we needed 10 young people, it was a live-in job, all found and around 1,000€ a month wage. We got a reply from a 17 year old that said it was too little. Where else would a kid of that age get that money for an unskilled job. We wrote off the UK and the British people and employ no one from there now.
Importing workers is the simple and irresponsible solution to the problem of the aging population. Before they were an enabler of a decadent society but now it's become a dependence.
Without foreign workers we would have to find ways of getting much more from the man hours British people work. We'd need to be at the forefront in the ways things are done and at the end of the day it's a just a lot easier to import menial labourers willing to sleep six to a room.
tomcatwarneOPOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
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Without foreign workers we would have to find ways of getting much more from the man hours British people work. We'd need to be at the forefront in the ways things are done and at the end of the day it's a just a lot easier to import menial labourers willing to sleep six to a room.
Don't blame the British for this predicament, They have been let down by the government, the situation could have been handled better. The British workers weren't consulted until it was nearly too late.
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Today both sides will try to woo that group with renewed vigour. The Remain camp claims it's planning the biggest ever day of cross-party campaigning, while Brexiters are staging what they call a UK 'blitz'.
Britain Stronger In Europe says it is fielding over six thousand campaigners at around one thousand events across the country involving all four major political parties.
:: How Age And Income May Show You Back 'Brexit'
David Cameron will unveil a new poster, Jeremy Corbyn is expected to address a rally in London, the Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron will be campaigning in Cumbria and the Greens' Caroline Lucas will be in Brighton.
The Prime Minister will focus on the Treasury analysis of the cost of leaving, which is estimated by officials to be £4,300 per household each year.
David Cameron said: "This is a day unlike any other. Politicians of every stripe taking to the streets with the same message.
"We will see the effects of this referendum in our lives; the jobs we do, the opportunities our children have, the public services we rely on, the prices we pay, and the bills that land on our doormats."
The official campaign group Vote Leave is again relying on former Mayor Boris Johnston to carry the banner for change.