The Aussie election (108)

Jun 11, 2016 6:24 PM CST The Aussie election
mickyj777
mickyj777mickyj777adelaide, South Australia Australia9 Threads 239 Posts
Is it just me but when that rich right wing liberal PM tells Aussies who we should and shouldn't vote for yeah right.
Ok I was a labor voter it's in my blood voted for them for years .
I swapped voted greens having second thoughts
But when the PM says you can't vote for Nick what's his name makes me think I might change again . Cause I vote greens it's labor
Nick whats his name can take 22 percent of my state from the liberals and labour makes you think .
Yes I've thought Nick is a nut job in the past but when the big wigs say no that means yes
Jun 12, 2016 2:24 AM CST The Aussie election
arapaho
arapahoarapahobrisbane, Queensland Australia3 Threads 678 Posts
I pick the one's most unlikely to win and put labour and the libs last,
Jun 12, 2016 3:19 AM CST The Aussie election
far to close to China...but hasn't lost his listen...gets on with Key ok...dunno hasn't been there long enough for me to harshly judge
Jun 12, 2016 3:30 AM CST The Aussie election
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
robplum: far to close to China...but hasn't lost his listen...gets on with Key ok...dunno hasn't been there long enough for me to harshly judge
good reason to dump him if he gets on with Key . Little thing came out the other day , 1 in ten NZers either living in their cars , in car sheds or on the streets , just farking great aye
Jun 12, 2016 3:36 AM CST The Aussie election
yeah, wonder how many other soldiers like myself who haven't been lawfully discharged or paid there pay
Jun 12, 2016 3:42 AM CST The Aussie election
mickyj777
mickyj777mickyj777adelaide, South Australia Australia9 Threads 239 Posts
epirb: good reason to dump him if he gets on with Key . Little thing came out the other day , 1 in ten NZers either living in their cars , in car sheds or on the streets , just farking great aye


As much as I would never ever in the past vote for Nick he has the liberals worried he could get 22 percent of my states vote . Including the seat of Grey a very safe liberal seat been a very long time since they last lost it .
Seems Nicks party is the leader in the poll of that seat
Including a city with an iron works that state govt is going to put 50 million towards saving it and our lovely PM can not commit to saving all those jobs in a safe liberal seat .
Guess he's thinking giving this state all the new subs to build is help enough and they are made in a safe labor seat .
Just some thoughts
Jun 12, 2016 4:40 AM CST The Aussie election
Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has said it would be ‘premature’ for the federal government to follow the state’s lead by investing in Arrium.

Mr Turnbull said the Commonwealth was still waiting for the result of an independent report into the assistance requested from the company’s administrators.



Low interest loans of up to $100 million could be made available for Arrium.

This comes as a federal response to the state government’s announcement of a $50 million rescue package for the Whyalla Steelworks on Thursday.

The state requested that the federal government follow up the announcement with $100 million of their own to support Arrium.

But Member for Grey Rowan Ramsey said the Prime Minister is considering making low interest loans available, rather than a direct investment.

“The government remains open to consideration of further investment for infrastructure support to ensure the steel maker’s long term viability, depending on the advice of an independent report,” he said.


Independent Senator Nick Xenophon has said the ball is now in the federal government’s court following the state government’s $50 million injection to support a new owner of the Whyalla Steelworks.

Senator Xenophon echoed SA Premier Jay Weatherill’s call for a bipartisan commitment from both major parties for funding to support the long-term sustainability of Arrium.

“This would give an immediate boost in confidence to employees, local businesses and the community at large,” he said.

“Thursday’s announcement was welcome and follows a request by the administrator of Arrium who is working in the best interests of all stakeholders and pursuant to the Corporations Act.”


Arrium administrator Mark Mentha has described the state government’s $50 million investment in Arrium’s Whyalla operations as a ‘shot in the arm’.

Jun 12, 2016 4:56 AM CST The Aussie election
mickyj777
mickyj777mickyj777adelaide, South Australia Australia9 Threads 239 Posts
robplum: Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has said it would be ‘premature’ for the federal government to follow the state’s lead by investing in Arrium.

Mr Turnbull said the Commonwealth was still waiting for the result of an independent report into the assistance requested from the company’s administrators.
Low interest loans of up to $100 million could be made available for Arrium.

This comes as a federal response to the state government’s announcement of a $50 million rescue package for the Whyalla Steelworks on Thursday.

The state requested that the federal government follow up the announcement with $100 million of their own to support Arrium.


But Member for Grey Rowan Ramsey said the Prime Minister is considering making low interest loans available, rather than a direct investment.

“The government remains open to consideration of further investment for infrastructure support to ensure the steel maker’s long term viability, depending on the advice of an independent report,” he said.Independent Senator Nick Xenophon has said the ball is now in the federal government’s court following the state government’s $50 million injection to support a new owner of the Whyalla Steelworks.

Senator Xenophon echoed SA Premier Jay Weatherill’s call for a bipartisan commitment from both major parties for funding to support the long-term sustainability of Arrium.

“This would give an immediate boost in confidence to employees, local businesses and the community at large,” he said.

“Thursday’s announcement was welcome and follows a request by the administrator of Arrium who is working in the best interests of all stakeholders and pursuant to the Corporations Act.”Arrium administrator Mark Mentha has described the state government’s $50 million investment in Arrium’s Whyalla operations as a ‘shot in the arm’.



Guess we will learn if they win the election
Jun 15, 2016 5:48 AM CST The Aussie election
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
4 years ago I was in Iron Knob and stopped in the only local hotel still pen. Publican talked about Iron Knob reopening because the early days ad only extracted #1 grade iron ore but so much #2 grade was still available, especially when compared to #4 grade available world wide.

Last month I drove by Iron Monarch which was supposedly depleted many years ago, it is now very active.

The Eyre Peninsular (back of Whyalla) produces the richest seams of iron ore in the world.

4 years ago I was eld up on the Sturt Highway heading to Coober Pedy while they were undertaking roadworks for the new iron ore mine.

Lang Hancock got $1 per ton for his iron ore discoveries. Gina R inherited this little amount. Who gets the money from these "new" developments?
Jun 15, 2016 11:05 AM CST The Aussie election
spartan42
spartan42spartan42Sydney, New South Wales Australia3 Posts
mickyj777: Is it just me but when that rich right wing liberal PM tells Aussies who we should and shouldn't vote for yeah right.
Ok I was a labor voter it's in my blood voted for them for years .
I swapped voted greens having second thoughts
But when the PM says you can't vote for Nick what's his name makes me think I might change again . Cause I vote greens it's labor
Nick whats his name can take 22 percent of my state from the liberals and labour makes you think .
Yes I've thought Nick is a nut job in the past but when the big wigs say no that means yes


According to your logical factor of who to vote for the clear winner should be "Australia first" party. They are the ones EVERY party is telling us not to vote for !
Jun 15, 2016 7:14 PM CST The Aussie election
mickyj777
mickyj777mickyj777adelaide, South Australia Australia9 Threads 239 Posts
spartan42: According to your logical factor of who to vote for the clear winner should be "Australia first" party. They are the ones EVERY party is telling us not to vote for !


Yep ok
But in south Australia the prime minister is urging us not to vote for Nicks Party
Is he not saying anything in your city or state
Jun 15, 2016 10:06 PM CST The Aussie election
mickyj777
mickyj777mickyj777adelaide, South Australia Australia9 Threads 239 Posts
spartan42: According to your logical factor of who to vote for the clear winner should be "Australia first" party. They are the ones EVERY party is telling us not to vote for !


I think you living in Sydney you need to know there is more to Australia than Sydney or Melbourne .
Out in the rest of country things are going on
South Australia
1 liberal seat of Grey it's a seat the Libs can not loose
Up steps Xenophon goes from a single person to a party . Grey a safe liberal seat half the size of south Australia suddenly liberals look like loosing it .
2 south Australia stands to be a state that 22 percent of the vote will go to the Xenophon party
3 the prime minster is telling south Australia not to vote for Xenophon party
4 one of the big parties liberal or labor have changed the colour of their signs to match Xenophon parties signs . Is someone running scared .

Let's face it the liberals don't want independent politicians because if the liberals get those seats they control the government and the country .

But hey what would I know I'm a low paid worker whose family been here for centuries
And the aboriginal part of me been here longer
Jun 17, 2016 6:24 AM CST The Aussie election
mickyj777
mickyj777mickyj777adelaide, South Australia Australia9 Threads 239 Posts
I should add in I forgot after dec 21 2015
There was no more wages
I had been paid 1 week sick leave 1 week annual leave 1 week long service leave and what ever Rostered days off leave . Then four pay packets of zero were the last I got and I had an hour something left Of long service leave that went down 79 cents every week for four weeks that 79cents went into my super .
I could not get Centrelink money as my employers insurer refused to say yes or no to work cover they lied to my solicitor twice .
So by Mid Feb I could get incapacitated benefits .
Yet those to companies are worse off for me almost dying from a brain injury .

Now any government that would kick those companies in the butt I'd vote for .
Jun 17, 2016 5:57 PM CST The Aussie election
epirb: good reason to dump him if he gets on with Key . Little thing came out the other day , 1 in ten NZers either living in their cars , in car sheds or on the streets , just farking great aye

you might enjoy checking out how dairy calves are living in China, they are probably better off than NZ homeless people

little introduction

China Huishan Dairy Holdings Company Limited plans to invest up to CNY2.5 billion to build a new dairy base in Yancheng, Jiangsu province.

Modern Dairy, was listed on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange in 2010, two years after KKR and CDH first invested in the company. Its herd includes around 180,000 dairy cows across 22 farms which produce over 700,000 tons of raw milk per year.


Yang Kai, Chairman of China Huishan Dairy Holdings Co., had an idea.

He wanted to buy back more stock, presumably to drive up the value of his 74% stake in the Chinese dairy farm operator, but the balance sheet was already weighed down with CNY10.4 billion in loans from banks.

So what did Yang do? Why, instead of borrowing more money to finance the buybacks (which helped drive shares up by some 72% since last summer), he sold 50,000 cows to one Guangdong Yuexin Finance Lease Co. for CNY1 billion.



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This photo by George Steinmetz, posted on National Geographic’s Instagram, shows Bengbu Dairy in Anhui Province, China, a farm that is home to 39,000 Holstein cows. These hutches are where newborn cows live – checked twice daily by uniformed workers who wear hairnets and face masks because “hygiene is the top priority.”

http://www.onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/massive-dairy-farm-proves-the-fallacy-of-happy-cows/
Jun 18, 2016 2:39 AM CST The Aussie election
China is also trying to streamline its dairy industry, which has many small and medium enterprises, which officials would like to see become three to five major operations.

Modern Dairy, with 40,000 head of cattle, is currently the largest operation in China,
China is building a 100,000-cow dairy farm to supply Russia with milk, but one expert doubts it will end up that big

Closer to here

Signalling increased community concern, local residents in Gippsland recently rose up to defeat a proposed expansion of a dairy mega factory farm in the region, where 1,000 cows would have been kept largely indoors and their milk exported.

(The company applying for expansion) has as its showpiece the biggest farm in east China ... There, more than 5000 cows — some imported from Australia — are housed in large barns, milked three times a day ... and fed on alfalfa hay imported from the US or oaten hay and vetch from Australia...



China's mega-farm… for 100,000 cows: World's biggest dairy being built to supply Russian demand after Moscow boycotted EU exports

The enormous farm in Mudanjiang City will have 60,000 more cows than the current biggest farm, also in China.

Jun 18, 2016 4:15 AM CST The Aussie election
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
robplum: China is also trying to streamline its dairy industry, which has many small and medium enterprises, which officials would like to see become three to five major operations.

Modern Dairy, with 40,000 head of cattle, is currently the largest operation in China,
China is building a 100,000-cow dairy farm to supply Russia with milk, but one expert doubts it will end up that big

Closer to here

Signalling increased community concern, local residents in Gippsland recently rose up to defeat a proposed expansion of a dairy mega factory farm in the region, where 1,000 cows would have been kept largely indoors and their milk exported.

(The company applying for expansion) has as its showpiece the biggest farm in east China ... There, more than 5000 cows — some imported from Australia — are housed in large barns, milked three times a day ... and fed on alfalfa hay imported from the US or oaten hay and vetch from Australia...



China's mega-farm… for 100,000 cows: World's biggest dairy being built to supply Russian demand after Moscow boycotted EU exports

The enormous farm in Mudanjiang City will have 60,000 more cows than the current biggest farm, also in China.

a lot of eggs in one basket having 100000 cows in one place , can't see why Russia does not build its own dairy industry .
Jun 18, 2016 4:51 AM CST The Aussie election
Russia does have dairy farms



Russian dairy farms are undergoing huge development

WELL
Belgorod is a region which is about 600km or two hours south of Moscow, almost on the Ukrainian border. Accompanied by Enterprise Ireland representatives, I visited a Russian grain and milk company called Greendale. Greendale Milking Company operates 11 dairy farms, with 7,500 milking cows farming almost 12,000ha. It has 1,500 employees with a turnover of 1.8 billion rubles (RUB), or €36m.



meanwhile next door / you might recall Europe imposed sanctions on Russia over Ukraines in direct consequence of West Ukraine directing MH17 outside safe corridor straight to easy Ukraine missile system

Under impact from the Russian embargo, reducing procurement prices for Latvian dairy producers cause losses worth EUR 7 – 9 million every month. With that, it is likely that many dairy farms will be forced to close down by the end of 2014, as reported by Chairman of Latvian Rural Advisory and Training Centre Martinš Cimermanis.

Jun 18, 2016 5:09 AM CST The Aussie election
PHOTO GALLERY page



Includes:

DAIRY COMPLEX FOR 1200 HEADS OF CATTLE IN THE VILLAGE OF TAT. KANADEY, KUZNETSK DISTRICT, PENZA REGION.

DAIRY COMPLEX FOR 4600 HEADS IN THE VILLAGE ARSHINOVKA, NIZHELOMOVSKIY AREA OF THE PENZA REGION

COMMERCIAL DAIRY COMPLEX FOR 3600 HEADS OF CATTLE IN THE VILLAGE OF POTODEEVO, NAROVCHAT DISTRICT, PENZA REGION.



Russia has begun building new dairy farms and milk processing, worth almost $3 billion, as it continues to lock out western food.



Dairy PRODUCTION
Currently, the “Russian Farms” group has realized the following projects in dairy cattle husbandry:

MOSCOW REGION

Jun 18, 2016 3:13 PM CST The Aussie election
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
robplum: Russia does have dairy farms



Russian dairy farms are undergoing huge development

WELL
Belgorod is a region which is about 600km or two hours south of Moscow, almost on the Ukrainian border. Accompanied by Enterprise Ireland representatives, I visited a Russian grain and milk company called Greendale. Greendale Milking Company operates 11 dairy farms, with 7,500 milking cows farming almost 12,000ha. It has 1,500 employees with a turnover of 1.8 billion rubles (RUB), or €36m.
meanwhile next door / you might recall Europe imposed sanctions on Russia over Ukraines in direct consequence of West Ukraine directing MH17 outside safe corridor straight to easy Ukraine missile system

Under impact from the Russian embargo, reducing procurement prices for Latvian dairy producers cause losses worth EUR 7 – 9 million every month. With that, it is likely that many dairy farms will be forced to close down by the end of 2014, as reported by Chairman of Latvian Rural Advisory and Training Centre Martinš Cimermanis.

Good to see they are doing their own thing . NZ dairy farmers have undoubtedly been affected by the sanction's .Peters is requesting that trade with Russia should take place inspite of Europe's sanction's . EU has never been our friend as far as trade goes , so trading with Russia should take place .
Jun 18, 2016 6:21 PM CST The Aussie election
yep the Canadians gave it to them, well the yanks blamed canadian cow for tat hehehe
bit like the chinese chicken flu the russians stopped its spread right about where russian infested islam ended
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